Vetteran: I read the article..so what? What's the big deal?
Exactly. It was no big deal, yet he got an outraged response from all manner of fans.
timedrun: M43 new cams, and even more their lenses, are not worth what they ask for them. I just saw that the oly 45mm f1.8, which is in their cheap range, has been "reduced" to $399. That is a skank imo. Samsung sell the exact same spec lens for NX at $199.
The 45mm F1.8 is a great lens. As with anything, I'd like to pay less for it, but I've really enjoyed mine, captured excellent images.
Raist3d: The #1 feature that is catching my attention is the silent shooting mode. It's the reason why I have come to appreciate leaf shutter cameras. I know it has its limitations (max ISO 3200 and can have some tearing if you move) but it does make a difference in several situations.
It was very cool, and one of the main things I like about the Nikon 1 cameras.
Mike Cialowicz: Odd... they claim it has front and rear control dials, but all I see is a rear dial. Is the front dial the toothed thing surrounding the shutter button? Is that awkward to use?
Combatmedic870: how was the touch screen?
It was capacitive, so it worked well.
Adrian Tung: I don't get why this is a con: "Focus must be acquired for every exposure in AF-S mode (use AFL to get around it)"
Isn't that practically how all cameras behave in single shot mode, unless you engage some form of focus lock (e.g. manual focus, AF-L, etc)?
Yes, and it happens right after you fully press the shutter. As joejack951 said, on many cameras you don't have to release the shutter button fully. You can keep it half-pressed and press it again to prevent the camera from re-focusing.
cmvsm: How does the Canon score a Gold Award at 78%, yet the Nikon D5200 scored 79%, but received a Silver Award? Furthermore, all other cameras reviewed within the last year, that scored a 79 or above, all received Gold Awards, except for the Nikon D5200.
I really could care less either way, just trying to understand DVR's scoring/rating system, as its a bit inconsistent.
My point about reading the review was not to find the sentence where I say, "this deserves a gold because," but for you to get the gist of the message, which repeatedly mentions its LV AF abilities and overall suitability to its customer. Raw performance is not much of a factor in a consumer camera, since most consumers don't know what it is, and won't benefit from its use. The bonus with this camera for enthusiasts is that it has all the essential photographic controls and raw capture in a small package; one that, even with a pancake lens attached, will fit into the space of most medium-size EF lenses. To reiterate for those who missed it: Awards are not based on numerical scoring, but on perceived value in the category. This camera, though its image quality is essentially the same as the T5i, works noticeably better in ways that users in its target market will appreciate, hence it gets a gold. It is my opinion of the camera.
It got the gold because I, the human who used it, with past experience reviewing hundreds of other cameras, thought it deserved it. As for how scoring relates to awards, read this: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/4416254604/camera-scores-ratings-explained
I believe this market, the one served by this camera, also served by mirrorless cameras, needs the features included in this camera. Read the other reviews to see why they didn't get a gold, I can't rehash them here, and I didn't review them all. As I've said in posts below, the reason it got gold was partly because important features - again, important for this market of mostly consumer, non-enthusiast users - actually worked. Primarily live view and movie mode AF. No, the sensor is not as fabulous numerically as others in terms of dynamic range, yet it still makes great images. For those into stats and pure performance, please beware: this camera will only please you so you can belittle it. For the rest, it makes great pics.
DVT80111, nobody pays any writers any money. That is against everything we stand for. You are rude to suggest it.
To answer the original question from cmvsm, scoring and awards are separate. The reviewer awards them based on his or her overall impression of the product, relative to its position in the market. If you read the review, I explain repeatedly why it deserves a gold.
chillgreg: Your product photos are fabulous! The pic on the news item page (this one) with the blue background is striking and eye catching in ours clarity and composition. Please pass on compliments to your in-house team for what is probably a largely unrecognized job.
Thanks, I'd like to say it was a big production, but I took that really quickly with my T3i and 40mm F2.8. The light was just right for a unique look.
Jane79: Why is the 100D not in the Gold Award section of GearShop?
It is now properly listed as Gold: http://gearshop.dpreview.com/canon-eos-rebel-sl1-dslr-camera/dp/B00CEMDTTQ?ref_=se_gd_1_0
NCB: Like others on here, I find the Gold award very strange. For that it should be close to being a world beater in its class. It isn't. Nowhere near. It's a reasonably capable camera which has one distinctive area, the weight and size of the body, which on paper gives some attractions and in practice gives some handling issues. The thing about most DSLR users is that they actually like the feel of using a DSLR; minor reductions in size and weight of the body aren't that relevant. In that respect would a 100D win out over a 600D? I don't think so. The 100D is a relatively minor addition to Canon's own range, and faces strong competition from other Canon cameras and also other cameras in the highly competitive entry-level DSLR and mirrorless market. It's OK but a Gold award just doesn't stack up.
For its target market, which I do not see as quite the same as the T5i, I think it is a Gold. For the basic photographic uses both T5i and SL1 customers will put the cameras to, I would more readily recommend the SL1. Some of the T5i's most-touted features are a disappointment, namely live view and movie autofocus. Those same features on the SL1 actually work, and well. That, in combination with the overall experience - which can't be shown on a chart - weighed heavily in my decision to gave it a Gold.
Marty4650: You really have to wonder.... if mini DSLRs like the SL1 existed five years ago, would there be so much interest in high end MILC cameras today?
It is indeed smaller and more portable, but may be still to large (especially in thickness) for people who want really small cameras.
I think Canon has a good product here, but it arrived too late to the party.
Still... it makes a very nice second camera for people who own a 70D or 7D and have plenty of EOS lenses...
@keeponkeepingon: they're not quite the same size. I have an XTi and it's a bit bigger in all but depth dimensions. XTi=127x94x65mm, SL1=117x91x69mm
No, the rating is ours.
marike6: Now that this camera got a Gold Award, maybe Canon will use this same sensor for another five years.
But seriously, I handled this camera at Costco the other day, and the body is really quite nice. IQ is behind it's competitors but at the entry level this may not matter since images at lower ISOs do look very good.
The problem is lenses. The lenses I'd be interested in mounting like the new Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 or the excellent EF 70-200 f/4 would balance extremely poorly. The shallow grip helps keep the SL1 small, but ultimately hurts ergonomics. In this case a standard Rebel T5i / 700D or 70D would be a significantly better choice.
Many assume (including DPR) that small size is desirable, but it only helps portability. That's it. And since the SL1 is not pocketable anyway, the sacrifice in handling is really all for naught.
@BJL: I put that note in there knowing that despite my positive experience and general lack of trouble, not everyone will think the same. I think the small grip will be an issue for some, who may hold cameras differently,
l_d_allan: Are the "Noise and Noise Reduction (RAW/JPEG)" charts missing? Can we infer they are the same as 700D (and other 18mpx Canon DSLR's like the 7D, T2i, T3i, T4i, etc.)?
Yes. We tested it enough to confirm they are the same. I'll add a link.
Tonkotsu Ramen: meh
more interested in the Sony A58, or NEX-5R, or NEX-3N, or EOS-M
or one of the other dozens of cameras you guys haven't tested recently
What you may miss, Tonkotsu, is that no matter what we review, someone will chime in that we should have reviewed something else. It's a bit of an old complaint, and always refers to something else.
Actually I shot the 70-200mm F4L with the SL1 quite a bit, and it was fine. You tend to hold the lens more than the grip, of course. Since I almost always shoot with the lens hood, it looks a bit funny, but if I get good shots I tend not to care about other appearances.
Matt1645f4: @ Shawn Barnett "added to the Rebel's well-established quality it's a clear gold award." How??? DXO scoring system which DPR seems happy to mention frequently rates the 100D's sensor at 63!! a full 16 points lower than the Pentax K50 (which is weather sealed) and its Big Brothers the K5/5II/5IIs which is scored 82. The only APS-C cameras with a higher score are the Nikon D5200 & 7100. So please tell me how its image Quality is Well established? i've tried a Canon 700D and was far from impressed with its quality over my Pentax K5's.
For the market - Consumers - the image quality is very good. Yes, dynamic range is limited by comparison. We say so. But the market for this camera isn't going to care enough to belabor the point. The K-5 II is not aimed at this market, period. At no time during my experience with the camera did I find my images marred or limited by the camera's dynamic range. Canon bias? My reputation reviewing hundreds of cameras of all makes stands to the contrary.
Benarm: seems like anything reviewed on DPR gets a Silver or Gold award, especially if its Canon or Nikon
Does it really seem that strange that the two largest manufacturers of digital cameras, who gained their marketshare by making good cameras, should continue to be able to do so?
I stand by my judgment. As the first Canon SLR we've tested to significantly improve upon autofocus in live view and video, added to the Rebel's well-established quality it's a clear gold award.