hteasley: Leica brings out the passion in folks... for or against.
I had an A7R and was miserable shooting it. Loud, poor ergonomics (in my opinion), and while it could produce excellent images, it wasn't my only camera that could do that. It's a great camera, and if you like shooting one, then awesome.
My M (and the M9 before that), I get a lot more keepers than I did with the Sony. I recently purchased a Q, and I love the way it handles, and I love the images I get from it. It's not jewelry, it's an excellent camera.
Nothing handles, for me, better than a Leica. Nothing unessential, no clutter, just simple controls and great IQ.
Look at it this way the Leica Q is a fixed lens camera without any size advantage of a fixed lens camera.
If size is not important then a D750 with a Nikon 35mm f1.4 is not much bigger but has the added advantage of cost savings plus far better versatility than the Leica Q can ever hope to achieve.
stevo23: How about that! A 50mm for under $400.
Hey any FE lens below $500 gets my attention. :P
Though I am tempted I think ill save up and get the Zeiss 55mm f1.8
spiderhunter: Damn! They should have made a 100-400 E mount lens instead! This 70-300 is big with a a 72mm filter and weighs in at 854 gm! Reminds me of the Canon 70-300L which came b4 the 100-400 version 2! @300mm, it is still 5.6 so why not add 100 and make a 400/5.6? That would mate well with the A6300.
This lens is huge enough but they should be launching a wildlife lens like a 70-400mm a little later. Though with the new 150-600mm type lenses they may be tempted for something longer like those lenses.
elgol20: No lossless RAW for 7R?
Disconcerting trend ? If you are expecting new features in all your old cameras you are opening yourself up for a huge disappointment.
PPierre: Almost everyone on Sony FF has the 55, and they release an 50f1.8... Had they released a cheap 85f2.0 (like, sub $500), they would have made both FF owners and aps-c owner happy.
Even though I think Sony is moving in the right direction with some cheaper primes (28 and 50), I really think they're making a mistake. However, this 50 could come as a kit lens, which would be a good move :)
What !!! How can you be happy with a f2.8 prime. f1.8/f2 or no deal
I have been holding off on the Zeiss 55mm mainly because I don't shoot at 50mm very often but this lens at $249 is practically a no brainer considering it will have to have a completely new design being a mirrorless lens so I am expecting decent performance wide open and razor sharp images from f2.8 onwards at least in the centers.
Zorak: I'm a bit sad that I just bought the 70-200 f4 last week, the 70-300 would have been my choice if performance is good... If only they'd give some lense release planning...
Yeah you can try selling it off. There might be a few wanting the lens at a cheaper price in France and not want to wait 2 - 3 weeks for a lens from overseas
The RX1RII is significantly smaller than the Q. The real competitor to the Q is a Sony A7 II with a 28mm f2 and even that is smaller than the Leica.
^^ Nothing unessential, no clutter, just simple controls and great IQ AND MIND BLOWINGLY INSANE PRICES !!!"
You missed a bit on your last statement ! :)
Mr Low Notes: We may not agree on camera gear but this is a very good shot! :-)
Thank you ! :)
Though honestly this was a total fluke shot for me. Just a case of right time right moment !
tkbslc: Canon 85mm f1.8 = $370Nikon 85mm f1.8 G = $426 Sigma 85mm f1.4 = $870
I wish them a lot of luck, but I just don't see where it fits in.
Just for VC ? What about sharpness, bokeh, color, AF etc etc ? We don't know whether this lens will deliver in those aspects but we can't disregard that all that extra weight is doing something for the overall IQ
jesus_freak: Good news for everyone, as competition is healthy for progress. DR improvements plus dual pixel AF gives the competition reasons for continuing to push forward.
^^ What are you smoking ? I am a small time pro and Canon support in my country is far ahead of Sony which I currently use. But I never liked their sensors so I refused to shift. If their new sensors are better I can make the move which will help me get much better service which I currently don't have.
My Sony A7 II has a hot shoe problem and Sony has no clue what to do about it so I have been shooting without TTL on that camera.
bmwzimmer: Canon Crop Sensors are 1.6X vs everyone else which is 1.5X. So its 6.3% smaller and will obviously not perform as well. Even it it were the same size, it's still a bit behind but it's at a point, the differences in real world shooting is negligible...
^^ While yes he needs to improve his skills he also needs to improve his camera. You 'can' take good photos with older DSLRs too but you need to work a lot harder to do so. With newer DSLRs its a lot easier.
I used to use GND filters a lot earlier but with newer cameras I don't need them anymore except in some extreme scenes.
Yes its good Canon has woken up. I like their lenses and cameras but hated their sensors. If their newer cameras have better DR I may even switch to Canon in future.
Its not true at all but whatever makes you feel better so be it.
Three friends went to Thailand to shoot landscapes and my Canon friend got far fewer keepers since we couldn't push his files at all.
TyphoonTW: Do people really take pictures at ISO100 than add 4/5/6 stops of exposure compensation in post?
Mr Low notes is suggesting we should accept mediocrity in this day and age when if you can't compete you shut down. He is what Canon needs ! More fanbois to tell them they don't need to innovate and instead can live off their brand name and existing system.
monokultur: I just dont get it. Who is pushing shadows by 5 stops in real world use? I am into people photography and never ever push more than 2 EV. and i cannot imagine one serious landscape guy / girl who is shooting that bad that there is a need for pushing 5 or 6 EV in post. Look at The photo from that plane in the d750 story. Serious? This picture is pretty much useless and just good enough for having it sake. Last year I went into full frame. I had The d750 and The 6d for one week. After that week The d750 had to leave. Skintones are somewhat unhealthy out of cam and ISO3200 and ISO6400 are worse than 6D concerning color accuracy and detail. The pictures from The 6d where punchy and skintones were so much better right After opening The RAWs in lightroom. Together with the 135mm L I would always choose the 6d over d750 or d610.
Are you kidding me. The OP has no real clue what he is talking about. I regularly work with bright skies and much darker foregrounds and when bracketing is not an option my Sony files are so much easier to work with compared to Canon.
Thankfully this 80D is a step in the right direction. If their FF cameras are more competitive I may switch to Canon in future.
bovverwonder: Wow the the a6300's 3200 ISO is comparable to Fujifilm X-PRO 2's ISO 12800. X-PRO 2 has the best APS-C sensor at the moment. It's that stupid good.
I am a Sony user and that link clearly shows the Fuji is retaining better detail at high ISO.
That said upto ISO 6400 the differences aren't that high to make one greatly better than the other.
And the A6300 is a much cheaper camera than the Xpro-2 with better AF, better video and in a much smaller package.
adengappasami: how heavy is this..should i join a gym or can i skip
^^ Those are a lot of assumptions. The Canon 24-70mm f2.8 is a stellar lens and much much cheaper to boot. The Canon 70-200mm f2.8 is also much much cheaper and while not as long as the the Leica is a fantastic lens and is f2.8 all the way.
As much as I don't get Leica I still believe their range-finder system gives a unique experience not available in a modern DSLR but I don't get this camera. It has no real advantage over a DSLR except in show off appeal.
dash2k8: I loved my A7s and A7s2 but hated the position of the REC button. Now the a6300 continues the awkward placement (for me, anyway). Would it kill Sony to put it on the back?
It will never happen again. It was a long standing demand to move the movie button and recess it to avoid accidental presses. It used to drive me nuts on my old A55.
So after lots of petitions and complaints Sony moved it to the side and that is where its probably going to stay unless more and more people buy these cameras for video only. On the A7s and A7s II though Sony should move the button to a more prominent locations since those are purely video focused cameras.