ozturert: Biggest change would be to improve AF in low light. A6000 sucks in low light, even EOSM is better. In good light though...And how about the viewfinder? Does it still slow down considerably under low light? I see that it has been updated, which is a good sign.
-1 EV with an F/2 lens according to the spec sheet on the Sony website. Metering down to -2 EV.http://www.sony.com/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-6300-body-kit/specifications
uMad: I don't see the "Oh WOW"
It has the same (cheap :/) body the A6000 has, still no weather sealing, no "pro features" like joystick, touch AF or dual cards.
The viewfinder is no the standard it was with NEX 6 in 2012.
The sensor seems to be similar to the one Fuji announced with the X-Pro2
And price went up by 350$. - OH WOW 350$ ?!!!!! WTF!
It has improved sealing, apparently even at the lens mount this time.http://sonyglobal.scene7.com/is/image/gwtprod/d1bd57e76510d20551125de50688f544?fmt=jpeg&wid=378&qlt=85
And the EVF is not the same as the NEX 6 EVF. Possibly the OLED panel is, but with the DR (and visible sharpness due larger read out) improvements that we already saw in previous releases, faster readout (120fps), completely new EVF optics (see A7RII et al).http://sonyglobal.scene7.com/is/image/gwtprod/62bad5e2afdeb2d736016c04995f6642?fmt=jpeg&wid=378&qlt=85
The body may look similar, it's not the same at all, it's magnesium alloy:http://sonyglobal.scene7.com/is/image/gwtprod/44c93c91bb79d7186099c144a587abee?fmt=jpeg&wid=378&qlt=85
jalywol: No BSI sensor, no IBIS, and more expensive? Meh. I guess they really want people to buy their FF models.
The blue line around the lens mount would suggest a first actual lens mount seal for an E mount camera (used to be orange in the graphs from the A7RII et al).
SidePod: oh wow .. how underwhelming ... but since its a Sony: "WOW!"
It has a level gauge.
nutscracker: Where is the new APS-C lenses? Sony's current APS-C lenses lineup is a junk
The announced 70-200mm and 85mm FE lenses obviously cover both formats and actually serve both formats. Because they would be pretty much the same size and weight if only designed for APS-C. Which is why Canon and Nikon don't have 70-200 f/2.8 or 85mm large aperture lenses that only cover APS-C either.
Likewise, many current A6000 owners have already been using the 70-200mm f/4 too.
- live view during 8fps burst,- 120fps viewfinder mode- higher resolution viewfinder - magnesium alloy housing- reinforced lens mount- dust and moisture resistance- digital level gauge- 4K (6k oversampled!) video- 120 fps 1080P- S-Log 3- XLR audio support- microphone input- improved AF speed, coverage and tracking
Just to name a few upgrades from the A6000.
bakanecko: 2015 Sony cameras are not volume sellers, all premium priced and segmented for higher level photographer, no surprise here.
Read what I wrote, it (bread being money) is being eaten as we speak. Whether you or I like it or expected it or not. Don't think for a second that these camera makers would choose to lose money... Instant punishment from investors.
endofoto: Sony has to make difference in sensors to force us to buy new cameras. Graphene sensors can increase camera sales, bec silicon sensors cant get any better. Graphene sensors are 1000 times more light sensitive and 10 times cheaper than silicon sensors.
You fell for the marketing material, but if you read the paper on that sensor, you would know it's only really claimed useful at cryogenic temperature. Good luck with that in a camera. ;-)
Brace yourself for huge amounts of dark current noise.
Jonathan F/2: It's kind of hard to support into the Sony camera system when they only have a handful of lenses and the ones that are available are grossly overpriced.
And yet those Canon and Nikon (other makers) reported a larger drop in sales and a drop in operating income (where Sony shows a 20% increase).
Too many back seat drivers.
That must explain why both Canon and Nikon reported a larger drop in sales and a drop in operating income (instead of 20% increase). ;O)
Andreas Voigt: "...more RX and a7-series cameras. Operating income went up by over 20%, however, due the aforementioned shift to higher-end digital cameras"
That’s no surprise. Over the years Sony managed to double the price of the RX100 series (model I to IV). And their latest a7 series got a 50% premium price hike.
But it makes me wonder how the strategy (trying to compensate declining sales by increasing the price) is going to work out over the long haul.
They leave the older (cheaper and with discounts)models in the lineup. In other words, there's still choice. The A7 can be had for a mere $1099 at Amazon for example.
It's all about their margins. If they can get two camera modules for the price of about one found in current phones, it will happen. Don't hold your breath yet.
The Squire: This is the new low-light king - Excellent control of chroma noise, even at high ISOs.
Chroma noise from a monochrome (no color filter) camera, would be unexpected to begin with....
rrccad: well after grand proclaiming that CES, samsung would release new stuff - it's pretty obvious that samsung has shut this baby down a long time ago.
basically 1.5 years since the last lens came out for any of their systems, last camera came out nearly a year ago, even the firmware updates have dried up.
bad planning by samsung, making a great prosumer / pro styled body without a prosumer/ pro lens over 150mm and expecting it to sell well.
if they invested a little bit of brain power into a 100-400, or a 150-600 (or both) and released it with the camera they have have stirred things up a little more. but it was a camera without the lens arsenal that it desperately needed.
Both the 6D (less than half) and D750 (almost half) are considerably cheaper than that #27, the 5DmkIII is a good deal cheaper too (because they're clearing stock for the replacement), different class. And the ones I mentioned (D810 and 5DS/R) are the closest and latest competition to begin with, because the respective new high resolution DSLR's and outsold by a long shot apparently.
Good try though.
"a7 series out not even in the top 10 of MILC"s in NA .. the one place it should sell well."
Blablabla. It has consistently been in the top 10 at Amazon most of the time (which is not the whole of NA, but hey, what other NA top 10 lists do you have...).Currently in spot #3, #13, #14, #16, #25 and #29, which considering it's a FF camera, is pretty high up. Not to mention the shaky reliability of those lists in general, since for example the A7SII sometimes gets listed as a DSLR (now...) and sometimes as a mirrorless camera. And even for ILC's (#27), outselling the 5DS, 5DR (not in the top 100) and D810 (#63).http://4.static.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~forums/57045625/d0b3c952e8f44e0faf7adbcf55724609
Cool story though.
photomedium: Not convinced. $2k APSC? Only time I see pro shooting crop is when they are ambassador-ing in some YouTube vid. Weighs almost 1kg, it can only record a blazing 3min of 4K (and 10 min HD) footage (enough to earn the 4K tramp stamp). Wonder if it overheats...It does have a touchscreen and 10fps but no flash, it's only 20mp...what else...I rather get the d750 and a plastic bag for when it rains? Thanks.
At 24/30P, but at 60P, the FHD output is limited to 10 minutes too.
Bernard Carns: Only 3 minutes of 4k video?
Are they using the leftover sensors from Sony that overheat too much?
ozturert: It has incredible detail at lower ISOs, and I think very usable at high ISOs. Excellent ergonomics, user experience and one of the best lens set. What else do I want? DR is nice to have but is overrated (especially by Rishi).
"ISO, DR, even pixel number is overrated by review sites. "
By the same token, almost every metric or every camera feature (including handling, glass, etc.) is overrated. I mean, beautiful pictures were taken with Brownies back in the day, beautiful pictures are taken today with simple phone cameras.
Might as well stop reviewing and comparing cameras, because every camera can take great pictures. It would just mislead people.Or the simplest solution to all the fallacies you listed: don't read reviews.
newworld666: Just wondering why you aren't tired after so many years of systematic Canon bashing .. Just take a few minutes to understand what are in Canon's RAW pictures and you will get a much better JPG results of the 5Dsr than what you publish based on an inappropriate Adobe Standard profile applied to +4 or +5 EV dynamic .
Basically it's so ridiculous to compress 14EV ou dynamic to 8EV dynamic (Max JPG's file format) or 10EV Dynamic of the best 4K monitor's at more than 1500€
But at least publish really what is in a 5DSR RAW converted correctly to jpg extract from you rawhttps://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-FvDHHFb/0/O/i-FvDHHFb.jpg
and here is a detail (D810 on the left and 5Dsr on right)https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-kkgkWbb/0/O/i-kkgkWbb.jpg
In such ridiculous situation D810 is in a way a bit better, but definitely not as much as you pretend with your eternal Canon bashing
No, I don't get "suspicious" over a custom tonecurve, but do you look over your shoulder for every trace of inaccuracy that you leave after your editing?
Shifting your gripe towards things that can be easily fixed (such as this one, which is rather in the middle of the histogram...), rather than the elephant in the room (noise, lost shadow details), tells me you ran out of ammo before you started the argument.
KAllen: So landscape photographers crave DR more than anything? I can remember when most landscape photographers shot Fuji Velvia and Provia. Of course there was plenty of film around with greater DR but it just wasn't the issue that today makes people think its a must have. Clients even specified Velvia, obviously not bothered that the small DR obviously made good photography impossible.Makes me wonder if DR is so important why did everyone take to digital so quickly when Kodak make Portra colour neg, which has great DR and beautiful colour.Every now and then a new line is drawn in the sand, fps, high iso,megapixel quantity, DR. What next I wonder, what will be the make or break buzz word for a camera next year?
You forgot AF.