The olympus version has the most gains only using the most premium lenses. How good can the Iphone lense be?
great Idea, I expect this to come to M4/3s cameras too without the additional app just built into firmware. Also what about some Voice control, just for shooting instead, maybe too much to ask..... would be handy just to say "shoot", without any additional apps.
mpgxsvcd: I would love to see an example where 16 megapixels simply isn’t enough. Most kit lenses won’t even resolve that much detail. Dpreview had to resort to the “exotic” 42.5mm F1.2 lens to get consistent results in the high resolution mode.
Piesdf, its easier to resolve detail on a larger sensor than a smaller one. M43s lens resolution has to be twice as high as a lense designed for 16MP FF sensor.
D Gold: I was quite positive about the 40 meg feature in the actual review of the new Olympus, but looking at the trees and water in the picture of the temple, the sensor movement becomes painfully obvious and ruins the image.
I dont under stand why people try to use the 40MP mode against the recommended protocol (i.e. static scenes) then complain that it has strange artifacts.
No one is complaining about HDR or stitching with signficant movement in those modes. Its just accepted that you need to avoid movement.
Ayoh: Its a shame the interviewer didn't call him out on the nonsense about the 300mm lens being the same as a 600mm lens on full frame. The "effective focal length" is obviously just a function of pixel density and not sensor size. A full frame sensor with the same pixel density as the four thirds camera has the same resolution.
errrr FL and resolution are two different things.
BHD2: What lens were you using before re-shooting the high res test with the 42.5mm lens?
yes thats what I meant, it only needs to resolve a minimum of 16 MP
Howver of course if you have lenses that resolve more than 16MP this will always give better results
donCortizone: I liked the original E-M5, but didn't love it. I'd really like to give this version a shot since it looks like they've refined the controls quite a bit. The sensor, however, kills it for me. No way would I choose to go back to image quality of this kind at this price point.
he must be using FF or MF. Theres not much to be lost with APS-C.
jack of all trades, master of none.
Last time I checked, IT is the MASTER of stabilization.It also has no rivals in the sensor shift game. The best JPG engine around (arguably)No peers with live time and live composite
Jack of all trades, but still master of some.
Agree. TH 45 is one of the sharpest lenses non PRO/PREMIUM lenses in the system. So it does not need to resolve 40MP only 16 MP
aramgrg: So why should they be competitive?Because of bulky and heavy construction? In particular, why will someone consider say 25 1.8 instead of well regarded PL 25 1.4?I know, they are all metal, but how many times you damaged your lens because of plastic construction?
These are not Legacy lenses. They are manual focus lenses. MF does not equal legacy. Nearly all cine lenses are MF and they cost $$$$$ however these are not meant to be TOP of the RANGE CINE lenses. I assume they are for those hybrid shooters.
clicks/clickless its about having the choice. Having both does not exclude it from being video centric.
RichRMA: I don't know. Olympus makes a high-end 12mm f/2.0 with AF and much smaller and cheaper than the Kowa so apart from some kind of video application, why buy the Kowa?
comparing the samyang and others to the olympus is not a fair comparison. Firstly the olympus is tiny and has AF. So yest its "t actually seems quite easy to make a sharper lens with less distortion" if you want it a bit larger, and possibly without AF.
PeaceKeeper: These look amazing, but those prices are a little bonkers... O.o
If they don't start getting absolutely amazing reviews I can't see how these would appeal to a large enough market to justify their existence.
I am tickled pink to see a high quality rectilinear ultra wide for MFT in that 8.5mm(something that system is lacking). But if it costs as much as a FF body and a ultra wide MF FF lens(or an APSC with a 12mm) why would a stills photographer bother?
Ok, so it has an unclicky aperture ring... Most any lens can be adjusted/modified to do that. And if the alternative is spending over $1500, you have little to lose trying.
At nearly 4x the cost, the 12mm better have something huge over the Rokinon 12mm f/2.0. And it's far to easy to use older MF lenses for video at the 25mm focal length.
VERY small market for something this expensive.
However I would take one of those 8.5's for $750(maybe 600...). Heck, I don't even care if it has twice the rated distortion.
To be Fair they have T stops which may be important for professional CINE/Video work so cannot be compared to lenses that do not. But Still agree they are very expensive none the less, but built for specific purposes.
The 8.5 didn't really get a stellar review from this guy:http://m43lens.blogspot.tw/2014/09/kowa-prominar-85mm-f28-test-review.html
However it does have excellent optics in terms of barell distortion. I think this lens is for the purists only.
Still interested to see how the other 2 lenses perform.
Theres something for everyone in M4/3 now.
Making a 1/5th of your workforce rednundant sounds like a company that is on the RISE!
princecody: Is the Panasonic 42.5mm a mini Nocticron or an alternative to the Olympus 45mm (which I returned because of the akward focal length compared to the Nocticron & cheap feel)?
42.5 > 45mm is awkward FL? different (not by much) but seriously you are just nitpicking.
SmilerGrogan: Brilliant! Bravo. You have made a real breakthrough in video camera reviewing. Great out-of-the-box thinking and another reason why so many people rely on DPR.
The world has been waiting for someone to do this forever because watching a video about an Olympus camera shot on a Canon C100 or a Nikon D750 tells us nothing about the Olympus.
Please do them all this way.
Thank you thank you thank you!!!!!
And at the risk of repeating myself: Genius!
I am detecting... that you really like the review!
CanonKen: Can I stack them? Trying for a 17 day waterfall exposure.
I've got a filter even better than ND100,000. Its called a lens cap.
SeeRoy: Never mind the bl00dy "40mp without a tripod". How about designing an M43 camera with controls that someone has actually TESTED FOR USABILITY! I can't speak for the other models but the EM5 (mk 1) is a complete ergonomic disaster, utterly impossible to use without constantly disturbing settings that need to remain as intentionally set.And then of course there's the firmware. And the scabby focusing. Trying to pack in yet more "feechers", groan. But maybe that's what the majority of the punters want.
"impossible to use.."
Wow.... the most popular mirroless camera on flicker, seems like lots of people find it "possible"
prossi: I was ready to pull the trigger on this until I saw the AF specs...why not include phase detect AF?!!? These kinds of dollar shorts solutions are really irritating to me and kill my purchasing mood right off the bat. If I am buying a newly released camera I want all the latest&greatest. This thing costs 100 less than the em1. Whatever...
Im not sure I understand the complaint for NO OSPDAF?
Theres an EM1 for that, if you dont like it the EM1 MK2 will be out soon enough (maybe next year?).