osu9400: I'm an IT manager at a large company. The most exciting thing about Win10 is that it is one operating system that run on many platforms (phones/laptops/desktop/tablets/xbox/watches/IoT/etc). This will allow developers to truly write an app once and have it run on all these devices. This has long been the dream of computer science. As a consumer you won't have to buy an app for each device - the app you own will run cross platform and become responsive to your screen size. Think of how some websites have desktop and mobile versions. This is the idea for apps. As an example, if this works, I'll be able to replace $40,000 Cisco teleconf units (that users hate) with an XboxOne running a Skype for Business app!
About the phone, if you read the rumors, Microsoft will release a premium phone under the Surface brand late this year or early next. I think it will be Intel based and not a traditional mobile chipset.
Microsoft is not new to having the same operating system run on multiple architectures. They did it in the early days of NT. NT Server and Workstation ran on Intel, DEC Alpha, MIPS and even IBM's PowerPC. It was the same OS compiled for different architectures. Intel was RISC and PowerPC was CISC --yet, it was the same OS.
ccbelcher: How does it compare to the Lumia 1020? If it has the same IS, that is a plus. The 1020's 42mp resolution allowed for great stabilized zooms in video mode, though for some reason the camera app would not allow a refocus while recording -- it was either full auto or set the focus before recording.
No one seems to be reproducing the high megapixel count of that camera, is it that the consensus is to oversample for better low light and general performance rather than squeeze out every possible pixel?
The OIS is actually better than the 1020. Plus, it now has digital IS for video.
I'm not certain the lowlight capability is as good as the 1020, but it is still good.
sh10453: Looks like a good product, in general.If Microsoft really wants to penetrate the smart phone market, and to have a "plus" over the rest, they need to make this phone (or a replacement one) a dual-boot, Windows 10 and Android (of course not simultaneously).Windows lovers will love Windows 10 and its apps (such as MS Office), and Android lovers will of course boot to Android.Problem solved.Otherwise, Windows phone is not going anywhere. Not many third party developers are jumping on its bandwagon.
Just a humble opinion.
Personally, I use a Windows phone, and an Android tablet. Happy with both.
@supeyugin1 can't tell if this was sarcasm, but comparing Google docs to 'real' office is a bit ludicrous. Whether you're using Office 2016 or the web version they are significantly more mature than gmail and its band of clunky brethren. Throw end the back end of Office 365 and you have a complete datacenter in the cloud for a few bucks a month. We just moved 10,000 users to 365.
@Petrogel Did you miss the point where I said there is a fork for the different target architectures. Those forks occur after all the common coding is done.
If you're comparing plugging an android into a monitor to this, then you are missing the point about continuum and universal responsive apps. You should really check it out, it's a great idea and what other operating systems will eventually implement.
datiswous: Wow, that phone looks ugly.. Did they fire some people in the Lumia design department? I mean I think my Lumia 735 looks great.
I think the white looks better than the black.
The wife bought a Mozo cover and it looks and feels great. It's leather so it has a good tactile feel. It added wireless charging so the thickness was increased.
To better understand universal apps and I encourage everyone to look up a Continuum demo. Microsoft just previewed version 2 at their build conference earlier this year.
All, starting with Win10, the OS on the phone and PC (and soon XboxOne) is THE SAME OS. All sub systems are the same, they even run the exact same apps. Yes, there is a fork or new compilation for the individual platforms but it is the same OS. This is more advanced than Win8.1 where only some bits were shared across platforms - Win10 is an evolution of Win8.1 on the PC but this is the first time it has been on mobile. Apple is a little different. The same OS (iOS) runs on their mobile platform. OSX has some shared kernel bits as ios but the OS itself is different.
yes, big welcome changes, but "breakthrough" is hyperbole.
OneMoreComment: This phones only problem is that runs on Microsoft's useless OS, The camera is nice for a phone !!!!
agree 100% on the app selection. It's getting better but still woeful. Disagree on the OS though, I find incredibly smooth and intuitive. My ipad has been relegated to a YouTube/Netflix viewing device. For corp IT purposes, Win10 is the most secure and manageable platform available.
EdBen: I don't understand something. It runs on windows 10, so does it not have access to all the windows "proper" software light room, etc etc), which makes android and ios apps look gadgety? Is it a question that it does not have the processing power / memory to run them properly? Or is mobile windows 10 not the same as desktop windows 10?
Good question. There are traditional windows "programs" and a new subsystem just for apps. Win10 can obviously run both but they limit Windows10 mobile devices to just apps. If I had to guess, in 10 years all development will be done as an app even if it runs on a 65" TV.
The Surface line of tablets doesn't run Win10 mobile so it can run app and programs light lightroom.
dgr4it: It is kind of sad that you went into writing this review without bothering to update your phone's OS and camera software.
Also, not having taken the time to understand how the app works, which would be fine except because you raise up those points as "shortcomings". I would expect anyone expending their own money on the phone to learn hot to use it, and therefore your review misleading.
FWIW1) It has been a short while Microsoft updated the app so that "force HDR" is available.2) You can start video recording by long pressing the shutter button at any time, without requiring to change modes whatsoever.3) On my up to date 950XL the camera launches instantly (less than a second), doubt the 950 takes 2s.4) Launching the camera does not require a "long press" of the camera button, but a single short press.5) Every PureView Lumia has had a dedicated HW button, so I don't get "the old fashioned "camera icon" thing.6) The Lumia 950XL does not have a front flash.
Good post. To clarify, the long press shutter button can be programmed in camera settings.
Tod Sackett: had the phone for a week. Mostly all good. Only issue is that it overheats and as a result, the battery life sucks. Other than that is nice. Got the dual sim version, like it. even though data is only allowed on one Sim, not a big issue.
I'm in the preview program (just got a new build yesterday) and the heating issue has gotten better. It still gets warm (depending on the build) but it appears this is something they working on.
Agree if this is 2010 but disagree today. Win10 is a fantastic OS. It's secure, fast, and easy on the eyes. The SaaS approach is going to be interesting to watch for an OS but I think the benefits of a constantly (meaning monthly) updating OS outweigh potential negatives.
I'm an IT manager at a large company. The most exciting thing about Win10 is that it is one operating system that run on many platforms (phones/laptops/desktop/tablets/xbox/watches/IoT/etc). This will allow developers to truly write an app once and have it run on all these devices. This has long been the dream of computer science. As a consumer you won't have to buy an app for each device - the app you own will run cross platform and become responsive to your screen size. Think of how some websites have desktop and mobile versions. This is the idea for apps. As an example, if this works, I'll be able to replace $40,000 Cisco teleconf units (that users hate) with an XboxOne running a Skype for Business app!
As an owner of this camera, I agree with portions of this review and disagree with others.
First of all, there are some inaccuracies. The review states there is no way to force HDR on. That is wrong. HDR can be set to on/off/auto. In the early builds this was the case and HDR was actually called Rich Capture. Microsoft renamed it to HDR to be more standard for people switching from other platforms. Perhaps the reviewer didn't have the latest version of the OS or camera app. The app is seemingly updated each week.
The review states that there is no built-in panorama lens. That is correct and I don't understand why. Previous versions of the OS had great pano lenses to select from.
The 3-LED flash system gives natural skin tones and aides in the ability to "pick the best light" after the photo has been taken.
Using Win10 (not mobile) Photos app you can select a frame from a living image and select best light.
It's becoming a good ecosystem. Large Win10 update coming in June.
Lapkonium: The only soft product by Microsoft that ACTUALLY WORX GOOWD
never heard of them, but that is funny. I'm the original Microsoft hater -- even ran OS/2 (yes OS/2) and Linux to prove my disdain. Thinking back, I even held on to Lotus SmartSuite and may Mac System 9 for way too long. Anyway, in my more mature years, I've realized that brand allegiance and/or hatred is stupid. I haven't swung completely to the dark side, but I do realize their new products are very well designed, useful and open. FYI: I'm a manager in corp IT where we love Office365 since it is replacing all kinds of old junk like servers in our datacenter, PBXs, etc
Don't look now, but Microsoft has their 1990s (pre DoJ) mojo back. They kicked Ballmer out the door and Nadella is rolling. Office365 is a business game changer, Xbox is becoming a home automation hub, their health products are starting to come into their own -- including the healthband that I am wearing now, SKype/Lync are replacing phone systems in the workplace, Surface is now a billion dollar business, and Hololens and Windows10 look very exicting for 2015.
Tom Z: I remember some similar software from Microsoft many many years ago. I can't remember the name but do remember it being well ahead of it's time.
Photosynth is a little different. ICE is a traditional, use your CPU to stitch photos in a panorama. Photosynth is much more complex. It takes photos from every plane and uses cloud processing to create a near immersive result.
Fri13: Saddest part is that this software was designed for Linux, then was suppose to come as Open Source in future (in the past) but Microsoft made a offer that owners couldn't refuse....
And today one of the most helpful software to photographers is in hands of a mega corporation.
Are you certain you have your facts straight? ICE is not a 'real' product but a research project that has been at Microsoft for years. Yes, they package it as ICE, but chunks are also integrated into other projects as well. Here's the photo group - like I said, they've been around forever and we take many of their projects for granted now. http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/groups/ivm/technology.htm