Josh152: This looks like the best compact released this year. I love that the zoom is on a manual ring. The only issue is that it looks very easy to turn off accidentally.
Quite a twist to get from 28mm to off position (its like going from 28mm to 85mm).Firm twist to turn it off.
Turning onfirm twistthen just before it gets to 28mm there is a slight "ridge" to tell user it is at 28mm.
shaocaholica: Does the DR mode work in RAW? SN and HR should be the same in RAW since you can combine the photosites during the demosaic but DR requires reading half the photosites first and your RAW developing application needs to know how to properly demosaic the image.
Yes DR mode works in RAW as does HR & SN
final row is RAW
gl2k: At first I was impressed by the body design and control elements of this cam. Additionally the larger sensor sounded very promising. So I started looking for images to check the quality. Now I'm slightly disappointed. The IQ is slightly better than that of an average P&S but definitely below the Nikon J1.
It's not that they are bad. Rather too close to an ordinary P&S.
I only went for the ISO 200 images.http://www.lenstip.com/1949-news-Fujifilm_X10_-_sample_images.htmlhttp://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x10/sample_images/
These examples show better the capability of X10.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wingmanzero/sets/72157627878259321/ (soft skin portrait mode jpeg)
Once you have held & used X10 it is easy to realise X10 is a class above LX5, XZ1, G12, P7100.Imo the finest digicompact released thus far.
thecrowR: Seem like nothing special on the IQ....compare to G11.Sad...
Sad about a camera ?Tried G12 & X10 in Cameraworld.X10 a class above.
Really nice framing tracking through OVF.I would've done better with more time & a few days with X10 (i was trying it out in CameraWorld).
F2.2 face detect continuous af, 7fps 10fps, finger held down on shutter.Lowest sharpness jpeg. Exposure turned out just as the OVF saw them.Indoor shopping mall difficult lighting, moving subjects. Exposure super accurate : colours, wb, peoples clothing, skin tones, shop signs.
rhlpetrus: How is the OVF? That owuld be a deal breaker for me if like the CanonG/NikonP series, which are very poor.
OVF fair amount brighter sharper to my Olympus E1 100% (which i took with me), & my Nikon D1H 96%.I wear heavy glasses (shortsighted), really liked OVF, for me the brightest sharpest OVF of any of my dslrs including Kodak SLRc fullframe.
(Had a refamiliarisation with ovf G12, P7000 poor tunnels forgettable).
endymion: Im very pleased to see that the X10 still has the depth of field highlight that the X100 has, which will allow the finding of the hyperfocal point, but where are the controls for shutter speed and aperture? I'm guessing that they are the dial on the back face near the AEL/AFL button and the ring around the 4 way pad? Can anyone tell me? Thank you?
Main rear control dial just above AEL AFL button. One press changes aperture, press again to change shutter.
I found it more handy than having two dials to change aperture shutter as i have on my dslrs.
CameraWorld allowed me to play X10 near two hours. Big shout out.
OVF brighter than my Olympus E1 100% ovf i took with mee. Also brighter than my Nkon D1H. I easily proffered big bright ovf X10 to my E1 and forget about the poor ovf tunnel G12, P7000 i also tried.
OVF always in focus from 1cm macro to 112mm due to diopter adjustment. Zooms so smoothly with lens zoom. Very easy to track. 85% shows less than the lens sees still very very nice to compose through it.
F2 sharp sharp.
White balance, colours lovely.Build is exemplary. Stealth.No way accidentally switch on off too solid for that.Manual focusing easy rear subcommand dial automatically magnifies focus point.
Photojournalist, Reportage, Street dream : setting hardware face detect, continuous drive & continuous focusing, tracking through OVF keeping my finger on shutter 10fps people doggies moving all in focus (will post photos on dpreview forum). Quick jpeg write time enabling another 10fps with a few seconds.
G12 1fps approx.P7100 2fps.
AF & AF Integrity (how accurate it is) : from dpreview forumees
"One thing I wanted to let people know about is the focus and speed of operation. This camera is fast! Shooting is extremely quick. The pre-focussed shutter lag is to all intents and purposes non-existent. The continous drive mode is quick."
"I had a chance to play with the X10 at the Toronto Photo show. So first off, the AF is very fast and it never missed a focus (100+ focus tests). I tried focusing on something close and then far away and back and forth (AF-S was used). I tried to focus on low contrast as much as I could. The AF was always instantaneous and never hesitated. It was noticably faster than my s90 which I had with me."
"I think the 0.01s shuttter lag is a most important property of Fuji X10"
Studio test & gallery of test shots.
High DR12MP normal : http://prophotos.ru/data/articles/0001/4660/65349/dscf0267-original.jpg6MP DR : http://prophotos.ru/data/articles/0001/4660/65350/dscf0268-original.jpg
High ISO low noise 12MP normal iso800 : http://prophotos.ru/data/articles/0001/4660/65344/dscf0156-original.jpg6MP SN iso1600: http://prophotos.ru/data/articles/0001/4660/65345/dscf0157-original.jpg
vshin: Seems like the x10's peers are the G12 and p7100. But at $600 retail, this camera is dangerously close to m43 and Nikon 1 territory.
£439 X10 in Argos. P7100 £479. Year old G12 £399. X10 lot faster lens, manual metal barrel zoom, non tunnel ovf big bright, all metal chassis top base plates dials, 1cm macro, design, style.
Nikon V1 10-30mm £829. Nikon J1 10-30mm £549. Just the range is too little need spend more to have upto 112mm f2.8 & 1cm macro. No OVF. Handing, styling just doesnt inspire and poetry in the photographer.
PEN3 £749 with 14-42mm is lovely. EPL3 £499 with 14-42mm & EMP Pen mini £399 with 14-42mm both nice. Yet bulkier with any lens & no ovf, no equivalent 28-112mm nor 1cm.Maybe Pen pro which will costa lotta.
Ive got a EP1 original Pen.
X10 is as far as it is possible in compact cameras one ring to rule them all.
rhlpetrus: Looks nice but I want to see IQ as ISO goes up. The sensor is 1/2 the area of the Nikon 1 system, exactly, which would, in principle, reduce performance by one stop. The relatively fast lens is very good, we have to thank Panny to have started the trend with the LX3. If this had come a couple of years ago I'd probably would have got one to replace the G9 I use now and then. Now there are many more options in this price range, including Nikon and Nex/m43 offerings, with better IQ and more versatility. And those systems are showing excelent AF performance, which is the Achiles heel of most compacts. The back looks so much D71000 ... ;).
High ISO low noise
12MP normal ISO 800 : http://prophotos.ru/data/articles/0001/4660/65344/dscf0156-original.jpg
6MP SN ISO 1600: http://prophotos.ru/data/articles/0001/4660/65345/dscf0157-original.jpg
SantaFeBill: Too bad that the SN and DR modes are only available with JPEGs. That takes it off my wish list.
EXR DR & SN in RAW (last row of manual). Change the RAW=Off setting in menu to enable. Manual : http://g1.img-dpreview.com/C97E463268AA499C8C01F9F993215784.jpg
This has been pointed out in http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1012&thread=39717384 by two forumees.
markmosk: Can you control the aperture manually on this rig? (dial or ring?)
Yes via rear command wheel or sub command dial. Aperture control in Aperture priority & Manual modes.
EXR DR & SN in RAW (last row of manual). Change the RAW=Off setting in menu to enable.
noobdprseller: Posted by magnumgf : "Do you actually take pictures or do you just spend your time writing in forums? What you wrote seems to make sense, only of you have some ulterior motive such as selling cameras. I wish you the best of luck with that. I suppose the suckers who fall for your nonsense deserve what they get."
My dpreview gallery, some taken with almost a decade old dslrs needing photographer to think like film days & not rely on the cameras thinking.I have also been shooting rangefinders since the 80's, starting with Yashica Minister.
Anyone with experience of shooting fim rangefinders, sould find shooting through X10 OVF easy.Anyone who has used compact digicams with an ovf should find shooting through X10 OVF easy.Anyone who has not used digicams with ovf shouldl after a while become accustomed to X10 OVF.
What a silly attack you made on me magnumgf.You made an idiotic & immature attack on mr.Moronic twit attack as you have made should be sent to the trash.
I agree having exposure info on the black real estate surrounding the screen (just as in dslrs) would have been been useful.YET as i know from my Canon S70 & Ricoh GX8 compacts which had a tunnel ovf, once we become used to how the camera exposes & focuses it really does become pretty straight forward.
Fuji engineers with decades of experience know what they are doing.I feel they have they meant the OVF to be used for bright light, architecture & landscape in fully auto for action, fast moving, photojournalism, reportage, street (where speed & tracking is an essence).For anything precise they have the LCD with 49 AF points & manual focus.
Posted by magnumgf : "Do you actually take pictures or do you just spend your time writing in forums? What you wrote seems to make sense, only of you have some ulterior motive such as selling cameras. I wish you the best of luck with that. I suppose the suckers who fall for your nonsense deserve what they get."
X10 ZOOM OVF GLASS ASPHERICAL 3 ELEMENTS & 2 DACH PRISMS
Somebody mentioned focusing through X10 Zoom OVF
I had a plastic tunnel ovf on my Canon S70 & Ricoh GX8.I nailed focus every time.After a little use focusing though X10 OVF will be easy. These days CDAF is sophisticated in small sensors, and X10 AF is reportedly fast. Manual focus, likewise with a little use will become easy.
No shooting info on OVF:This will make us a better photographer. TBH i like just me deciding what aperture, shutter, iso, ev i need to make nice photos.I dont want camera to decide, i dont want to rely on a camera giving me info to make a nice photo.Shooting through OVF takes us to the root of making nice photos.
85% view:This means more will be taken than what the lens shows (as someone said by about 9% vertical 9% horizontal).Useful as wont get cropped elbows, parts of things chopped. We can trust X10 OVF to get everything in.
Somebody below mentioned form over function ?I find that comment quite strange.
DIETER RAMS : Fuji X10 meets almost all of Dieter Rams ten principles of good design.http://www.vitsoe.com/en/gb/about/dieterrams/gooddesign
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