G10Rebel: Probably will steal a Braun design... like usual
It's the looking over the shoulder to copy that's the issue. When you climb, there's at least some effort of your own.
I don't think I'll try this given the warning. I like using conventional cameras and I'd hate to think I'll never be able to use one again!
Stephen123: The amount of hostility here toward a fundraiser for Reporters without Borders is surprising.
I love how you use "us" like it includes you. Well stolen.
Anyone posting comments on a camera site like DPReview calling Apple's products "so expensive" is being disingenuous.
Klarno: Android fanboys are so cute whenever anything even peripherally to do with Apple is mentioned.
Prest is right, some of them use still use Symbian.
nekrosoft13: Will have non-removable battery, memory will be non-removable, will use a totally different unique plug, $50 adapter will be available. If held incorrectly will fail to work, in that case a case will be required. Some times will burn on people pocket. And will be manufactured in factory were people comit suicides. Will cost 2+ times more then normal product.
That sounds like a typical apple product.
"There are a few others like me"
Thank heaven for small mercies, there's only a few like you.
calmwaters: A lot of people are whining about a camera they know nothing about. I have the XZ-1 and it is a fantastic camera and deserved all the acculades it received at the beginning of 2011. The XZ-2 is an improvement with a better lens cap, better video, focus ring, battery and some small adjustments. The sensor is the same(wait for a more in depth review). The reason why this camera is so much like the previous one is because they got so much right the first time. Until you have used this camera or the XZ-1 you don't really know what you are talking about. Bigger sensor means bigger lens which means bigger camera. Can't be avoided.
Agree until you start looking at video. The XZ-1's video was pathetic. Hopefully that is fixed in the XZ-2.
calmwaters: What a lot of people don't get with this camera is the image quality. There are no cameras in this class with as bright and fast a lens as the Zuiko used on both the XZ-1 and XZ-2. I searched and compared long and hard for a camera in this price range, for this image quality and compactness. The Canon G-12 was the closest but was lacking where the XZ-1 wasn't.
Err, the LX7 has a f1.4-f2.3 lens, and is basically the same size as this camera. You are right that it isn't in this price range though, it's cheaper.
zodiacfml: This is everything I want but the sensor! The lens is huge. I'm sure it could accept a one inch sensor and compromise on maximum aperture or some vignetting wide open. I was hoping a larger sensor to compete against the Sony.
Also, the XZ-1 is pocketable, just (I know, I have one). This is not.
RX100 has usable ISO6400, XZ-1 has usable ISO1600. XZ-2 will be closer to XZ-1 rather RX100. There's your tele two stop lens advantage gone in low light.
mosc: Soo many comments about f2.5 being better than f4.9 comparing this to an RX100 at tele. Wow, do the math!
This camera is f11.8 equivalent at 112. The Sony is f13.4 at 100. Complain all you want about it but at least do the math correctly people.
or realize the real difference here is that one has a hot shoe, an option for an externa viewfinder, and is intended as a general purpose camera where the other is a carry anywhere compact designed for indoor shooting without an external flash at wide. The user who picks the Olympus and uses it without anything in the hot shoe probably made the wrong purchasing decision. Similarly, the user who never brings the sony with him because it doesn't have a viewfinder or external flash probably should have gotten the olympus.
"So at 90 mm the f/2.3 of the lx7 or xz2 is big advantage over the approx f/4.5 of the rx100."
Not the if high ISO of the XZ-2 is anything like the XZ-1. It'll be interesting to see how many stops advantage the RX100 has, and whether that lens makes up for it.
Francis Carver: Re. 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 powered zoom:
"It features a dual-function ring that controls both power zoom and manual focus, depending on the camera’s focus mode. With the camera set to AF the control ring adjusts smooth, high-speed zoom with small hand movements. With the camera in MF mode, the ring controls manual focus."
Now, that's what I call a smart zoom lens. When you are focusing manually, you cannot zoom at all. It's either zooming. Of focusing, your choice. Just not both at the same time, you see.
Pretty good for your non-zooming video shots.
I dearly love Sony, and I very much like their NEX cameras. But they also have the Alpha DSLTs, and those and the Sony/Zeiss and 3rd party lenses for them are so much better overall, it's not even funny. :-)
"When you are focusing manually, you cannot zoom at all"
Of course you can, with the zoom switch. Read before trolling?
mpgxsvcd: Everyone will claim that Sony will dominate the market after today. Then others will claim that Nikon will dominate after tomorrow. Then others will claim Panasonic and Olympus(m4/3s) will dominate after Monday.
The truth is that this next week will absolutely change the camera market forever. However, all 4 of those companies will probably keep similar market shares to what they had before. The difference will be that the consumers now have 4 very complete solutions from these different companies. Each option has it strengths and weaknesses but all of them can produce wonderful pictures and videos in capable hands.
How dare you, mpgxsvcd. DPR is NOT a place for positivity and being sensible. Go not troll somewhere else.
meanwhile: Wondering, does this become a 35mm-ish equivalent T-S lens when put onto a APS-C crop camera, or it is more complicated than that because it's a T-S lens (that is, is there any loss of functionality)?
Wondering, does this become a 35mm-ish equivalent T-S lens when put onto a APS-C crop camera, or it is more complicated than that because it's a T-S lens (that is, is there any loss of functionality)?
mandophoto: Yes, an affordable TS lens would be nice, but not only does it need to be optically sound, it also needs to be mechanically well made. I hope enough copies are reviewed so that any mechanical QC issues are revealed.
meanwhile: So many people claim that xyz does this already for free, or ABC has this built-in and is as good. How about a shootout DPR?
Or perhaps make it a public shootout? Put up a few RAWs with difficult distortion issues, and let people submit their best edit and documented workflow.
So many people claim that xyz does this already for free, or ABC has this built-in and is as good. How about a shootout DPR?
vFunct: Sweet! I still have my hand-crank 8x10 polaroid film processor & view camera.. just need to buy back some lenses.
PROTIP: This is one of the few techniques one can use to create photos without any electricity. Large-format lenses have spring shutters, and the Polaroid film can be processed by hand-cranking!
You'll be ready for the zombie apocalypse.