peevee1: OK, could you predict that Samsung will be the second mirrorless system which acquires the essential pro zoom doublet? And m43 will get the doublet TWICE (from both Pana and now Oly) before Sony, Fuji, Nikon, Canon do it?Sony got sidetracked with all that useless FE adventure, where every lens has to include that missing flange distance...
DOF wise they will be similar when comparing FF and APS-C and since FF has at least a one stop advantage of APS-C in IQ, the similarities will be quite stark.
Chaitanya S: If I remember correctly, Canon was going to abandon the 7D name in future. Specs are really good, I would like to read how the sensor on this one performs compared to 70D. If there is a noticeable improvement I wouldn't mind getting this one over the 70D.
I will be happy to be proven wrong but I seriously doubt this is anything other than a tweaked 70D sensor.
Ah I don't shoot events so don't care for fast AF. For professional work I would take a DSLR over a mirrorless camera.
Perhaps but its still better than an APS-C sensor at least. Especially a pixel dense one like on this Samsung.
Lab D: First I read this and then I saw the new Samsung. I don't know anyone who buys Samsung, but it seems to beat the 7D in every spec.For example 10 FPS is not exciting when others are offering 11,12 and 15 FPS. "Full HD" video is boring when other shoot 4K.I just hope the 7D does use the same technology in this new sensor as found in the Rebel T2i.
@tbclass - I am a Sony shooter like you but lets be honest Sony does not have any strength in tracking. Everything else however - IQ, single shot AF etc the A77 II should be very competitive.
Anastigmat: Does the market still exist for a high end APS-C model costing almost 2000 dollars in 2014?
I am sure the Canon 7D mk 2 sales will prove that it does.
Not saying I am happy about it but plenty of people were waiting for such a camera mostly for birding, wildlife and sports.
The 1DX doesn't have the reach the 7D does so those on a budget will prefer the 7D.
I am no Canon fan but the tracking abilities of the 7D will far outdo any mirrorless camera or even a DSLT camera (Sony).
IQ wise however the Samsung may be better but the Canon has far more lenses available to it.
rambarra: no 4k video? what a joke
Why joke ? How many DSLRs have 4k today ? The answer is zero.
I seriously doubt there is any substantial difference. Maybe some minor tweaks at best.
I would take a Sony A7r with 70-200mm f4 OSS lens over the Samsung combo anyday. It would be cheaper and with a FF sensor I would expect better IQ as well.
brendon1000: As a Sony user I am happy more and more manufacturers are getting on the Vari angle LCD bandwagon. Those who don't need it can keep it in the default position and those (like me!) who love using such a feature is free to use it to our hearts content.
Nikon needs something like the dual AF pixel tech from Canon to take full advantage of the vari angle LCD though IMO.
A few posts below someone mentioned the RAW buffer as 12. Don't know if that is true but I seriously hope not given the D610 has a much larger buffer.
The Canon dual pixel AF is very very good. I used it on the 70D and was impressed.
A friend uses the D610. Says he gets around 20 12 bit NEF files in a single burst
tkbslc: I am pretty sure it would cost more to put together a high end kit from Fuji than it would a FF kit from Nikon, Sony or Canon. I can't think of any APS-C lenses that cost more than these two.
^^ Yes but which combo do you think will offer better IQ ?
Harry S: There seems to be an automatic assumption that everyone buys into mirrorless because it's smaller, therefore lenses like this are pointless.
I would guess many of these people have not stopped to think there may be a whole host of other reasons why somebody owns a mirrorless camera, of which size may just be a small part of. Even taking size into account, you can still have a very compact system when required (i.e. X-E2/35mm 1.4), but that doesn't discount bigger lenses like this, particuarly as there are a lot of pros using Fuji X gear now, particuarly for weddings.
Even with this lens in their bag, an X-T1, this, and a bunch of the X primes is still going to be significantly lighter and smaller than a DSLR setup.
I personally shoot with a Sony a7, size isn't on my radar at all, in fact I bolt a big LA-EA4 adaptor on it and use a Sigma 35 1.4 and Zeiss 135 1.8.
Don't agree with you on FF. I am a crop shooter but I have shot FF on occasion. The results to me are that FF is simply better in almost every aspect. Not so much if you need more DOF but otherwise I find per pixel sharpness much better and high ISO performance at least 1.5 - 2 stops better.
As a Sony user I am happy more and more manufacturers are getting on the Vari angle LCD bandwagon. Those who don't need it can keep it in the default position and those (like me!) who love using such a feature is free to use it to our hearts content.
yslee1: Just tried the D750 at a media event. Raw buffer depth is 12.
Thats it ??? That sucks !
Don't club all mirrorless and Fuji in the same bracket. A Sony A5100 + 16-50mm OSS lens is significantly smaller and lighter than even a budget DSLR.
Similar for Olympus and Panasonic cameras though they use smaller sensors.
aramgrg: Seems like fuji is going to supply the rest of its cameras with the same sensor. It reminds the 18mp aps-c canon :)
Its not great. Canon has a very good noise reduction algorithm that can smear away detail. If you shoot RAW and process you will get better results at high ISO with most of the Nikon APS-C sensors.
And if you take Dynamic range into the picture then Canon is far behind anything current.
The key difference is that the 18 MP sensor of Canon is pretty much behind the competition. The 16 MP X-Trans sensor offers class leading ISO performance among APS-C sensors even today. It only loses out on resolution but thanks to the lack of an AA filter it can easily compete with 20 MP Bayer sensors in resolution today.
LiOm Photography: so its bigger than a canon 70-200 f4 and has a bigger filter thread AND its more expensive??I remember how critical people were of the pana 35-100...theyre gonna have a field day with this one
Its an f2.8 lens. The Canon 70-200mm f4 is an f4 lens. Compare this lens with something like the Sigma 50-150mm f2.8 OS