This is just a natural evolution away from the 5D and 7D canons, which have been used extensively in film production for several years. as well as the hits being tricked out by rental houses for professional use (google 'panavised Canon 5D' ) The big sensor and small form factor body is whats attractive to film makers, and now Its no big deal really.
I do like the idea of lens babies, but they are SO distinctive in their effect, that it turns the lens into a novelty. Ive found most people use it a few times and put it in the cupboard.
Shadowww: GH4 produces different files when it is connected to the interface unit? Huh, interesting.. I wonder what is reason for that.
Maybe it changes the file ID only and not the actual file contents, and as such may not be recognised by CR
Ben Stonewall: Maybe an 'M-III' that works and that people actually want to buy, but only for sale in India.
Whats an MIII ? A mirrorless?
nerd2: Digital already surpasses film in every aspects (resolution, dynamic range, noise) and can closely simulate any film we had. I think we should ban film photography, just for environmental reasons.
@TheChefs. Hey i couldn't resist looking at your website. Stunning work mate. Film or digital, keep it up. The Japan and Nepal galleries are terrific.
The capture medium is much more important than the projection medium. Projection standards have surpassed print film, but not the case in capture medium.
Sorry but your wrong. I work with cinematographers every day and i do look at this stuff. I do love digital, but its not close enough (yet) to a great film scan, frankly an 8k film scan digitally projected on a 4k projector is simply breathtaking. It feels like reality and definitely looks more natural. Film goes deep in its complexity. As far as the storage argument goes, yes prints fade, but neg when looked after properly will outlast any digital medium and you have the advantage of having all that untapped information locked away for a very long time, until our scanners catch up. My jaws argument is reinforced by saying, in 50 years jaws will look amazing, where as say Star Wars the phantom menace which was shot Sony HD CAM, will never look any better than it does now.
>>Digital already surpasses film in every aspects (resolution, dynamic range, noise) and can closely simulate any film we had<<Thats simply not true. A high res scan of even an old film negative will yield results superior to digital capture even by todays standards. There is also the other issue of archiving. Classic films stored on film will virtually last forever. The films shot recently on digital will only ever look as good as what the current technology will allow. If you shoot in HD, you will never be able to view in better quality than that. EVER. Not to mention that the playback medium may be unavailable in the future. (There are currently thousands of hours of tape stock sitting on studio shelves that can't be played because nobody makes or services the tape machines anymore. If you think film is inferior have a look at the remaster or JAWS on blu-ray. It looks better today that it ever did. Thats the magic of film right there.
Polytropia: It does not give "a 16-29mm equivalent range". That makes no sense. 16-29mm equivalent to what? Depth of field is not the same as a 16-29mm lens. A 16mm lens would have a different angle. How is that equivalent?
Stop lying to people, DPReview. And stop promoting 135F-format every freaking chance you get. Only a small minority even cares anymore about 135F-format. It's not helpful to continually relate focal lengths to a format that only represents a tiny percent of the market.
It's 2014 not 2004. Please get with the times and start using degrees to describe angles, instead of relating everything to a format few people use anymore.
I will bet anyone here $10,000 USD that less than 5% of photographers have ever looked through a 16mm lens on a 135F camera, let alone owned one or taken a picture with one. So how is it useful to make the analogy of this lens to that particular focal length and not even state that's what you're doing?
@Der Steppenwolf. Viewing the website is free, have you ever payed a cent to read an article here? , learn to read, your really showing who the 7 year old is here, pal.
Why so angry Polytropia? No need to abuse and accuse DPreview, we all know they do great work, and its all for free, so just chill with the vitriol. As for whatever your ranting on about, its commonly accepted that 35mm full frame is a reference point when talking lens field of views. It may change one day, (i doubt it) but that, my dear, is simply how it is.
NDT0001: Man, whats canon doing releasing this stuff? Why don't they focus their efforts on producing products people want. In case no ones noticed they are getting creamed in the stills field by Fujifilm and Olympus , and creamed in the DSLR video field by Panasonic GH4, and Sigma now showing them how its done in high quality primes. Im very close to dumping my whole 5Dmk3 kit and 6 lenses for the above mentioned brands.
I do agree they are market leaders, but i think this is purely due to market penetration over the last 20 years. They have seriously slowed down with their product development, i would say on the verge of stall. They better watch out though, because companies like fujifilm with their new sensors and body design are surpassing them in this regard. Im speaking from personal experience here. Like the xt-. Superb image quality and ergonomics in a package 1/2 the size of the 5/7D models
Man, whats canon doing releasing this stuff? Why don't they focus their efforts on producing products people want. In case no ones noticed they are getting creamed in the stills field by Fujifilm and Olympus , and creamed in the DSLR video field by Panasonic GH4, and Sigma now showing them how its done in high quality primes. Im very close to dumping my whole 5Dmk3 kit and 6 lenses for the above mentioned brands.
SteveS: I hate sidecar files!
Our photographic predecessors would be envious of the amount of ease and control we have over the editing of our images these days.Good times!
I dont understand how you think creating duplicate copies of your files won't l result in more data? Yes lightroom does create an edits database, but what I'm saying is, its always going to be smaller than duplicating files, even if you do just save them out as Jpegs. I also don't get how you would think using an external program would be superior to having an integrated file manager in the software your working in . I get you might prefer bridge which is totally fine, but to say its 'vastly superior' is just exaggeration.
@ HowaboutRAWIts sounds like your a bit misinformed about lightroom.Although Photoshop doesn't mess with the original raws, it does save your changes as a new file which is a PSD, so you end up with multiple copies of the same file, which can be laborious to work with as well as eating up huge amounts of drive space. Ligtroom never dupes the file, but keeps a database of edits which are insignificant in size when compared to making multiple copies of the same file.
As far as your bridge comment goes, i think the Lightroom cataloguing system is logical and far superior to bridge, not to mention that cataloguing and editing are integrated within the same program, so theres no 'round tripping' between software.
I WILL NEVER GIVE MY MONEY TO THE THIEVING NIKON CLOUD BASED MODEL. ITS ROBBERY AND HOLDING YOUR FILES TO RANSOM. BOYCOTT NIKON!!!!
Ive been shooting a doco with this camera. The 4k image really is a knockout, and the pro functions, like highlight/shadow adjust, peaking, zebras, histogram and pedestal adjust make a really professional tool for the videographer. I can only imagine how much better it will be when the production base arrives with hdsdi outputs and all the other things. Well done Panasonic, you've really nailed this one.
Biowizard: I'm sticking to my two fave versions of Photoshop: 7 (which runs on my legacy computers) and CS6. Not going ANYWHERE near CC.
Im sorry, you really showed me! So clever! im not going to get over this humiliation any time soon. :-(
Your right JF69 i have no clue. But i do use software like Photoshop that can edit raws directly from import to export without having to jump around with different software or do conversions. If peasants like yourself wish to keep using sub standard or superseded software because your too cheap to use the latest software to streamline your workflow thats your choice i guess 3rd world fool lol.
Thats fine if your a hobbyist with time on your hands, but those of us who make a living off picture making, introducing yet another step in the post workflow (convert my 500 raws from a shoot before editing? no thanks) is inconvenient and expensive. My time is worth more than that.