samhain: Nice camera, great ergonomics. Too bad it's not a FF. aps-c dslr's are so 2009.:)
^^ Are you kidding me ? You have absolutely zero facts to prove your points ! Do you even know the sales of Canon and Nikon FF cameras and compare them to all Pentax DSLR sales ?
Why do you think Nikon and Canon haven't replaced their aging 7D and D300s ? That's because at that price point people are buying FF cameras instead. Just think how many DX lenses Canon or Nikon have released in the past year.
And I seriously can't figure out how you compare medium format with 135 format. Please name me ONE medium format camera that can rival the high ISO performance, AF capabilities and burst rates of even the cheapest FF camera available right now. I will bet money that you simply can't.
jaygeephoto: This is Pentax's chance to go after the fat cats pushing their wears at every consumer point. I know that marketing is expensive and breaking into markets is arduous. As good as this camera is it won't make a dent in the market unless it's sold well.
BMW cars are priced much higher than most Fords and have much higher profit margins to boot. The K3 has far better specs than any of their nearest competitors so you can guess they have much lower profit margins than the competing Nikon and Canon cameras as Nikon and Canons make tons of more cameras than Pentax or any of the other camera manufacturers.
More cameras sold also means more lenses and accessories get sold so it all more than adds up.
kodachromeguy: Excellent, this is innovative and very interesting from one of the smaller manufacturers. If we could just get American mass-market consumers to consider Pentax (or micro 4/3) and wean them away from their exclusive infatuation with Can or Nik....
^^ I thoroughly disagree with you. Pentax doesn't have a decent lens collection at all. Not if you want fast prime lenses and a FF system.
Pentax lens line up is far from amazing. Besides their 55mm f1.4 how many f1.4 primes do they have ? Their limited lenses are all pretty slow and don't interest me one bit. Ill take a good quality zoom lens over a slow prime lens anyday.
And the fact that you mentioned adapters show you don't have much value in AF which tons of other people do including me.
LazyFatCat: If there is tilting LCD screen and combination AF so It will be better.
^^ Thats cave man mentality . If Pentax had your way of thinking they wouldn't have put improved video functionality in the K3 or had this unique AA filter mechanism.
Pentax was known to have slow AF but many fanbois claimed that fast AF wasn't so important. Now the K3 seems to have far better AF than its predecessors.
Similarly Pentax cameras had useless video but the K3 has improved on that as well. Video requires an articulating screen for best results. If Sony and Olympus can make weather sealed bodies with articulating screen why not Pentax ?
If Pentax is content to be also rans along with Canon and Nikon then they will be out of business before long.
Why wouldn't this cam be interesting for others ? Its a brand new flagship ASP-C cam. The D610 is a means for Nikon to cancel any negative repercussions on the problems facing the older D610.
maxola67: Posts score K3:D610 - 556:538.Great job, friends!
Lets see whether the sales figures also have a similar ratio ! Seriously whats the whole point of your comment ? The D610 has the most minor of upgrades over its predecessor while the K3 is a proper and worthy upgrade to the K5.
MaxSauvage: As a longtime Nikon D300s user for sports and wildlife, I'm praying that they launches a new APS-C Expert Camera with improve ISO and MP resolution. I'm really feeling like Nikon don't bother their DX-pro users anymore..
Look like Pentax-Ricoh understand what a ton of D300s user wish for a long time ! A 8.3 burst at continuous-shooting (60jpegs - 33 raws continuous is very good) If Pentax can launches a 70-200 or a 80-400, this K-3 would be a very VERY attractive option for wildlife and sports shooters ! !
Canon 70-200mm f2.8 and Nikon 70-200mm f2.8 are also weather sealed, focus much faster, are tack sharp wide open and take 1.4x TCs very well. If you want cheaper then the Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 VC is also weather sealed.
I have a non sealed 70-200mm f2.8 that worked flawlessly when I shot in intermittent rain.
Weather sealing is nice to have of course but IMO the 60-250mm f4 should have been a bit faster for the price.
beenthere: Nikon had better get off their behinds and put out something that looks/smells like a D400, even if they don't call it that. I'm pricing my Nikon F glass to see what their trade-in value is because I'm tired of waiting. D7100 is only about 60% there. Show us some love Nikon, we're not going to wait forever and FX is not in the cards for many of us.
@Greg - In India Pentax is missing from the market and isn't available anywhere. Sony, Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Panasonic, Fuji and even Sigma are present here and have service centers as well.
So Ricoh may be rich but they haven't invested much into their business.
Sony is the only other camera company to offer a FF line up and have FAR FAR more lenses than Pentax and most of those lenses are more modern to boot.
Also Sony has most of the bread and butter lenses that most pros uses like 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4, 135mm f1.8, 24-70mm f2.8, 70-200mm f2.8 etc along with FF bodies. So they are hardly a niche but a viable alternative to Canon and Nikon for all those who need the best AF tracking abilities which is still a Canon/Nikon strength.
^^ I have seen you spreading FUD like anything without a shred of proof to back up what you are saying.
Olympus has WR bodies with tilting screen and so does Sony. Check out A99, A77, NEX 7, Olympus EM1 and EM5 ? 5 bodies with tilting screen not good enough for you ?
Amateurbob: In the days of film Pentax was my camera of choice. I had a Pentax ME that I really liked. Pentax was known for high quality compact cameras and lenses. Compact is not Pentax’s forte today. They are leaving that to Sony. Pentax cameras are big and bulky. The older Pentax film lenses I now use on a Sony Nex camera. However, using a 35mm film lens on an APS camera must result in lower resolution than would be obtained on full frame. The lines per mm may be the same, but the number of mms is less. If I could afford it, I would be more interested in the upcoming Sony FF Nex for my older Pentax lenses than anything Pentax offers. If Pentax came out with an FF k-01 with view finder I would be very interested.
A question for those in the know: if moiré can be controlled by shaking the sensor, can it be equally controlled by post processing software simulating shaking the sensor? If so why add the extra complexity to the camera and why not use such software on any camera?
@Zvonmir - Thats not true. Sure NEX lenses are pretty large as compared to m43 lenses but they are still smaller than DSLR lenses.
The 60-250mm f4 is a very odd lens. Its not very fast or long but is very big, heavy and expensive. Can't really figure out what its purpose is. I would think a 70-200mm f2.8 with a 1.4x TC would be far more versatile and useful.
Unfortunately Pentax has very poor marketing and they lack the budget Nikon and Canon have so they are struggling to compete. Nikon won't waste any time worrying about Pentax.
Even Sony is languishing in a distant third even though they have dedicated stores selling their cameras and a sizable marketing budget.
Thats incorrect. You cannot miss what you don't have. I use tilting screens all the time and I find them tremendously useful especially when shooting on a tripod.
The Olympus EM1, EM5 and Sony NEX 7, A99 and A77 all have tilting screens and weather sealed bodies. The EM1 in particular has some of the best sealing in a ILC camera.
fakuryu: Pentax/Ricoh is on a roll if you think about it:
The K500 gives a lot of camera for the $The K50 also gives a lot for the $The K5II/s is still pretty much a lot of camera for the $Now the K3 is like the K5 on steroids and much more
The Q is also selling quite well in some parts of the world
New HD lenses
Looks like everything is well in Pentax land
Leica-esque IQ ? Oh boy you need to try out some better quality glass. My friend used Pentax for a long time. He switched to Nikon and found their f1.4 lenses to be much better than his limited lenses.
GrahamSeventy1: Fixed LCD, no thanks.
If you don't like it just keep it in its default place ! You don't have to use the articulating screen if you don't want it. On the other hand if you have a fixed screen you are stuck either way.
I do a lot of tripod shooting and not having to bend down every-time I take a shot from a low level is a big bonus.
Plus shooting from an eye level viewfinder is very restricting. Having a tilting LCD frees you to try some different compositions that would be very difficult to do with an OVF.
Slow expensive prime lenses and mediocre zoom lenses don't make it a very compelling system for me. Anybody can design good quality slow prime lenses.
kecajkerugo: why so many people is talking abouit the tiny FF? Real prof. use larger format and Pentax got it: 645. For advanced amateurs the APS-C is perfect and the m4/3 can be even more.
Which FF comes with mediocre features ? :P
All FF DSLRs today come with much larger viewfinders, better flash sync speeds, bigger buffers, better IQ, similar LCD screens, similar weather sealed bodies, similar button options etc etc. The only areas where Pentax shines is the better AF coverage (since it uses a smaller sensor) and cheaper price.
Ed Gill: Great to see Pentax/Ricoh hanging in there with new innovations. Sadly the flash sync speed is going in the wrong direction for a top of the line camera. Sadly Ricoh/Pentax is following the same old path that Minolta/Sony did and continues along - few pro glass offerings and a constant stream of new bodies. All the digital SLRs are fully competent picture capture devices but the magic and versatility is always in the glass. No Pentax 300mm f2.8 or 500mm f4 and currently no full frame upgrade path, at least Sony is adding some pro capability to the alpha series.
Those who find FF and APS-C IQ comparable need to visit an optician. I used an old A900 and the IQ just blew away my current A55.
Pentax needs better zooms. No current 70-200mm f2.8, no f1.4 primes etc etc.
Zvonimir Tosic: Regarding lack of tilting screen: I see that this may be seen as a drawback. But lets think again, like guys at Pentax: at least it seems they think twice about every gizmo others introduce without a second thought. If a camera can be controlled comfortably from any distance via smartphone, which almost everyone has, and have a live preview too — then what's the point making a rugged, weather-proof camera that has a weakest part in its tilting screen while the screen substitute/extension is in your pocket? I don't say it's best solution, but is tilting screen any better?
A tilting screen is incredibly useful and one that I value very highly especially for tripod work.
The Sony A99 and A77 are weather sealed mag alloy bodies and have excellent tilting screens. Yet to see them breaking off by themselves yet.