Fotogeneticist: Until an EVF has the same refresh rate and dynamic range that matches my eye, it will never replace OVFs for me. What does an EVF give me except for battery drain and shadows you can't see into? And to the poster that said an EVF needs 2MP to out-resolve an OVF, if you out resolve what your eye can see anyways, what good would that do?
For dark scenes I use the LCD to compose. Don't find using the EVF or OVF very convinient when the cam is on a tripod at anything other than eye level. Thats where a vari angle LCD comes in very handy.
And I prefer an EVF for boosted sensitivity any day in low light compared to an OVF. I generally shoot with a friend and he packs up at least half an hour earlier than me since he can't see squat in his OVF but my EVF can still make out 'some' detail.
I am not a huge fan of EVFs but I must admit now that Sony has forced me to exclusively use EVFs I have kinda grown accustomed to their advantages.
I used a friends A900 (100% FF OVF) and it didn't WOW me like it used to earlier since its about as big as the EVF in my $550 A37.
Also stuff like focus peaking, accurate exposure and even focus magnification have all blunted my initial dislike for EVFs.
That said EVFs are definitely not the best option for tracking subjects. Sure a skilled person could do it but its definitely not so easy with a EVF.
RubberDials: 'The lens will also be available for Sony NEX cameras.'
How many X-pro users are there? You mean: 'The lens will also be available for the Fuji X-Pro 1. '
Considering the Sony Zeiss 24mm f1.8 lens is practically out of stock most of the time I would wager a lot of Sony users would buy these Zeiss lenses.
Tim in upstate NY: Hasselblad is trying to survive the impending demise of MF. Can't blame them for trying.
You will be surprised to know that a lot of studio photographers still use MF a LOT and that that doesn't look likely to change in the future.
D1N0: So Hasselblad is now a sony brand? sort of the Lexus where Sony is Nissan?
Its a partnership not a takeover. Basically what we can expect is a few Hasselblad branded Sony products at a much higher price. :P
Sony gets some good PR for collaborating with a high end brand like Hasselblad and Hasselblad gets more $$$ by selling some heavily overpriced products which will be made in limited quantity. :P
Auke B van der Weide: if it cant break and lasts for 50years, it is pretty cheap.... and shooting with Leica, is shooting with restrictions (more fun) and with upper quality (very bright lenses (no distortion), solid body, no mirrors or autofocus to break)..... and ofcourse a lot of branding which is good for poor man's identity!
Exactly ! A sensor cannot last very long and there are plenty of electronics that can fail like the LCD, processor etc. I can understand paying extra for a precision built mechanical rangefinder camera but not for an electronic one. Once Sony launches its FF NEX I can see a good price drop for Leica on the cards.
For a few clicks more: To the people who are extremely offended and frustrated by this new product for whatever reason: Are you all going to sue Canon ? What an anger of those people. Unbelievable.
^^ How do you know how much either of them makes in a year ? For all we know snooked123 could be Bill Gates Dpreview ID. :P
mais51: After the disapointment with the crippled D600 Canon just gives me a very good reason to stay with Nikon - compared with the 6D, Nikon D600 is miles better, suddently Nikon D600 becomes so attractive - I'll still hanging out for a D400/D300X, if I go FF then it will be D800E
Dpreview made a mistake on the specs (don't like to point out flaws of this otherwise fine site but lately there have been tons of mistakes on each and every news article).
The max shutter speed of the 6D is 1/4000 only. So its the same as the D600.
@Superka - Do you have any proof to back your outlandish statement ?
Edmond Leung: Canon needs to do more.Unless this 6D has real superior image quality; how does this 6D compete with D600? Specifications and price are all behind D600, the only advantage of this camera is made in Japan.
Frankly speaking this is a fine camera as long as you don't wish to do action shooting. For genres like landscape, macro and a few more fast AF is not necessary and the IQ of this camera should be great unless Canon really screws something up.
Lens selection and availability also plays a huge part in staying in a camera system.
For instance Canon's excellent 100-400mm L lens has no equal in the Nikon camp.
Similarly as on date Canon has no answer to the Nikon 105 DC and the 135 DC lenses from Nikon (just to name a few).
Michael Todd: "To distinguish it from the more expensive 5D Mark III, the 6D features a simpler, 11-point AF system with a single cross-type focus sensor." Rubbish. Back to only focusing with the center AF point? I always said the 40D/50D had better AF than the 5D 2, now the 6D has joined the substandard AF club.
Great ! All of Nikon's FF bodies have capable AF systems (39 AF with 9 cross for D600 and 51 AF with 15 cross for D800) with good tracking capabilities and now even Sony has joined the club with their 19 AF (11 cross points) supported with 102 AF line AF sensor on the main camera sensor.
It seems Canon has decided its customers don't require such opulence and should be happy with a single cross AF point.
rhlpetrus: DPR: why include the 5D3 in the comparison table? It makes as much sense as including the D800. It's like comparing the D300s to the D3200, or the 7D and the 600D. Leave just the D600 and the 6D, they are the competitors, for people to compare (and also you to add the colors to the boxes. It's obvious that the 5D3 will get most of the pluses, as would the D800.
Snother point: if the 5D3's high ISO performance is any indication, the high ISO of the 6D should not be considered "better" than that of the D600, just because Canon uses a very lax criterion for establishing the üsual range".
^^ Aside from the AF system, there is also the 100% viewfinder on the 5D MK III and the complete magnesium alloy body.
Piotr Wybieralski: Is my 10-22 EF-S lens work with this body?
^^ Actually Nikon and Sony APS-C lenses work perfectly on FF bodies in a crop mode. You will get around 12 MP with a D600 or A99 body and 16 MP with a D800.
So he must have thought that Canon also supported the same feature considering the only 2 other FF camera manufacturers support it.
There is practically no difference between this and the MK II. Quite surprising a bit disappointing for Canon. Hopefully the price is < $2000.
DPReview007: Could somebody please explain why Sony didn’t include a built-in flash?
Please no smartass comments about the camera’s low-light performance. One may want to use a flash for all sorts of reasons, and one may not want to carry one around at all times.
Its so that they can sell the Sony F20AM flash and make some money. :P
Francis Carver: DP REVIEW SEZ: "discussing whether we think the world is ready for a $2800 full frame, fixed-lens camera."
SHORT ANSWER: No, the world is probably not quite ready for a $2,800 fixed lens camera.
The world may be more intimately ready for the $2,100 Nikon D600 camera, or even for the $2,800 Sony Alpha 99 camera. Just not for a $2,800 CyberShot.
Once you see the size differences this camera seems even nicer for people who need such a device.
Here is a size comparison with one of the smallest FF DSLR/DSLT cameras in the world - http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/14/amazon-selling-sony-rx1-nex-6-and-alpha-a99/
Cytokine: Why only 1/2000? Otherwise a dream camera! And at that price that is all it will be.
I did a quick check and I touched 1/4000 on my 1/8000 capable camera only twice in the last 3 years. Unless you are shooting at f1.4 on a bright sunny day (and where I live there is no dearth of sun) you won't need 1/4000 at all.
However I have felt the need for a faster flash sync (max flash sync is around 1/200 - 1/300 for most cameras) VERY often and with the RX1 you can use an external flash safely upto 1/2000.
So the advantages far outweigh the disadvantage.
Sephirotic: Sony allways have some interesting products. But their almost allways have a ridiculous price range. I'm out of this one too.
Actually I thought like you till I realized that this is a Zeiss branded full frame lens and not some run of the mill lens.The Zeiss ZM manual focus lens costs a cool $1100 brand new and this one has AF as well. So the body only price of this cam is definitely below $1999 which makes it reasonably priced.
Mannypr: The mayority of the people that will use this camera will most likely be shooting JPG's .
And you know this how ? All DSLR users I know shoot RAW exclusively or at least RAW+JPEG.
The only JPEG shooters I know off use entry level cameras or P&S cameras. This is a $899 camera and a definite step up from entry level.
Edgar_in_Indy: Why does Tamron hate Pentax these days? You could say that Pentax doesn't need this lens since Pentax has in-camera IS, but Sony also has built-in IS. Tamron seems to have made it a policy to not release any of their new designs in Pentax mount.
Well Tokina did launch their most popular 11-16mm in Sony mount.
Frankly none of the other Tokina lenses aside from the 12-24mm are really interesting to the Sony user.
Jan Kritzinger: My only complaint is that the lens is slightly bulky for the body form factor - give us a 23/2.8 APS-C RX10 the size of the RX100, for $1k! Come on Sony, Do it!
@Jack - For what its worth, Sony has been reducing its propriety nature for some time now. For instance the data cable was some propriety s%$t that was used by Minolta.
It was with a big surprise that I found a standard mini USB cable bundled with my new A55. It was even more strange since Sony was only making money selling these propriety cables. Now I will buy a local brand mini USB rather than spend more $$$ for the Sony branded version.
Similarly they have moved to the standard hotshoe. Now many third party manufacturers may start releasing ISO mount flashes for Sony.