Zeisschen: You know your company has done a tremendous job when you read so many butthurt comments on dpreview section...
Kudos to Sony for being the biggest and most constant challenger and innovator in the camera market since 5 years! The camera world would be boring without you!
a) I actually shoot Sony, have upgraded my camera but still use uncompressed RAW cause I can't see any difference in my photos.
b) I actually use my camera to take photos some of which you can see in my profile and while I am not great by any stretch of imagination I actually have some photos to show including a website.
c) You on the other hand suffer from verbal diarrhoea and are happy to spew complete rubbish without even giving too hoots to providing some empirical evidence to back up your tall claims which puts you firmly in the troll category.
If compressed RAW is limiting your photographic abilities you need to reassess your competence as a photographer.
brendon1000: Very happy Sony updated my camera. Though I still haven't bothered with uncompressed raw yet as the file sizes are too big. But I like using Canon lenses on my camera.
The lenses do fail from time to time but when it works it focuses very fast. Even indoors
Good point. I was getting crappy results with AF-S but then I tried AF-C and I was impressed
Very happy Sony updated my camera. Though I still haven't bothered with uncompressed raw yet as the file sizes are too big. But I like using Canon lenses on my camera.
neatpicture: Well I have been saying all along. Samsung is a market exploiter, I only get disposable electronics from this brand. I was laughing away when people took this brand seriously when the NX1 came out, as taking over the photography market. Saving from the German market obviously is more valuable than their reputation and loyalty. SO Samsung style, and I cannot believe so many did not see this coming.
Considering they are a on a roll right now I don't think that is going to happen. They are one of the few really innovative companies out there along with Samsung and Olympus.
Daft Punk: The only thing i will say is this.
For those people poking fun at Samsung or generally disrespecting their gear, know this; the NX1 is probably one of the finest cameras ever made. In terms of engineering, feature set, technology and performance it is better on balance than ANY Canon or Nikon ever made in APSC.
In many respects it is better than FF offerings too.
We should pause and think about that. Think about what a shame it is that Samsung may be baling out. And think about how lazy Canon and Nikon have become.
The NX1 is that good. We should not forget that.
What rubbish. You can easily well gear anytime you want and switch. The market is now big enough to not be a problem switching gears.
For Pros it is even more important to use whatever is latest.
I know a few interior photographers who used a Nikon D810 with a 14-24mm lens. Now they have shifted to Canon 5dr with a 11-24mm lens.
Wedding guys have now shifted to Sony due to the A7r II supporting video and photography.
The Canon and Nikon budget cameras are some of the least competitive models out there.
meanwhile: The least expensive of the M bodies is kinda the A7.
The Sony A7 is a pretty nice camera and I use it but it's not a great Leica camera. The adapted Leica lenses don't perform too well on the Sony especially the corners which on many lenses are downright mushy.
art99: How about making it FF mirrorless with super super low light sensitivity and accepting all present Nikon lenses with full functionality. ?
I seriously doubt that. Mirrorless even today with dedicated mirrorless lenses can't keep up with even semi pro apsc DSLR cameras in AF tracking. I doubt Nikon will be able to do anything different with lenses built for Pdaf especially since their main strength over mirrorless cameras is the tracking AF which currently no mirrorless can match.
ybizzle: I'll stick with my 1938 full frame Leica IIIa mirrorless interchangeable lens camera. Fits in my pocket with the collapsible 50mm Summar lens. What a beauty!
Great ! So that must mean I can get it for between $500 - $800.
steelhead3: For the crowd that this camera is designed, the AF module is much to complicated for beginning photographers to take advantage of it
The Nikon 1 series has a better AF system but is targeted at beginners too.
The Sony A mount cameras are very simple to use which isn't very nice for seasoned users but for beginners its pretty simple with fluff like face detect, smile detect etc.
kape06111: DO not understand this. It would make more sense without the Translucent Mirror IMHO.Nevertheless good news for the A-mount users.
^^ Unfortunately you are referring to two different focusing mechanisms.
The A7r2 is a mirrorless camera and mirrorless lenses use a contrast based AF technology.
The A68 is essentially a DSLR and lenses use phase detect.
Now the A7r2 has done a wonderful job supporting AF with A mount lenses BUT its still not as good as a dedicated A mount camera like the A99 which is pretty old tech by now.
Also the A7r2 cannot focus with screw driven lenses just yet. And Sony has plenty of screw driven lenses in its A mount line up including the Zeiss 85mm f1.4 and the Zeiss 135mm f1.8
The Squire: Very disappointing! I had hoped this might be a nice mid-range model to make me want to stick with a-mount.
But after this and the modest A77ii refresh, it seems like Sony is under investing in a-mount and making the same mistakes they were making 5 years ago... No 4k? No 'proper' rear dial. A return of the shiny plastic. C'mon. Is this from the guys that designed the A300 series? Didn't you sack them?
And this is to be released in March? It's already old technology. By 2016 it won't look out of place in a museum.
Well done Sony marketing, you've made me want to go and spend £2000+ on a new A7 series instead. Bravo.
You can consider the A77 II then for just a little more.
Introducing a mid end model would make little sense when the A77 II is already available for around $900.
hotdog321: I genuinely wonder why there is such an emotional attachment to mirrorless cameras, and the Sony a7RII in particular. The a7RII appears superb on paper and in leisurely situations, but clearly isn't "there" yet for action and for most pro usage. The overheated rhetoric is more akin to a religion or favored sports team than a reasoned discussion.
Folks, trust me. If and when mirrorless cameras surpass DSLR bodies for pro still photographers, we will be the first to dump the old Rube Goldberg DSLR and grab a mirrorless body.
JunzInc - The Nikon D4s is a fantastic sports camera but I would never take such a camera for weddings or landscapes as its simply too big or lacks the megapixels required to shoot.
If you need one camera to do everything then maybe a DSLR is your best bet but I believe different tools for different requirements is the best option for a pro.
My friends use a 5d mk 3 for wedding photography but switch to a Sony A7s for video work during the wedding as that is a better tool.
Though now with the A7rII they have replaced both the 5d mk 3 and the A7s for a convergent solution. They find the A7rII with its eye focus results in far more still photos in perfect focus than what their 5d mk 3 used to give.
The same guys also used to shoot interiors with a Nikon D810 with a 14-24mm lens but have now switched to a Canon 5dr with a 11-24mm lens as it offers an even wider perspective and they don't need 14mm. So different tools for different requirements.
^^ Not saying I disagree with the large mirrorless hype going on but you got your answer for 'most pro situations' based sorely on a sports photography article ? :P
Sports is a small genre of pro photography. The A7rII makes an excellent studio camera or even for other genres like weddings, portraiture, close up photography,architectural photography etc where there is no real requirement for fast AF tracking.
For genres like wildlife, sports and birding I doubt anyone would shooting those will be thrilled to shoot exclusively with a mirrorless camera considering tracking is still very much a DSLR strength.
Angrymagpie: I guess people are now accepting the idea that a 2-year-old camera is too old to deserve firmware update supports. Bye first gen Sony A7 series, time to replace you with the A7R Mk.II which I'd need to replace in two years time.
^^ Thats one model. The earlier flagship the EM5 has got nothing at all.
And Sony too has updated the A6000 which got the new XAVCs codec and now the A7 II with a major feature enhancement.
Unfortunately its just Fujifilm. No one else seems to be that bothered about its customers. :(
That said you are putting a negative spin on a positive news article. You bought the A7 knowing fully well its plus points and minus points and during its run time Sony did improve its performance a bit. This firmware upgrade for the A7 II was expected just to fix the uncompressed RAW option but they added a much bigger bonus.
Thematic: Makes zero sence.
The a7rmk2 isn't a marketed as a sports camera by Sony. It fantastic but this isn't is intended purpose.
Be like test driving a convertible during a rainy Seattle day.
Ramjager - Its disgraceful that you have such strong comments when you don't have any idea that this isn't a DSLR.
This camera isn't a DSLR, it isn't marketed for sports shooters and mirrorless cameras aren't known for tracking ability. So this article is just to know how good or bad it is when shooting outside of its comfort zone
MAubrey: I have a feeling they're not going to implement this in the original A7...highly disappointing.
^^ The camera is still being sold even on big stores like bhphoto and amazon. But its basically getting rid of older stock. Production has stopped for the camera.
osan: Moral of the story is; By making cameras smaller without the supporting/functioning glass shouldn't be hailed as breakthrough. Depending on countless third-party adapters and glass from a major competitor and so on shouldn't be called a camera system. Sony might get there in the end but others will not be sitting idle either.
So what you are saying is basically that no camera company should ever launch a new system without having 50 + lenses at launch ?
This isn't marketed as a sports camera and people buying this exclusively for sports know what they are getting themselves into.
There is a point. Sports is of course a very extreme scenario but people might use this camera to shoot something like a college basketball game or a soccer game where there is a lot of movement. Its not a cheap camera in any case.