TimT999: Wow. I'm surprised that DP Review made such an amateur mistake. The review compared the Zeiss' image quality against the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8. Canon has two 50mm lenses that are considered far better than the 50mm 1.8 -- the f 1.4 and f 1.2. So why use the 1.8 -- at $100 it's the cheapest lens Canon sells.
It's true that the Zeiss is a 1.8. But anyone who is a pro shooter would be looking at Canon's 1.4 or 1.2. So DP should have used a Canon lens of comparable value and cost and then dialing one of those lenses up to 1.8 to do an apples to apples comparison.
Canon's 50/1.4 is a true dog. There's no way around that.
itzhak_: Settle down people. The article is not about photography in general, it is about the effect of "Point-and-Shoot" photography on the recording of memories. It even says so right there in the title.
The author concludes that people should pay MORE attention when they photograph (i.e. study the object, photograph details, and so on), rather than just taking a quick snapshot and move on. Does anyone in here really dispute this?
I think it also "suggests" what many photographers know experientially - the camera sometimes prevents you from truly absorbing the experience.
danmar: Why is it that in the past 10 or so years almost every study I've read about has told us something we already knew? I hope these people don't get paid. :-)
Everyone knows everything. Few people can prove or demonstrate something.
Another installation/version of a less-than-excellent sensor.
This is nikon begging for your money. Not asking but begging.
liquid stereo: Deck chairs on the titanic...
Oly/Pana/Fuji/Sony: Here are different/better offerings — ergo, sensor size, solution size, high ISO performance, etc. — at a lower price.
Nikon: Here's one of our cams — same features, in an angled body — for the same (high) price.
Canon: What's all this then?
Canon... Their strengths are their lenses, professional services, dealer network and market entrenchment.
Fanboys, its about "bank" and rate of profit, or the derivative. Canon's derivatives are not good. Worse still, Canon has poor sensor tech. I love my 7D and the fantastic L lenses. They have a long time to sleep. Hopefully they'll wake up before their decreasing profits affect their market position. But this is about cameras and not "business" nonsense.
In terms of cameras, the advances seem to be coming not from Nikon nor from Canon.
Shamael: What makes me smile is that eternal comment, "great camera" while all we know is 39 focus point and 1/4000 second, no video. Now, what is there so "great". With those 3 features alone, it is an entry level FF with retro look. All I wait for is the price.
Here's what you've been waiting for - price = high :)
Deck chairs on the titanic...
leisurefix: The bickering and criticism by such a large number of people here is just crass and depressing. I am not particularly philanthropic, but I will defend those that are. These two designers have given up a huge amount of their time to curate a charity auction. Leica has collaborated with them to create one camera for inclusion in that auction. They should all be applauded for their willingness to help a good cause. The functionality, usability, or whatever of the camera is very much secondary to the creation of an object that all people involved hope will sell for as much money as possible (for the good of the charity).
As a design object, I find this thing to be hideous. What's wrong with saying that?
This has nothing to do with Apple. Its about those who subscribe to form over function. And really principle over form or function.
Why is it here on DPR? Are we being goaded into bidding on the object? Its because its news. Surely we can offer opinion on news.
Jony Ive should give back all his awards. The guy is a design goofball.
First IOS 7 and now the POS M.
He really did need Steve Jobs to say "no, that's a turd."
liquid stereo: I love the fact that this article comes at the same time as the Lytro CEO announcing layoffs et al.
Sony is still flinging dung at the walls to see what sticks. This is going to bounce right off the wall and hit them in the face.FAILURE.
They're the same in that they're sophisticated solutions to problems no one had.
Mark Schretlen: Hmm ... I wonder if they will make a super-dorky iPad version.
APS-C & iPad means the ultiimate view camera :)
I love the fact that this article comes at the same time as the Lytro CEO announcing layoffs et al.
camera enthusiasts... never before has so many people argued so strongly about so little.
as alan said, they're r'tards.
Frank_BR: No compromises… except for high price, great weight and size, and lacking of autofocus and image stabilization.
If they designed a so big lens for a camera with 36 MP, I wonder what will be the size and weight of a Zeiss lens for the 100 MP cameras that will come to the market in the next few years.
@Frank_BR, your logic is problematic.
ppastoris: For me quite the opposite experience. Except for social occasions X100 gathers dust while 5D2 with a collection of nice lenses gets the most use. You care less about the weight of DSLR kit when you see the photos.
This presumes you cannot get the same results — optical/imaging as well as shooting-pleasure — with a small solution. Other than sports & wildlife, the small cams are largely superior. The caveats are that the focal length must work for you and that the ergonomics are good.
bseng: A camera that shoots at only one focal length? No thanks.
Beyond foolish is your reply.
chj: I've seen more articles than good photos from this guy.
Well he's doing a damn good job. He's a writer.
Harry S: It's hard to complain when they keep releasing genuinely useful/noticeable firmware upgrades, but surely minimum shutter speed in AutoISO is a very easy fix?!