Eleson: One thing that become apparent is that the jpeg engine in A7s i really, really good. Take a look at ISO 102400 and compare to Df (or anything).
I can clearly see why some say "you need to shoot RAW".But then again, show a RAW picture that beats the out-of-camera jpeg from a7s @ redicilously high ISO's....
Agreed, although I'm not sure I'd say more than double is "somewhat" more expensive.
Dianoda: Judging from these samples, it's really quite impressive how far we've come in the past 10-20 years of digital cameras. This level of imaging fits in your pocket, with a lens that covers a very useful range, and has a viewfinder.
I had an RX100 Mrk I, loved the pocketability and just about everything else, only complaints were the somewhat detached shooting experience and the corners at wide angle - but this new lens is noticeably better at wide angle, and I think the EVF will go a long way when it comes to an improved shooting experience. Wish the battery life was projected to be a bit better, but I might just pick one up anyways.
If you travelled back 40 years though they'd be saying how much better their optical viewfinder is, how much more DR they were getting from their film, and talking about how their batteries lasted years!
photo perzon: Brianj they look good to me. Does the rx100 seem better to you?
The default settings of any camera are just that - the default. Any camera I have ever had, I've needed to spend a few minutes when I first got it to adjust it's JPEG settings to how I like them - or at least I did when I shot JPEG. Now I just make an import setting or preset for Aperture/Optics Pro, and that gets automatically applied on import.
The majority of people who say RAW is too much work or takes longer than JPEG usually either haven't had the right tools, haven't adjusted their workflow, or have such a huge volume of images that any number of extra seconds per image (whether automated or not) is unacceptable.
For me, RAW is easier, and quicker, than JPEG - with better results. The latitude for extra processing is also there, but it's not *necessary*.
Boky: It is puzzling, really. I get more pleasing photos with my S90. The RX100 series is way too big to compete in size. I tried RX100 I and returned it immediately due to cold cast over all the photos it produced + not to mention the brick-like feel and size. If I go to an important event or holiday (or want to pixel peep) I take dslr and L glass with me in addition to S90. For P&S needs -> I have a camera that gives beautiful photo’s and I hardly know (or feel) it is with me. RX100 will have to shrink substantially to be able to compete with P&S cameras size-wise.I did want to like RX100 III very much. But Sony needs to get the processing sorted and give us pleasing results that do not require couple off minutes processing per each photo to make them look nice. At the moment, to me at least, the RX100 is lost in space: way too big to compete with P&S segment, and with picture quality that is nowhere near dslr quality – yet it cost more than basic dslr and kit combos.
I understand, I really liked my S90 too. It grows on you, cute little thing with decent image quality. But at some point you will move on. It's OK to see other cameras.
Steve Balcombe: I find 'bullet time' sequences endlessly fascinating, but this has everything wrong with it. The subjects are not interesting enough, the arc movement is nausea-inducing, and the jitter is dreadful. Utterly hopeless, I'm amazed Microsoft let this be released.
I like the idea of the arc. I like the idea of the frozen moment. I appreciate the effort involved. I just wish that they'd raised the arc up a bit, and made the cameras either slanted towards one point, or away from one point. With the cameras flat, the image is flat.
With so much in the world heading south, it's inspiring that cameras just keep getting better and better.
BTW, nice to see you around again David!
Hmm. Looking at the shape bokeh, which has been around forever, obviously ... could you just make it a really smooth circle and fix a lense's bad bokeh characteristics (for certain situations)? :)
wansai: soooo are we supposed to strap the flash onto a stand with a rubber band after putting the receiver on?
There is an adaptor included in the kit with a tripod mount, or you can put it on a standard cold-shoe stand.
Jogger: errr.. cool concept, but, no to kickstarter. most of them fail and for the successful ones, the originators sell off to the highest bidder, keeping all the profits (e.g. Oculus) and leaving the backers with half-@$$ dev products.
let me know when there is a product that i can buy.
That's not been my experience with crowd-sourcing at all Jogger. 95% positive experiences here. Which is actually possibly higher than my positive experiences with established companies ...
Denton Taylor: I don't get this. The 580EXii, to which this is compared, is a discontinued item. So you really have to compare it to the 600EX-RT. The 600EX-RT is currently selling for $550 USD, and has sold in the past for $500. So why would you even consider buying this thing with a radio control and all its failings for $400? If you insist on buying cheap sh*t, may as well buy the Yongnuo YN-E3-R controller for $130 and either buy Canon 600EX, or wait for the Yongnuo equivalents which should be out soon.
I don't get this. The article you are commenting on has just described in detail how this product is not "cheap sh*t". Did you read it?
Alain Laboile: Thanks all for your comments, some of them are really... interesting.
Wonderful shots Alain. I enjoyed #13 especially.
Houseqatz: being able to REALLY edit the images from a camera phone is a dream come true. it's not always practical to carry around a dslr, but i always have my phone on me. the 1020 is the best solution for my needs, mostly taking notes, and quick snaps, and when i want more, it delivers.
i have yet to use a camera phone that is as capable in the image department, or whose output affords as much editing latitude. i know that the 808 is supposed to outperform the 1020, but i have never seen one in the wild.
Read that first sentence again HowaboutRAW - "from" a camera phone, not "on" a camera phone.
9 pictures and not one of someone actually *gripping* the camera?
What is the story with the double images? The first ones of the set look sharper and seem to have higher DR (or at least better color). What is the difference in processing/process between the two?
meanwhile: For photos, this is only step one for the S120. It also shoots RAW. The quality difference of the RAW vs JPEG on the S series cameras can be significant (not always, but can be). Especially if you are looking to get details out of blown highlights or deep shadows, sharpen during demosaicing, or need to adjust white balance.
Any chance of adding the RAWs too?
If the Nokia RAWs aren't supported by your workflow (Lightroom, Aperture, etc) that makes it less versatile or useful though.
For photos, this is only step one for the S120. It also shoots RAW. The quality difference of the RAW vs JPEG on the S series cameras can be significant (not always, but can be). Especially if you are looking to get details out of blown highlights or deep shadows, sharpen during demosaicing, or need to adjust white balance.
bigdaddave: A lovely bit of fun, but I hope this isn't being taken seriously as an 'artistic' project
Meh, art can be fun too.
Are those samples almost all underexposed by the camera? (pre-production, so kinda forgivable)
Camp Freddy: A pretty ugly concoction, but somehow Olympus ( and Sony therefore as major share holder) are committed to a superzoom and retro PEN / OM styling.|Better off doing an mFT 16mpx chip with a non interchangeable 24-120 collapsing zoom for around the 700 USD mark IMHO. Let Fuji amd Panny fight it out with Nikon following soon after in the superzoom sector.
"When it was $500-NO. This camera is overpriced."
I have an XZ-1. Low light performance is worse, controls are worse, no EVF, almost 3 times less reach, and lens slower on the long end. How is this camera not worth the price of admission when compared to that?