Bhima78: Shutter shock on the GX8 is slightly over-reported since, unlike the G7, the electronic shutter bit-rate in the GX8 is higher (12-bit I think). As such, there isn't much of an IQ penalty shooting in electronic shutter mode with the GX8. I pretty much just shoot exclusively with the e-shutter unless I'm doing strobe work. I haven't had banding issues due to crappy flourescent lighting frequencies, and I don't pan while shooting so I don't get the jello effect. YMMV.
I find the conclusion: if you shoot stills, go PEN F... If you shoot video, go GX8 to be extremely oversimplified. The GX8 is weathersealed, has a much better articulating EVF and much faster AF than the PEN F. It can also be found for much cheaper as well. All of these things are great features for stills shooters.
" it must be the IBIS which arguably is only really needed at longer FL"Really where do you get this information from? IBIS can be used at any focal length, if you are shooting slow shutter speed. In fact IBIS is less effective at longer focal lengths
arhmatic: I'd really like Olympus, Fujifilm and everyone else to come up with this "art mode bracketing", where you take the raw photo as is, plus the camera saves the JPG as "Pinhole Camera III" or whatever you select.
The argument is, you can only take a photo once before the moment is gone... sometimes you can't take separate photos if you want to try different art filters. This is the reason I never use art filters - because I still want the unaltered copy as is.
If this option exists, it should extend to being able to do Raw or jpg + Art 1 + Art2-3... Sure, card writing time extends, but it's fine to some. This is not available, as far as I know, but if it is, please ignore. I will post this in the Fujifilm forum, as I'd really like this to be available.
You can do RAW + JPG and bracket your Art filters on the JPG and you will still get an unaltered RAW file.
AnakChan: I didn't find any stats on latency numbers such as startup time, shutter lags, etc. Any info on those?
Near instant startup time? Thats impressive.
User1919566996: I don't understand why no one is comparing the new PEN-F with the Panasonic LX8 and not the Sony A6000. They are using the same Sony sensor. An I can't understand why Olympus can't get their head around 4K.
Olympus will get to 4K once they sort out their 1080P first.
BigBen08: Were the original Pens this large? This is not a pocket camera.
They were larger
ottonis: @ all the dudes here complaining about sample pictures being "uninspired" or in whatever else way "not good enough" to their standards:.Apparently, you guys forget that this was NOT a professional fashion shooting, where ONE photographer was shooting ONE model thousands of times over several hours, just to pick the best 5 pictures from perhaps 500+. Not to mention lack of control over lighting, model acting/posing etc.Moreover, you guys conveniently forget that the reviewers here were given equipment they never before had in their hands (entirely new lenses and to some of them possibly even the cameras) without any chance to get accustomed to the new tech. Tell me ONE professional photographer who gets entirely NEW gear, gets out, takes 20 shots and all them are masterpieces? In what delusional world are you living, or are you just hating for no reason?
And I always thought that fanboy-ism was constrained to the guys < 16 years of age.....
"And I always thought that fanboy-ism was constrained to the guys < 16 years of age....."
You certainly do not know anything about Fanboys then. The worst ones are in the mid 30's and 40's.
Biowizard: Gotta say, I am in love with my Olympus OM-D E-M1, not least because it handles so much like my original OM-1N from 1976. If I wanted a second body, this Pen-F would be a very good contender.
Olympus are producing the cameras I've always wanted: excellent picture quality, lovely handling, and sizes comparable to the best of the 35mm world. AND pretty! By comparison, even their own E-1 feels like a lump of lead, and as for the big Canikons, yikes! I'd need to hire a sherpa before getting one of their flagships!
Human Growth Hormones are cheap, but mind the roid rage
larrytusaz: Regarding the tool one uses to accomplish something, looks shouldn't matter so much. It's not a woman in a bikini.
@OPExtremely sexist statement, childish at best.
Digimat: a beatiful camera...but i dont know...i often even find aps-c somehow lacking against fullframe. i only once tried an older pen and even with a fast lens the images lack "depth". but when you often shoot with the aperture closed down anyways, or just dont care for that thin DOF look this looks to be a very nice camera, especially with thoose smal f1.8 prime lenses. quite expensive though.
Of course M43 lenses have to be better and Sharper than FF "equivalent lenses" to match the sensor resolutions.
Therefore there is some validation (to some extent) that smaller lenses to produce the equivalent FF images cost more or are more difficult to produce. Hence why the M43 format is reliant on Software correction to produce the smallest lenses.
princecody: I thought by now Olympus would have perfected the high res shot handheld without a tripod 😀 Maybe in the EM2-fingers crossed 😀
Apparently the Hand held HI rES requires much more hardware improvments which are not yet available. New Shutter, faster processor etc. Heres hoping EM1 MK2 will finally achieve it. It will be a serious achievement.
User3218338893: Why no weather sealing?? if this is supposed to be a high end camera why leave that out ??
This is a camera intended for smaler lenses like primes. Many of which are not Weather seals - perhaps the 60mm Macro but thats a different beast.
There is no magic, use the right lens on a M43 camera, and right settings (dare i say "equivalent") the image will look the same. This is just basic physics/maths.
There is no magic in 35mm. Just easier to achieve some certain looks.
Jacques Cornell: Mirrorless shooters don't need no stinkin' AF adjustment.Yea!
JACS maybe if you did your research it with CDAF that all mirroless cameras have it doesnt matter what the equivalent DOF is. even if it is f/3.5 or f/2 AF will be accurate.
Rugged cameras are always a bit ugly, but man this leica is one of the ugliest
burnin: My arms hurt just looking at the pictures.
I doubt your 12 year old son is holding it for 8 hours a day, along with multiple lenses
Olympus could do with some of the marketing and product innovators from Casio. This is what they tried to achieve with their selfie PEN, but failed.
forpetessake: I have nothing against people inventing various even wacky ways of entertaining themselves and battling boredom. But when they start promoting myths of some noble, eco-friendly, peaceful primitive savages, it's time to set the record straight. Ignoble savages were nasty to one another as well as to their environments. Surveying primitive and civilized societies, University of Illinois anthropologist Lawrence H. Keeley ... demonstrates that prehistoric war was, relative to population densities and fighting technologies, at least as frequent ... as deadly ... and as ruthless ... as modern war. One pre-Columbian mass grave in South Dakota, for example, yielded the remains of 500 scalped and mutilated men, women and children. (Michael Shermer, Scientific American)
"Ignoble savages were nasty to one another as well as to their environments. "
While that may be true, then theres no difference really to the way we live today. Except they werent putting tonnes of C02 into the atmosphere.
Wild Light: all that Leica have proved is they can create a camera, at double the price, that isn't as good as the competition.
By AbrasiveReducer (1 hour ago)What similarly priced camera does this compete with?
None, they priced it so high so they would have no competition.
Do my eyes deceive me? Why are the Leica SL images so soft almost out of focus, and secondly the Banding even at Low ISO? Am I seeing this right?
Painful to watch Leica's slow fall from grace. Stick to overpriced Lenses like Zeiss.
The most amazing thing about these photos is a teenager who has the ability to get out of bed before 9am.