spontaneousservices: If it's really for "manual everything" photographers, where's the dedicated ISO wheel? Still the old film mindset, amazing, really. So many years after film disappeared from the camera body, changing ISO is still more involved than changing shutter speed or aperture. But what would really make me buy such a camera (more than flip screen or ISO wheel) is a fixed 50mm equivalent lens. Sigh. Maybe one day...
I didnt say it's hard: push button, look at screen, dial wheel, push button again. Not hard but a pain in the neck. I'd like a dedicated wheel for something I use many, many times a day.
The add-on lens partly blocks the view through the finder and anyway is a huge piece of look-at-me-having-a-cool-camera, totally negating the discreetness of the X100. But yes it's there.
km25: Oh I'll keep going at it, OIS and a short zoom, a 24/28-7-/80 equl. zoom of F2.8 or maybe even better. Would be a great camera, not replace, but augment the X100, an X100Z.
Optical & fysical laws stand in the way of combining that with small size.
If it's really for "manual everything" photographers, where's the dedicated ISO wheel? Still the old film mindset, amazing, really. So many years after film disappeared from the camera body, changing ISO is still more involved than changing shutter speed or aperture. But what would really make me buy such a camera (more than flip screen or ISO wheel) is a fixed 50mm equivalent lens. Sigh. Maybe one day...
ecube: I wonder if these lenses could be used in Nikon bodies. Several years ago, Fuji DSLR professional bodies has the Nikon mount. Would there be someone reading this know if this is still true?
well not only are those mirrorless they are mount-less: their lenses are fixed, not-changeable. Maybe a wild idea to read the articles on those cameras?
not likely - flange to sensor distance of a mirrorless is much smaller than in dslr's such as Nikon's. The other way around, yes.
spontaneousservices: "raw [...] so you don't need to worry about white balance" (picture 5)
Don't know how other people do this but in my experience noise can make it very difficult to lift shadow parts when WB was recorded badly at the moment of capture.
Anyway. The M60 must have started as a practical joke.
@BJN - this is puzzling. I remember doing quite some tests, Raw, Lightroom, Canon 5d, a dusk landscape with same exposure but different WB settings, and clearly saw difference in flexibility of darker parts.
spontaneousservices: so why do some people actually prefer a camera without flip screen? Don't they appreciate the extra possibilities?
Talking about myopic statements. The whole idea of having different cameras (or different film formats) is that their SPECS are different. That's what I meant with it's all about the specs - it's not about the brand. It's what you want a camera to do and how well it'll do exactly that. If Fuji think it's a good idea to put a flip screen on the x30 and x-t1, an educated guess would be that an x100-like camera with the same wont be far off. To speculate at some "philosophy" behind their not having done so yet reeks of fanboyism.Plus, as pointed out before, a flip screen is neither a bell nor a whistle. As a complement to a VF, it allows you to take pictures you can't take otherwise.
"raw [...] so you don't need to worry about white balance" (picture 5)
edit suggestion at picture #5: a 90 degrees tilted viewfinder isn't exactly for "waist-level composition". Unless you have your waist at chin height?
@DIGITAL - don't know about you but when I'm in the market for a camera, "heritage" means nothing to me. Nada. Sure, the Fuji brand has a very nice ring to it, something completely, totally lacking in Sony or Samsung - but in the end its about the specs. (and I like 90% of the X100t specs) I don't think Fuji have a philosophy behind omitting a flip screen, it's just that they can't pull it off in a rugged enough manner - not yet.
@Alex, the question is about adding a flip screen to a camera with viewfinder - an and / and proposition, not either/ or. In bright sunlight nothing replaces a good VF (well, hiding under a black cloth maybe LOL)
rjx summed up the pros of the flip screen nicely. Especially waist-level perspective for candids is something i miss dearly since my Sony Nex5n died on me.
Which brings the cons... seem to be listed mainly as added bulk, and durability. As to bulk, Fuji should take a lessen from the master-squeezers at Sony.
As to durability, point taken. My Sony Nex5n did die on me after 2 years of daily abuse, and its lack of weather sealing may well have been the cause, if not the outright flimsy attachment of the EVF. I would surely expect a future Fuji X100-"flip" to be as rugged as the present ones. If engineers can drop a lander on a comet, a tough articulated screen should be doable too.
So you agree the no-flip-screen-thing is a fashion statement? How could you be offended otherwise?
Charlieangel: If this had a 50mm (equiv) lens, I would definitely upgrade from my X100S.
This is a nice, worthy improvement, and Fuji should be praised for improving this camera. But I don't see how this upgrade provides a compelling reason to buy for anyone, unless they were already planning on buying an X100S
Yes, a 50mm equivalent would be fantastic. @Joed, this has nothing to do with DOF. Just with field of view. 35mm equivalent is boring, IMO. With 50mm equivalent you're forced to make choices.
The adapter blocks your view in the optical finder and a real 50mm equivalent lens will always be better.
JaimeA: Reading the specifications we found out that this camera has NO image stabilization. Totally nuts if you like closeups, interior and night shots.
come on... 35mm equivalent and you need IS?
Mike FL: Fuji may be able to find a convenient reason for X100T having no any IS.
At same time, Fuji highlights its Camera having IS as a selling point: "The built-in OIS (optical image stabilization) mechanism delivers an image stabilizing effect equivalent to 3.0-stop and is extremely effective in preventing blurring caused by camera shake or subject movement.". Oh, yes: "... or subject movement".
BTW. 3.0-stop is very much today's smart phone OIS standard. Oly and Pana can do much better.
do you need IS on a 35mm equivalent lens? Sounds like some medical condition...
I'd buy a 50mm equivalent X100-like camera. 35mm equivalent, not interested. A very uninspiring focal length IMO.
so why do some people actually prefer a camera without flip screen? Don't they appreciate the extra possibilities?
arhmatic: Time for a survey?Tilt Screen? Yes/No?
spontaneousservices: No articulated screen? Wouldn't a sport or wildlife photographer like to have a ground-level perspective once in a while? We get teh same camera as 7 years ago but with even better sensor, well well what a surprise :-(
Whatever floats your boat, man. But with all due respect you sound a bit like defending typewriters in favour of computers.
Facts are 1) it's a hugely effective feature, available on many cameras but not on the one I - and many others - want it to be, and 2) it reflects very poorly on Canon's engineering capabilities that they can't put it in this camera - especially as it they can do so in, say, the 70d.