(unknown member): Just used the a99 for a three day conference here in Austin. The EVF was perfect for "pre-chimping" in mixed lighting for stage shots, etc. The 3200 and 6400 were very clean and the body and controls felt just right in my medium sized hands. I think it's a remarkably good camera for any professional who does not shoot fast moving sports stuff. Don't underestimate the appeal to working professionals of the EVF. It's a great addition for me. And the front dial on the camera, set to exposure compensation, means you never have to take your finger off the shutter to mess with EC when actively shooting speeches, etc.
Bonus, the EVF is much better than OVF under very low light.
Thing I thought I would never used that came in handy? The Smart Teleconverter.
I think DP Review's rating is just right. You buy this camera for the sensor and the EVF. If you are dropping $3000 you know why your are buying it and those features outweigh all the anti-fanboy rhetoric.
Kirk likes to pretend he knows what goes on in the pro market, but is in complete denial about what working photographers want and need. If they wanted an SLT camera that bad you'll find the A99 hit the top sellers list quickly.
Of course it won't sell that well nice camera and all because Kirk represents not real working photographers but a small minority of people who feel they have to sell EVF's to everyone else. Meanwhile in the real world everyone is busy buying tons of FF Canikon bodies with optical finders.
Why? Because that is what they want not hobbyists but people who earn a living taking photos and not writing blogs trying to sell SLT cameras.
Ah the famous EVF speeches are flowing. Ok Kirk open the door take your A99 out and ask working photographers what they think and would they use an EVF over an OVF. Hand them the camera see what they say
I think your bubble will burst very quickly. Most will just walk away uninterested. While you are here I must be missing all these threads on the Canon/Nikon FF forums where users are "asking for an EVF/A99 FF body" where are they?
Maybe the coin will drop eventually. I can see some advantages of the EVF (let's be blunt though we're not newbies so understand exposure and WB), by taking your advice Kirk, Sony have effectively made a product that most photographers simply won't even look at based on some SLT dream which isn't matching what uses want.
Like it or not reality speaks. Sony have not gained market share since they brought out the SLT range, and it was a huge error to abandon OVF models as Sony basically are losing their users to other makers. A lot of them FF ones.
Leaving aside the SLT/EVF love it or hate it (I still think most buyers prefer an OVF at this price point)
Sony's real problem is the FF stampede of late. If the A99 had turned up last year it might have had more impact. Right now the D600 offers much more affordable FF choice (far cheaper in the UK than the A99) I would be very worried about A mount users defecting to Nikon F mount. For pixel crazy folks the D800 is again cheaper than the A99
If Canon get around to pricing the 6d at more appropriate levels. Sony are going to have a really hard time with the A99, and unless a more cost effective FF body arrives for A mount or a big price cut on this model.
Sony will lose quite a few A mount users unless they can address this. For SLT to work it has to offer a cost effective reason to consider it, and right now it does not have that.
Valterj: It looks like a fabulous camera... but it's too big and expensive!
You have to be consistent
Poor battery life compared to its peers- K30 DPR review
Can't be selective sure EVF drains the battery more but..the Pentax choice of going for a slim lithium to allow AA's means..poor battery life too.
DPR report they do not make judgements on compromises for design choices.
Gully Foyle: I will wait and see all the posters who defend the OVFs when Canikon releases their first EVF on a serious (i.e. >D7000, >60D) because...
...THEY WILL !!!
Wake up! The film became sensor, the MF became AF and many many other techs that you now take for granted, were once innovations on obsolete designs.
I bet, were there internet forums back in the '80s there would be the same debate between the ones that found AF a sad joke and the "others".
OVF is currently the future, next they have to get rid of the shutter and then, oh well, lenses!
All digital is the (not so new) dogma. Realize that and be happy with what you have.
The other way of looking at it is you have the best of both worlds.Imagine phase detect off the sensor live view, and a nice big 100% OVF.Choice is goodThe market is not ready for EVF's esp not full frame cameras a good 80% of folks will dismiss it just on that. Sony need to "make a product for the target market" and not try to force something on people they don't want
If DPR ran a poll I bet a good majority would out of choice prefer an OVF for this type of camera
I own an SLT A57 so I can quite happily comment on the pros and cons of EVF's and yes I've used the A77 too so I know the "better" EVF well enough to.
There are advantages and disadvantages with SLT/EVF some quite notable ones. It would be a mistake to suggest they have only good points or just bad points. But some of the limitations of EVF's are quite notable for some users.
Up against a full frame penta prism viewfinder the EVF is going to have a really hard time, where are the Canikon fans screaming for the EVF? They're not there are they..
FF EVF adoption is a far tougher nut to crack than entry level DSLR land
Easy to point out you have enough pro points, but lack on the cons.
The video quality to my eyes is not very good lacking fine details, there are quite a few discussion on this already but I can see it clearly on the samples. They look pretty mushy to me
There are more disadvantages to the EVF than just action shooting, much higher battery drain, DR is low v an OVF, lag in lower light, resolution weak for landscape shooting. Granted there are some nice things focus peaking, can see WB etc.
The swivel LCD many would prefer a side out LCD esp for video shooting.
Lack of in camera development (raw) mentioned but not listed in cons
I also think with larger mp cameras around now the lack of a sraw (Canon) will be considered a problem for some users
Sony's video mode is odd at times you have to be in P mode for AF, you can't set the other modes unless you are in MF. Mentioned but not listed in cons.
There has to be a cost incentive for people to consider EVF's and currently there is no reason to do so (unless you have a ton of Minolta lenses lying around)
DPR seem determined to "sell" EVF's to people, but never mention the real pros and cons of it.
Falling in love with technology is never a good thing for a review site, and the cost will rule it out long before anyone has even considered it. Surely a flop at this price
UK price is scary high £2300. Looks like a £1300 camera to me
I think they mean "Christmas Gift Guide"
Barry Fitzgerald: Woodford is a shining light in the culture of Japanese corporate corruption.His removal as the "honest CEO" Is a stain that Olympus will never be able to move forward from.
I would not spend my money with a corrupt company.
I think Sony had their eye on the medical division rather than the camera one. But it's their cheque book so fire away!Olympus as a company has had innovation over the years and I won't take that away from them.
But this whole "kill the good CEO" episode simply draws an unfortunate line under the old saying "arrogant Japanese company", some clearly more than others. But it has caused huge damage to both Olympus and Japan corporations as a whole.
Woodford is a shining light in the culture of Japanese corporate corruption.His removal as the "honest CEO" Is a stain that Olympus will never be able to move forward from.
andros2k5: I think 24MP are worthless...- Good lenses hardly reach 1500 lw/ph - Bayer sensors have low-pass filter in front of them- 1,5x smaller photosites caught less light- 1,5x bigger file size means 1,5x slower photo burst
...try put last 16Mp Fuji X-Trans sensor under the hood, it puts in the shame 24Mp full frame D600's one... ;-)
For this type of user 24mp is entirely wasted it's just Nikon's big numbers on the box strategy. And it will work because most people chase the big number.
With no sraw option you're stuck shooting big raw file sizes a major weakness of Nikon including the D800
There is a lot more to any camera than just a big pixel count
Joe Bowers: If this camera supports high speed sync (Nikon calls it Auto FP) I will be sold. Sadly, the D5100 didn't, but I'm hoping this one will. After all, the 39 focus points was a nice surprise. As it is, I regretted buying my D5100 when I realized I was limited to 1/250 flash.
Not an effective workaround the ND filter darkens the VF quite a lot, you will need step down rings for various lenses with different filter sizes.
Every DSLR on the market supports HSS (Nikon call it Auto FP) except the entry level Nikons. Even the ultra cheapo Canon EOS1100d has it.
Nikon are way behind..no support for wireless via onboard either. Sure you can use dumb slaves in manual mode, but they won't support HSS either in wirless as the camera does not.
It's called "crippleware" and that is the same card Nikon has played for a long time in this range.
h0tsauce: lol people are b1tching about the weirdest things. This sensor will be top notch, the AF will be class leading, and the images coming out of this camera will be class leading as well. The things that I'm kind of disappointed with are.
Max shutter speed = 1/4000sec. Pentax K30 = 1/6000sec. Viewfinder = 95% pentamirror . Pentax K30 = 100% PentaprismNot weather sealed, Pentax K30 = weather sealed. (not big of a deal but worth mention).
K-30 is hardly massive yet has a 100% penta prism VF. Nikon are just penny pinching as per usual, going for a bit pixel number to sway people. Even my 2005 DSLR has a bigger better viewfinder than a D5200 does.
Class leading AF? I'll believe it when I see it!Pentax deserve some credit for putting a good VF in their camera, come on Nikon 0.78x is sad..tiny peep hole.
Barry Fitzgerald: It's basically a warmed over D5100 which has a poor 0.78x viewfinder, no Auto FP, no wireless flash, no DOF preview. They shoved the questionable AF system from the D7k in there (how you fit 39 dots in a tiny viewfinder is going to be fun) and a 24mp sensor and beefed up the fps a little.
Still no hard buttons for ISO and WB..shame Nikon are really lagging on basic functionality.
Not exactly critical in respect of some areas. I will admit I am overly fussy, but don't see that as a bad thing.On the other hand DPR rarely mention these points (and did not with their D3200 review) I believe it never hurts to have "all the information out there"
I'd rather be overly fussy than too easy to please.A good review site should be mostly negative looking for faults..few do that nowadays. You have to put things into context here, Nikon are years behind everyone else in basic functionality, and deserving of some criticism in that regard.
Any maker that puts gimmicks before basic photographic stuff is asking for criticism. Nikon's entry DSLR's are stuck in the 35mm era in this regard.
I'm critical regardless of brand. Maybe DPR should try that ;-)
I shall have to disagree on that. HSS/Auto FP is on every single DSLR on the market bar the entry Nikon one's. Same for wireless flash via on-board.Only DSLR's to not offer a DOF preview of any kind. The button layout is sub optimal too with no direct access to ISO and WB, you can shove something on the Fn button..but that's about it.Having owned 2 D7000's I found the AF system disappointing and lacking accuracy.
Nikon will sell loads of these, in the same way they have the D3200..because ill informed consumers who think more pixel=better. As basic cameras they are decades behind esp in regard to flash capability.
It's basically a warmed over D5100 which has a poor 0.78x viewfinder, no Auto FP, no wireless flash, no DOF preview. They shoved the questionable AF system from the D7k in there (how you fit 39 dots in a tiny viewfinder is going to be fun) and a 24mp sensor and beefed up the fps a little.