Charlie Jin: So, instead of built-in flash, we get GPS.I would like to get both ;-) but if I have to choose either one of them... I'm not sure.... Perhaps I would choose a built-in flash that can control remote flashes - because if I really need GPS I always carry my smart phone which has a good selection of apps that can do that. But I don't carry flashes all the time. What would be your choice?
Maybe you don't know how to find photos of cats taken using iPhone 4. Here we go... https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=iphone4%20cats Again, don't blame the camera, Carlos. There are so many people who take wonderful photos of their cats using the lesser hardware (iPhone 4) than yours, and yet you are complaining about ISO !
Yes, I do have many pictures of cats, dogs, and other animals taken with my smartphones, which were wonderful. I could post them just for you, but that is not necessary. Go to flikr and you will find probably millions of them.
And you mentioned "not have time for the DSLR grab and set". And that is exactly the point for the builtin flash. I mean, don't we all have so many moments when we just grabbed the DSLR but no the flash? I didn't say either that builtin flash was so important.My initial proposal was if we have a choice of choosing between the two - builtin-in flash and built-in GPS, I would choose built-in flash for the reasons I explained so far. But you two are just attacking by saying that having built-in flash is unprofessional and people who want built-in flash would rather use cell-phone camera.
BTW, ISO does not capture good moments/pictures. Artistic sense does. Browse flickr, and learn something there, Carlos.
From your comments, it is apparent that none of you two have ever used DSLR/GPS apps that interacts with DSLRs. Now, just GPS part - with smartphones, you can always have GPS data (as long as you are run-in the GPS app in your smartphone, which you will). Now, let's say you are using only the built-in GPS, not the smartphone. Then when you turn on the camera, you have to wait until GPS is connected just to get the GPS data. Maybe, some of you who take pictures in some preset environment (like models in a studio), this doesn't matter (but then why do you need GPS data at all in this case) . But for others - esp street photographers and others, it's not acceptable.
Among the pictures taken with my smartphones, the ones from my old iPhone 4 were the best. Later, I moved up to Samsung Note 2 and now iPhone 6 Plus, but the picture qualities didn't improve at all. Don't blame the tools or camera, Carlos.
That argument is not mine. It's Carlos. Read what he wrote. Tom Goodman who is featured in dpreview today said that he is using Nikon D750 which is "unprofessional" according to you just because it has a builtin flash. However, I would rather trust many such professionals like Goodman, not you or Carlos who proves that they themselves should use cellphone cameras and don't bother to use DSLR.
I don't know your point. Not having a built-in GPS would be then should be lesser than the built-in flash. The point is then what would be the choice among the two ? In emergency and for convenience I think that flash is better, since GPS can be always achieved using smart phones which most people always carry these days. I don't understand your point, Carlos.
Well, to you Nikon D810 looks like an entry level... And I doubt that the new Pentax full frame would be better than D810. To me, if someone is thinking about seriously using the builtin GPS on a TOP FF DSLR, then that someone should consider using a cell phone camera instead.One real advantage of having a built in flash is that you can use it as a remote flash controller in addition to at the same time using the built-in flash with diffuser or bouncing (with some accessaries). This produces really great results without putting another expensive remote controller on the camera (which you also have to carry - and sometimes lose !).
Just wondering... How come 78% is gold awarded (ex Canon SL1) and 81% is silver awarded? What is the key component that separates gold and silver ?
Nikon D800's have the flash. Not many really need astrotracer. And we are comparing the ones that have flashes, if you don't understand the subject matter. Whenever Nikon D800's is worse/better than Canon 5D's is an another matter. Maybe only you, in which case you may purchase a separate GPS. For me, I never need it (astrotracer). I am quite happy with smart phone's GPS apps. As a matter of fact, I think it's better and convinient.
How about Canon 7D level built-in flash then?I also doubt that the built-in GPS would be that professional either. Besides, smartphone apps can do variety of things and it's continuously evolving. But the built-in hardware rarely does.
So, instead of built-in flash, we get GPS.I would like to get both ;-) but if I have to choose either one of them... I'm not sure.... Perhaps I would choose a built-in flash that can control remote flashes - because if I really need GPS I always carry my smart phone which has a good selection of apps that can do that. But I don't carry flashes all the time. What would be your choice?
dprived prev: i know many people here or elsewhere will not like what i'm going to say but i'm saying it anyway:
please listen to my demand here as a serious semi-pro photographer who doesn't care much about large size prints but does care so much about less noise!
take the example from Nikon D4 please:
no more than 16 or 18 (or 24 at the most) mega pixels on this camera's sensor! (unless you do really have a great sensor that can handle more pixels comfortably!?)
don't sacrifice professional noiseless image *quality* for prosumer hyper *quantity* craze please!
I think that the main reason why Pentax came up with high resolution instead of low noise and high DR is that the new FF camera does not have a good selection of modern "digital" full frame lenses. They would expect that the users will already have or purchase APS/C pentax lenses instead, in which case the crop mode gets around 16~18MP.Imagine that you get a very nice 16MP sensor. Then the crop mode will get only 8MP, which does not really make sense these days - and then your Pentax digital lenses become useless and people won't purchase them. Will have to wait long years for Pentax to come up with the more new FF digital lenses. In my case, I also have a Pentax Fish-eye lens, which I will definitely use if I buy this new FF. And I don't want to end up with only 8MP image in crop mode.
nir-vana: Hope to see this lens with native Sony FE mount.
I don't see how that can ever happen. It requires lens re-design, which means it's a different lens. It should be either SLR lens or mirrorless lens.
ThatCamFan: Sadly when I used to be a pentax user this would excite me, but sadly they are TEN YEARS to late.
Cane, you can disappear from here to practice yourself what you just said ;-)
Besides, it is not Pentax any more. It is Richo.After 5 years later, it may be Shaomi.
I always bragged about the quality of the result from my iPhone 6Plus, and one day, my younger brother took a picture of her daughter in a boat at night (it was a family gathering) with his G4. The portrait picture from the G4 really blowed my mind. I wish I could share it here...
What is POV ? which means I don't need it...
Wow Great~! Dead mosquitos and beetles too :-)
Canon, I will buy 15-85mm F2.8-4.0 if it is under $1,200(and if the image quality is as good as the original one).
nikkornikon: Wow...DP is going to review a Leica? What's Wrong with DP.
It's only a "Imression" review. The real review will be on Apr 1, next year ;-)