GabrielZ: Only a Silver award then. A little surprised by that. I think its that old-hat sensor, the same as the original E-M5 I think, together with its relatively high price compared to the competition, that's influenced the reviewers here maybe?
Very likely. When the original OMD came out the 16 MP sensor was a game changer. The competition was the 16 MP Sony sensor and the Canon 18 MP sensors.
However now the competition has progressed and Nikon have 24 MP Toshiba and Sony sensors that have performed better than the 16 MP Sony sensor in all aspects.
At its $1099 price point it has to compete with the Nikon D7200 which has superb AF and tracking abilities along with a much larger selection of lenses and it costs just $100 more.
The other competition includes the K3 (which is now much cheaper but has a better sensor along with other features), the Sony A77 II which again has a larger lens selection and a better sensor.
In the mirrorless space the Sony A6000 is a lot cheaper and also has a better sensor and the Fuji XE2 may lack the tracking AF of the OMD but also offers a better sensor and higher IQ for the same price.
mugupo: Wait till Sony A7000 which just around the corner, it will likely put this camera to shame. with EVF and better video function.
Why compare a presently available camera with a mythical camera ? :P
This is the sort of camera that mirrorless is all about. Good IQ in a very small compact body with small compact lenses too.
Sony and Fuji offer better IQ especially the A7 but those aren't terribly small anymore once you factor in the lenses.
ProfHankD: I have nothing against front-mounted converters (well, maybe a little), but DOES THE LENS MODIFY THE FOCAL LENGTH IT REPORTS TO THE CAMERA?
If not, these adapters will mess with IBIS in the A7II and any future Sony bodies with IBIS....
^^ Its plain text so google translate will easily translate that to English. :)
zakaria: Things are changed quickly.from now to the time releasei ncluding /technolgy+prices+moods+market..etc/ so if we are talking about a camera will be released after 7 monthes i thik we may look at the new technolgy not what are available at this moment. it may be need some dreams. my dream camera is k mount with k3 body and a new 50 mp sensor a new metering system..a big bright VF +5 frames /second is good enough may be four frames not too bad .2000 $ to 2300 is good price for me.
Its quite obvious things aren't so simple when you are comparing full frame sensors and APS-C sensors.
If Sony with its A7r and no flapping mirror and Nikon with its latest D810 can't do more than 5 fps at full res there is something definitely amiss. Can't compare the A77 having 12 fps considering that the Sony A99 can do just 6 fps even though it too has just a 24 MP sensor.
So there is something definitely in play at this level. Not an engineer so can't give any concrete info but the evidence suggests there is something more to it that just megpixels.
^^ Ok fine the D800 was launched less than a year back and it can't do more than 5 fps at full res. Why do you think Nikon is hobbling the performance of the D810 if its possible to go even faster ?
First review of the lens - http://pantip.com/topic/33342872/desktop
And it seems somehow Sony knows which adapter is on the lens ! :P
Maybe magic ?
^^ It is useful in some occasions for some photos.
If Pentax makes a camera like what everyone else haves then why would a new person choose that over what is currently available ?
They need something new that no one else offers or cannot offer due to cannibalization of their higher end cameras like the 1Dx or D4.
@Barry - The D810 can achieve 7 fps only in reduced resolution mode with a battery grip. At 36 MP res it is only capable of upto 5 fps regardless of using a battery grip or not.
bill bull: sharpness look good and all that. however, it's way to pricy.
^^ I haven't tried using it on a Sony body. My friend used it on his 5d mk 3.
It fails in a very specific situation so its higly possible no one has noticed the issue before.
Another friend who uses a 35mm f1.4 told me his copy was fine but when I tried it on his camera it gave me the same issue.
In any case my point is 3rd party is no guarantee of working. Not saying first party is always better but your chances of getting something that will work perfectly are far higher.
You have got to understand that 3rd party lenses have compatibility issues. Some at the start and some in future.
Sigma had a major issue when Sony launched their SLT line of cameras where most Sigma lenses stopped working.
After Sigma fixed a few lenses by paying one way shipping they had another issue with Sony updated the mount.
So honestly paying $900 for a lens that may fail you in future is IMO not worth it.
My friend went through 5 Sigma 35mm f1.4 lenses to try and find a perfectly working copy but they all had some AF issue at infinity focus at f1.4.
Stopped down the DOF is large enough not to notice but wide open it was off.
Ultimately he had to pony up more cash for the optically inferior Canon version but at least that lens works perfectly.
Not really Sony has no competition in this market so they are milking their customers. That said this lens is priced around the same as the 35mm f1.4 L and the Nikon 35mm f1.4 G.
Don't compare it with the Sigma 35mm f1.4 since that is a third party lens and comes with its own set of problems
dcolak: If anyone tells me Full Frame is better than a modern APS-C I'll laugh in his face. This image is awful. What´s going on?
If anybody tells me crop is better than full frame by just looking at one image and not shooting himself ill laugh in his face !
I would have considered buying the UWA converter IF it had a filter thread. No filter thread no buy ! :)
^^ You will be shocked to know that with all manufacturers sometimes small things like slip through the quality control testing and the result is a firmware upgrade to fix the issue.
There is electronic coupling whatsoever between the adapter and the lens so the chances of anything being communicated is practically impossible.
However I wouldn't worry. 21mm and 28mm aren't really focal lengths that require IS and I doubt there will be any significant effect with the IS system not knowing its shooting with a 21mm FOV.
ethanolson: If Nikon could get their abominable CA/fringe under control with this lens, I'd much prefer it. It has better light gathering, better contrast, and because of the improved contrast it has better perceived sharpness. It's just the CA/fringe is more than twice as "big" as compared to the Tamron. It really shows what updated lens design can do to control such things.
Oh... and the sunburst flare on the Nikon really is to my style. I liked it a lot. If somebody gave me the Nikon, I might sell in favor of the Tamron, but it would depend on how well I could control the CA/fringe in software.
I don't think those who have a huge budget would settle for the Tamron.
But people who have to think three times if they want to spend on the Nikon 14-24mm and if they don't use filters then they might think of the Tamron.
cgarrard: Might be nice to see a few budget primes for this lineup too, get people into the system with less outlay.
An aggressive announcement regardless, and showing strength for the FE system.
Honestly its not too difficult to design good quality budget stuff.
Some time back Sony made 3 lenses - 35mm f1.8, 50mm f1.8 and a 85mm f2.8.
You could get all of those lenses for barely $550 or so and all of them were optical gems.
So while manufacturers can make them I suppose they would rather design more expensive lenses which allow them to earn bigger margins.
As it is cellphone cameras are eating up into the DSLR and mirrorless market.
Stephen787: Sigma makes lens for all three type of mounts. Canon, nikon and sony. Why would they not make an 3 different adapter for mirrorless that can use all their lenses. Meaning FE mounts using their adapters can use all their lenses at full speed. Why are they not doing this?
The mirrorless camera lenses use a contrast detect AF system and those lenses use different types of motors. Same with the Sigma ART lenses which use different motors to AF as they are used on DSLRs with phase detect system.
Even Canon is unable to make their DSLR lenses focus fast on their mirrorless bodies. So if Canon can't do it for their own system Sigma won't be able to do it over multiple systems.
vscd: With getting longer than the "normal" sweet spot of focal ranges between 28 and 50mm the lenses are eating up pretty much of the mirrorless-sizeadvantage. But it's nice to see the lensrange is growing for the A7 models. Price is too high, somehow.
VSCD - I am willing to bet you don't use any modern EVF for more than a few minutes.
I used to hate EVFs but I couldn't afford to shift systems and so I bought a gen 1 EVF camera. I am so used to EVFs now that I don't like using OVFs anymore.
Once you get used to the EVFs advantages you feel shooting with an OVF is a handicap.
The only real place an OVF handily beats an EVF is during AF tracking. But thats a very niche shot for most of us.
El Chubasco: Nice system, certainly impressive. Would be tempted to buy this camera if its interface did not feel like a playstation.
Actually his comment was very valid 3 years ago. I used a Sony NEX7 and I found the interface simply horrendous ! It just made no logical sense to me.
Thankfully Sony has moved away from that and all new cameras have a newer interface that is far far better. I would put the Canon and Sony interface in the same boat.
The Nikon interface should be good but I am biased in that regard since Sony and Canon have a reasonably similar interface system while Nikon is very different and I am not used to it.