CreeDo: Maybe this is crazy talk but, why is all of this useful functionality being provided by a third party and not by sony themselves?
I mean sony has the knowhow and tech to make a metabones-like adapter, except sony could probably do it easier because they don't have to reverse engineer their own stuff. And they probably already have reverse engineered canon stuff before.
Could they legally make a camera whose mount (without any adapter) fits canon lenses, as well as their own? Sort of like how one mount can attach both EF and EF-S lenses?
If not, could they just do what metabones is doing, but better?
^^ Unfortunately your thinking is more utopian. Its exactly why Canon and NIkon refuse to release their entire mount specs to third party people like Tamron and Sigma which is why many of those lenses face AF issues.
Since Canon doesn't release their mount specs Sony can't really make a 100% working adapter.
Old Minolta Guy: One could argue sticking with Canon lenses is a better option for A7x owners. Larger selection, better pricing, more support, and they work on multiple systems. With used (more affordable) copies are more prevalent too. Canon has better professional support and a larger infrastructure (more accessories, better flash support, and so on), so I can see those who sticking with Canon for a main/pro camera and going with an A7Rii for their 'private use' camera.If Canon releases a compettive mirrorless body in the near future switch back and forth would be easy. I am in a similar situation with A mount and E mount. But ironically Canon lenses have better support with E mount bodies than do my A mount screw drive lenses.
For very basic amateur use adapters are fine. For pro use or for really discerning amateurs its a horrible option.
Adapters are problematic very often. My Sony A mount adapter broke when I was shooting with friends in Thailand and because of that 3 lenses I carried couldn't work any longer on my camera. I lost a fairly good amount of photos because one broken adapter ensured 3 of my 4 lenses didn't work !
Lensrentals also have reported very high failure rates with even Metabones adapters. Users of cheaper adapters will probably have much worse results.
Sony can also pay you millions of dollars for you to use their cameras but that is about as unlikely as they making an adapter that will badly affect their own lens sales ! :P
Xentinus: In short;we still have to buy native,expensive Sony lenses to be able to use sophisticated AF system of Sony.I can't blame them,but beside old Minolta lenses,even their SLT cameras don't have relatively cheap lenses like Nikon 85mm 1.8 G (or Canon counterpart),Canon 100mm 2.0,Nikon 70-300 G,Canon 55-250 STM etc.It would have been really nice,making videos with 85mm at 1.8 or at 300 mm.I know;some people,who have never tried Sony's really cool AF on videos,will say "video=manual focus"...
The E mount of course lacks good cheap lenses sure. But A mount ? Not really
There were plenty of 3rd party lenses to use and on Sony those were image stabilised ! So a lens like the Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 got VC on Sony which was awesome.
Michael MacGillivray: While silliness at Leica is hardly news, must DP Review report on it?
Its still a camera brand and one of the oldest camera brands at that. So why not ?
Marksphoto: they need one for fuji, then it will kill the sales of the fuji 90mm 2.0 with the excellent canon 85mm 1.8 being available used on craigslist from $200
The Canon 85mm f1.8 is a pretty old optic while the Fuji 90mm f2 is probably the sharpest and best performing Fuji lens out there which when considering most Fuji lenses are stellar performers. So if you want quality people will have to pay for it.
drgarym: Same sensor as Pentax 645 but how about image quality?
@PaulTheimager - This is a mirrorless camera which means theoretically you can adopt a ton of old lenses. If you have a lot of old MF lenses this could be like adding a digital back for relatively cheap.
King of Song: Actually without reading any of the routine negative syndical comments, I instantly love this thing.
The only drawback for me is the speed of the lenses. Unless you are doing studio or landscape, most of the benefits of the large sensor will be lost by having to increase ISO by 2 or 3 stops in order compensate for the small aperture, in order to shoot environmental shots in the shade or subdued light.
^^ Thats like saying earlier cars did maximum 30 kmph and now people want Ferraris ! :P
Technology progresses and its innovators who ask why NOT who drive them forward. People used to crib that there were no f2 lenses till Sigma showed them that you can make f2 lenses that didn't weigh a ton and were optically good.
Considering this is Hasselblad and not Sony IQ would be top priority. But the real difference is that Pentax has a proper shutter while Hasselblad uses lens based leaf shutters. Leaf shutters can't go higher than 1/2000 shutter speed but also allow full flash power at even 1/2000 which makes it awesome for outdoor portraits.
However because it relies on lens based leaf shutters it also means you can't adapt too many different lenses as the lenses will have to have a shutter built in.
Random Photographer: One step closer to Sony releasing an alpha Medium Format for half that price. But bigger doesn't necessarily mean better.
^^ Yeah but Sony makes those sensors and sells for a profit. So they could maybe reduce the cost and make a MF camera for say $5500 and make profit on the lenses maybe.
If they start selling and producing more sensors maybe they will start getting better yields and lowering their cost per sensor in future.
Pfft this is like a f32 lens on m43 and f44 on 1" format. Can't be useful
Frank_BR: This lens is like the Egyptian pyramids: beautiful to admire, zero utility.
^^ Heck no !!! I was having an off day and some of these comments made me chuckle so definitely they had some value ! :D
agentul: i red the specs twice, but couldn't see the number of AF points or the battery life. omitted?
What do you know. I did a google search for X1D AF points and your post was the top of the list ! :P
Chris Tsorotes: When it comes to the realms of software - Japanese companies are light years behind Silicon Valley, when it comes to hardware they are the masters without a doubt.
The ILC camera industry needs a disruptive player to come in with a professional grade body that uses an iPhone/Android type of model with applications and improvements.
Until then it seems like the current batch of companies are reluctantly moving into the modern era, dragging their feet. The Nikon D750 Wi-Fi debacle is a fine example of the current platers simply not getting it, fortunately for them there really isnt any serious competition out there.
Samsung had a great chance and stuffed it up, sadly the NX-1 looked like an awesome machine with a lot of potential.
@Melchiorum - Actually while Sony isn't the most open company out there they still have shed a lot of their non standard components like using only memory stick cards, having a standard micro USB charging port, having a standard hot shoe flash mount and a proper mini HDMI port.
If Apple takes on Sony they will probably launch a new A8 with Apple iCards which cost $300 for 64 GB, a lightning charging cable sold separately and a new flash system with a different mounting shoe and finally they will have different batteries for each model to ensure you keep buying batteries from Apple only.
dennis tennis: Rubbish, no fully articulating rear LCD, not pocketable, not Snapchat friendly, too heavy for my selfie stick.
PhotoUniverse - You had 2 options in front of you when reading dennis post - Option a) You didn't find it funny and simply ignored it or b) You didn't find it funny and decided let me be a big giant a**hole about it and tell him that !
And you decided hey the world doesn't have any douchebags let me add to them ! :P
kty: The prices for old medium format lenses are going to rise surely after this announcement.
And they were cheap enough as it is already. :P
Sunshine4784: Hope it is a mirrorless medium format camera. But the price should be lower than Pentax 645Z. More than 10,000 is meaningless for mirrorless MF.
To you maybe not but considering the Sony A7 series cameras are selling very well thankfully for Sony many buyers don't listen to you at all and still buy these cameras. :)
^^ You have zero facts to back up your case. If Sony sold so many cameras why aren't they challenging Canon and Nikon for top position in the ILC market ? Even in Japan where mirrorless sales are high compared to markets like USA they are still 3rd behind Canon and Nikon.
And do consider the cost of the Sony A7. Its the cheapest 35mm sensor camera available new today. Yes cheaper than the price of the 6D and D610 by a fair margin. Then look at the A6000 and see how it compares to Nikon and Canon cameras around $600.
So they do pass down costs to customers for cameras that don't use the latest tech. For those that do like the A7rII and A7sII then they have no competition and cutting edge tech is not cheap.
@Sunshine - You haven't considered economics of scale. DSLRs sell much more and so they can be cheaper to build purely because they build much much more.
nidri: Mirrorless Live View System Camera.44 x 33mm CMOS Sensor (Sony-sourced).New Lens Mount, but many (official) adapters available.Native (AF) Lenses will be made by Fujifilm. (Not sure if this will be publicly disclosed.)Same EVF as used in Leica SL. (Made by Epson.)
^^ It would be an 8-10k PENTAX Body. Add the Hassy name and multiply the price 3 times. :P
Of course to be fair Hassy bodies are built to much higher standards than your Pentax MF digital body.