Coyote_Cody: And yes pg 13, a DR test shows better for D750, but how come I can not play with that scene the same way as pg 12, seems maybe a bit 'cooked' from a reader's perspective - you can play but I can't ?
So once again I say "yes for a poor exposure/photographer the Sony/Nikon sensors allow correction of DR better" but then why did you shoot so poorly ?
I for one, will expose for both the light and dark areas of a pic, its easy try it, its photography 101 !
I also admit I like 'human eye' pics, ie - NON HDR looking pics - shadows are what would you call them - oh yes SHADOWS - which unless I am wrong are DARK !
So yes, Sony/Nikon are better cameras for lousy photographers (at least at exposure) but then wasn't film even worse in so many ways ?
Not jealous of Sony/Nikon sensors, but sad that Canon can not/does not keep up (6 yrs ago class leaders, now Sony/Nikon sensors followers) - but then many of the world's most beautiful pictures are NOT from Sony/Nikon sensors are they ?
No but Ansel adams did use the best available large format cameras during his time.
Honestly for most work you can't tell the difference between Canon and Nikon/Sony sensors BUT for a genre like landscape photography where DR is almost always an issue a Nikon camera or Sony camera makes so much more sense.
For almost any other genre you don't really gain any significant benefit shooting Nikon or Sony.
Sounds like a sad case of sour grapes.
I have used 3 systems in my work and Sony and Nikon is much superior for landscape work.
For other work however Canon is pretty good and can keep up with Sony or Nikon.
However once highlights are clipped on Canon sensors there is generally little you can recover without screwing up the colors.
proudfather: Anyone know what the widest lens available is for this camera?
I shoot with the 16-35 mm on a Canon 5dmkiii for landscapes and would need something comparable for the MF Pentax.
The widest lens AFAIK is a 25mm f2.8 which translates into 19.5mm on FF.
Not as wide or as versatile but you do get MF quality.
Sdaniella: 2014 FF Systems:Low End vs High End for good 'LOW' LIGHT
Canon EOS 6D vs Nikon D750 vs Nikon D4s vs Sony A7S
ISO 51200: (=Max ISO for D750)
DPR Comparison Widget Subject: Left-Side (dimly lit): JPEGS (RAW = Always worse)
For me: the IQ of D750 is very close to 5DMkIII, but behind 6DAnd I would never consider D810, nor A7/R/S, nor fixed prime RX1R (35mm too long)If Sony made a RX1R with a fast fixed 24mm prime (maybe: if it had a vari-angle swivel screen)
Least of all D610:it's the only new FF amongst those in the 12 that lacks the Exposure Simulation LV that the rest have.
James you really cracked me up !!!! I feel the same way but you summed it up beautifully ! Well done ! :D
stern: DPR says in its introduction to this article: "What follows is our enthusiast-level DSLR roundup. The cameras included all sport APS-C sensors and pull some pro-level features from their more-established counterparts."Well, this might hold true for the big two, but certainly not for Pentax. The Pentax K3 is in no way artificially crippled like her Canikon-counterparts. The only major "pro-feature pulled" from the K3 are the extra pixels (54 Mio.) of the rather expensive medium-format 645. Anyone wonder why so-called "full frame" sensors are smaller than "medium format"? Canikon have NO offer beyond "full frame". Full stop.
@TadekH - At $1000 and $900 for either I would pass for using such expensive lenses on an APS-C only system.
I would rather get the Sigma 35mm f1.4 and 85mm f1.4 and use it on a FF body if I was spending so much.
If size is a major concern then ill get a Fuji system. Smaller lenses and very good IQ.
Hi Stern. Comparing an old film camera to todays modern digital sensors is not correct. Its like comparing a V8 1970s Jaguar to a V6 Honda today.
Compare a modern APS-C camera to a modern FF camera and then come back and let me know your findings. I find FF cameras give me noticeably better output for my main business of weddings and also for shooting in the studio where the per pixel sharpness is amazing !
I don't like the perspective distortion caused by wide angle lenses on APS-C either. One more advantage of FF.
Sure medium format will be better but not for the type of shooting I do and it involves a very limited lens line up.
What great price are you referring to ? The Sigma 35mm f1.4 ART and 85mm f1.4 lenses cost about as much as a Pentax 31mm f1.8 and 77mm f1.8 which are slower and older optics.
This is just ONE example. You get a Nikon 85mm f1.8G and 35mm f1.8 lenses together for less than the price of the 77mm f1.8 alone.
And NO the upgrade path from APS-C is NOT medium format.
Medium format is a VERY restrictive system. No AF, very few lenses , prohibitively expensive etc etc.
Those who say APS-C is as good as FF are either kidding themselves or shoot at very small apertures anyways to diminish the advantages of FF.
However as an APS-C user who has started using FF I would never want to stick to using APS-C if I can afford FF.
True I don't like the size but ill probably get an A7 II which is smaller than most Pentax cameras but has a FF sensor.
deserthawk742: My Pentax K3 with the 3 classic limited lenses will easily beat all of the other cameras in this round up!
@BarnET - Thats a very sensible statement you made and I agree with you 100%. I don't need to shoot in rough weather but there are plenty of people out there who do wish to do that so for them the system works.
Everybody has different needs and requirements and there doesn't exist one system that does it all and will make everyone happy.
Exactly ! Pentax fanbois seem to think the world of their cameras and lenses while other systems are crap !
My friend used to think the same way and then he tried a Nikon system. Within 2 months he sold off all his Pentax gear and switched to Nikon.
Gazeomon: K3 is my favourite dlsr at this point, especially paired with ltd. pentax primes. It's a compact high quality kit I can take anywhere. Made me forget all my Nikon stuff.
Fakuru - Thats just 2 lenses you EXPENSIVE lenses you mentioned.
I can get a Canon 35mm f2 & Canon 85mm f1.8 for less than the price of a 77mm f1.8 lens !
And there is no FF body to use those FF capable lenses.
Also medium format just a few months ago sucked at high ISOs and most don't offer any decent AF.
Plus they really lack very fast lenses like f1.4 types.
The K3 is a good camera but the lens line up is nowhere near as good as Canon or Nikon and there is no upgrade path to FF.
Yes their limited lenses are pretty small and compact but many people prefer faster primes and that is where Pentax is lacking unless one considers 3rd party solutions.
Terapixel: A9 =A7II+superfastspeed AF on the whole frame plus 15 FPS ?
The ultimate FF mirrorless for sure. But I promise .... expensive !
But what a dream camera that would be.
Dream camera yes. But Sony really needs to get some kickass lenses too.
vFunct: Get a REAL video camera.
The Sony NEX-FS700 is so much better, at about the same price range.
You have yet to tell us WHY they are garbage.
I am again not disagreeing with you that a dedicated video camera will always be better for pros who can afford them but for those on a budget how is the quality offered from say an A7s garbage compared to this C100 ?
I don't disagree that specialist cameras have better handling. But the price difference is pretty high and these specialist cameras suck badly at stills while a 5d mk iii shoots impressive video AND stills.
vFunct claims DSLRs are complete garbage for video and I was trying to prove him wrong.
Are you being sarcastic ? A very successful serial - House MD had a few episodes shot with a 5d mk iii camera.
peevee1: OK, could you predict that Samsung will be the second mirrorless system which acquires the essential pro zoom doublet? And m43 will get the doublet TWICE (from both Pana and now Oly) before Sony, Fuji, Nikon, Canon do it?Sony got sidetracked with all that useless FE adventure, where every lens has to include that missing flange distance...
DOF wise they will be similar when comparing FF and APS-C and since FF has at least a one stop advantage of APS-C in IQ, the similarities will be quite stark.
Chaitanya S: If I remember correctly, Canon was going to abandon the 7D name in future. Specs are really good, I would like to read how the sensor on this one performs compared to 70D. If there is a noticeable improvement I wouldn't mind getting this one over the 70D.
I will be happy to be proven wrong but I seriously doubt this is anything other than a tweaked 70D sensor.
Ah I don't shoot events so don't care for fast AF. For professional work I would take a DSLR over a mirrorless camera.
Perhaps but its still better than an APS-C sensor at least. Especially a pixel dense one like on this Samsung.