David Hull

I think this sums it up nicely. This is the only model that has proven to work for mature products and had been adopted almost uniformly by major tool vendors in other related industries.  If you...

What you OWN is a license to use CS3 for as long as you want to (or can). However, once you cannot use it (OS changes, New Camera, etc.), which will happen eventually, you will need to solve that....

You never "owned" the SW, you weren't even renting the SW. What you owned was a an open ended license to use that particular version of the SW and that is all. Yes you own your car, your home, your...

This has already happened in the EDA tool industry -- the fact that this model works and is viable is already well established.  However for each expensive tool (for example: MatLab, MathCad,...

That is actually part of the problem (peopel not upgrading). It is a mature product and there is really no reason for many to upgrade yet the thing still has tremendous value. So if you are the...

Most high end tool vendors have moved to this model already and there is really nothing wrong with it. The only issue is the price which is just too high for the individual user. They said in one...

You are going to have no choice eventually subscription based licensing has been the norm for tols like this for many years.  I think what is bothering most of us is the price.

If Adobe is throwing away that many customers, then some other vendor will dive in there to grab them.

Have they actually said what the price will be for a single seat of PS for a single user? It looks like $20 but I heard somewhere that individual apps were $10. Does anyone know? If PS is $20...

That's good to know, I'll take a look at that one.  I like PS but not at $240/yr (if that is what it ends up being for a single user license.

That is more a replacement for LR than PS, though, is it not?  Does it have layers, masking etc.?  More importantly, does it read and write DNG?

... just a bad price. For a single application for a single user, an equivalent monthly rate of $9.95 would not be bad. That is similar to what MSFT is trying to get for their subscription plan. ...

"has set the pricing of its Creative Cloud products at a similar level to its existing software"

I don't get that part. It seems like I have been paying about $200 every 18 months for the...

So what. I have seen Bill's curves, I know why they look the way they do and what they mean (I contributed the data for a couple of them). However, my point is that all of this dredging detail out...

Nope... not buying it. Perhaps some time someone can implement a properly run double blind test where we have perhaps 100 images, half originating from something like a 5DIII, half from the D800,...

But... If this were REALLY true (in any sort of broad sense anyway), you would be able to easily pick out what camera shot what photo in any gallery exhibition which we all know is quite tough to...

So very, very true... I often wonder, can any of these guys make a decent photograph.  Almost without exception, the examples are boring and worthless. Yep...

Mainly because that is what most of the examples consist of, not unlike the example used by the OP where the end result is ugly in both cases. You can argue about which is uglier, perhaps, but...

Perhaps someone should take these two cameras and demonstrate how good an image you can get out of them. All Mikael ever shows is how he can take two perfectly respectable cameras and make an ugly,...

Evidently yes.