Barry Fitzgerald: Looks like a nice camera. On the other hand Pentax are again applying NR to raw files. And it seems even more aggressively than before.There is a lack of fine detail in the high ISO raw shots/comparison page. How did DPR miss this or not mention this limitation?
sir_bazzI believe it is a valid point about raw NR.I do think DPR should have made this a con and talked about it more (clearly showing some softness in the raw files)Anyway I'm sure it's a nice camera, assuming they have fixed the awful AF problems of the K-r
Exactly Hubert is wrong I am a photographer but raw is supposed to be raw not some non avoidable NR processing a maker slaps on there. It got only a very brief mention..mostly dismissed as an Adobe issue (which is false) and suggested that is was "mild" It does not appear in the "cons" section either.
Yet a lack of dedicated video button is listed..I'm not sure what DPR are smoking, but hmmmmm.
I've used Pentax's NR raw before and it can lead to smeared colour splotches at high ISO, hot pixels of various colours that are hard for ACR to map out. In short is makes high ISO shooting harder.
Raw is raw and Pentax should not be applying NR to it.
Looks like a nice camera. On the other hand Pentax are again applying NR to raw files. And it seems even more aggressively than before.There is a lack of fine detail in the high ISO raw shots/comparison page. How did DPR miss this or not mention this limitation?
Barry Fitzgerald: Disruptive technology = Ignoring usersD600= A99 killer, guess who will sell more?
Sony are way off base, lost the plot years ago and are too bone headed to admit SLT has failed big time
We shall see being disruptive for the sake of it (and at the same time completely ignoring the target buyers needs) is merely a paper tiger.
Sony need to start listening rather than trying to tell customers what they should be using. Majority of FF potential buyers do NOT want an EVF SLT camera.
Band big words around as much as they want..Sony are on the ropes and the A99 isn't even going to chip the paint of the FF tanks from Canikon. The A99 is going to be a spectacular flop..it won't pull any users from the other makers, let alone satisfy current A mount users either.
Adrian Harris: I find a lot of the comments here amazing. I am not brand loyal - far from it. Every time I want a tool to do a job, I analyze what is needed and what will do it best.Unfortunately cost benefit value is a very important part of that.
After considering all alternatives I still bought a very expensive Sony RX100 as a pocket camera. ...and of course last year for my pro work a Sony A77 SLT.
Thank you Sony :o)
Thank you Sony for making the SLT A99 £500 more expensive than the D800!Rest in peace SLT A99
Read it and weep!Disruptive means to erm do some damage. So when Canikon sell hand over fist far more than the A99 that leads us to conclude? That this is about as disruptive as a pussy cat in a tigers den. It's not!
Overpriced, offers nothing new..an EVF which most users don't want. Only a few die hard Sony fans or video folks will even look twice at it. That's the hard truth
Disruptive technology = Ignoring usersD600= A99 killer, guess who will sell more?
raylob: I thought iPhone was a phone rather than a camera?Ray
Lol yes it is. IMO DPR have better things to do than waste time reviewing a phone with a camera.More and more DPR get distracted when there are lots of "real cameras" to review. Let the phone sites do phone reviews, photo sites do real camera reviews.
Banding at high ISO..
Dvlee: How did DP review come to the conclusion that the D3200 competes with the Canon T3?
The T3 is nothing more than a bare bones low entry level DSLR for consumers who've never owned a DSLR and don't know how to buy one.
To anyone who wants a T3 I say "You really should buy a $1300 camera....Because by the time you figure out how to use the camera you will realize that it's less camera than you want and you'll end up spending another $800 for a T3i sooner rather than later."
Regardless of any shortcomings some may find in the D3200, it far outclasses the T3.
I think the D3200 would appeal more to the kind of photographer who might buy a Canon T3i or T4i. With it's higher resolution and lower price point it'll certainly give those cameras a run for the money.
If I didn't already own a bagfull of Canon glass, I'd give this camera serious consideration. And if the recent trend of Canon and Nikon continues, I may dump that glass and switch to Nikon.
Well yes it's the same low end/low featured body kicking around for years. Bar some gimmicks and video bits added not much has changed bar the sensor.Shockingly the T3 actually has a DOF preview (have to menu dive to assign it though), can do HSS with a dedicated flash, and exposure bracketing. believe it or not it's actually better featured than the Nikon
I have film bodies over a decade old that out gun this new Nikon
Barry Fitzgerald: Very poorly featured model lacking even the most basic functionality. It's shameful to have a DSLR in 2012 that can't even do exposure bracketing, or HSS. Has almost nothing a new user will need to get into photography, no DOF preview, poorly implemented live view, no wireless flash.
Yet the 24mp sensor seems to "cure all complaints" for some reason. Marketing over substance it is quite obvious that a new users will have no need for 24mp or anywhere near that. It's a sensor and nothing else.
Shame DPR could not give a critical review and dismissed all those points above.
I agree they are useful for new and experienced users alike
Nothing at all to do with Panasonic being the official sponsor for the Olympics ;-)http://panasonic.net/olympic/
There is no need for a D3200 and D5100 both are crippleware the D5100 only adds a few bits like bracketing and nothing else on the must have list.
One model would do just fine, not 2 stripped down ones.The K-x was quite a good camera, shame about the mirror slap/SR issue and poor customer support from Pentax.
Aside from that it made for a far better starter camera than this. In fact just about every camera out there is a better choice, it's just the 24mp that will suck in some folks.
I hardly call exposure bracketing "advanced"I would not expect all of that list maybe the CLS thing can be left off in this price.MLU in a 24mp DSLR is really a very basic requirement though.HSS is again bog standard from every maker bar Nikon
This is a 24mp marketing mission, and not a lot of camera
Very poorly featured model lacking even the most basic functionality. It's shameful to have a DSLR in 2012 that can't even do exposure bracketing, or HSS. Has almost nothing a new user will need to get into photography, no DOF preview, poorly implemented live view, no wireless flash.
role_of_72: The APS-C - 43 gap is now closed. And everyone lives happily ever after :)Good job, Oly!
Depth of field ;-) Nice try though wrong sensor size issue remains!
nobblynoel: Eight megapixels...3264x2448. Backside illuminated sensor...73% more light per pixel than iPhone 4. 33% faster capture. Hybrid IR filter, better color accuracy and uniformity. Five element lens, 30% more sharpness, f/2.4 aperture. Face detection, better white balance, and fast photos.
I don't see how this competes with the p&s market purely because most folks buy one for the "look good factor" not for taking pictures. As a p&s it might be ok (erm no flash pretty obvious weak point) but it's a damn expensive camera if that's your main goal.DPR probably should not cover mobile phones as they are not directly related to photography..what next webcam news?