Karl K Grambow: I think a lot of you have missed the point (which to be fair hasn't been accurately put across in the article either).
The defendant had previously tried to use the original photograph in a commercial setting. But the claimant said "hang on, that's my photo, if you want to use it commercially then pay up". And they went to court over this.
Later on, the defendant decided that if he couldn't use the original photo, he'd take one that was similar so that he could avoid having to pay royalties.
The problem is that he used the original image as the idea with which to compose his photograph. And he did so expressly for commercial gain (and the claimants ultimate commercial loss). The fact that there are many other such-like images was irrelevant in this case because the defendant admitted in court that he used the claimants image as his inspiration.
So the issue here is that he copied someone elses idea (he addmitted as much) specifically for commercial gain.
I fully understand the issue but fundamentally disagree with the judgement. It is bad law.
The infringement and settlement should be on the first image (and it could be a big one) not the second.
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Posted on Jan 26, 2012 at 17:29:51 UTC
Olympus PEN E-PL3 seems to strike, by far, the best balance. The Nikno's base ISO 100 noise is very high to almost be distracting. It does hold the noise and by ISO 800 is starting to come out ahead. The V1's ISO 100 noise is almost troubling.
But overall, the IQ difference are very small between the different models.
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Posted on Oct 16, 2011 at 16:16:02 UTC
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Neroon: I am amused by all the Apple Haters out there. THe bottom line for me is that I own two DSLRs and a Canon G11. Since I got my iPhone I use my DSLRs more and I use my G11 almost never - twice in 6 months. The combination of software, images, ease of use, and the reality that the best camera is the one you have with you has changed how I do casual photography. Even more important is that I can post any picture I take with it to my Facebook page in a matter of minutes from the shot, the editing, and the upload. Apple might not have the best phone, but they have the support, the infrastructure (iCloud will be killer), and superior pricing. The fact is they sell more smart phones than any other single manufacturer. Apple also makes more than 51% of the profit for all smart phones -- dig that, they make more profit than all other smart phone makers combined. I do agree that a roundup on just the photo/camera software for camera phones would be nice. I love my iPhone4 and Camera+, they rock!
With Nokia's a plummet in smartphone sales (> than a loss of 30% YoY), it is stunning. This data does not show Nokia's sales but Symbian's sales share. One source of serious error is your belief that Nokia alone makes Symbian handsets. This is a false assessment of the industry. While all major players except Nokia have abandoned Symbian, several minor OEMs still use it.
At this point, saying Apple sales more smartphones than any other company is accurate based on a plurality of data available.
Q3 will see Samsung, fueled by Bada, pull ahead and Nokia fall further behind.
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Posted on Oct 7, 2011 at 12:19:37 UTC
PhotoArtKC: Apple dropped the ball for a change... The iPhone 4S is too little too late. Everyone has 8mp phones, dual cores and LARGER screens these days. Most of those even work on a 4G network! Really Apple, think about it for a second...
You missed it. It is about the software and services. The hardware is basically old hat and given iOS is significantly more advanced performance wise compared to Android (for example. iOS and WP7 are pretty much on par performance wise) there is a reason a first gen iPhone feels as responsive as a Droid Bionic.
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Posted on Oct 7, 2011 at 07:21:00 UTC
Is the iPhone iconic in the way it revolutionized things? Yes
Would it be nice if dpreview did a group roundup on camera phones or told us a little more about them? Yes
100% agree. I would love to see a quick review on some of these phones and really pit them against each other. I have been amazed at the quality I pull out of the iPhone 4. NR is well under control with minimal SR NR going on.
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Posted on Oct 7, 2011 at 07:05:51 UTC
Neroon: I am amused by all the Apple Haters out there. THe bottom line for me is that I own two DSLRs and a Canon G11. Since I got my iPhone I use my DSLRs more and I use my G11 almost never - twice in 6 months. The combination of software, images, ease of use, and the reality that the best camera is the one you have with you has changed how I do casual photography. Even more important is that I can post any picture I take with it to my Facebook page in a matter of minutes from the shot, the editing, and the upload. Apple might not have the best phone, but they have the support, the infrastructure (iCloud will be killer), and superior pricing. The fact is they sell more smart phones than any other single manufacturer. Apple also makes more than 51% of the profit for all smart phones -- dig that, they make more profit than all other smart phone makers combined. I do agree that a roundup on just the photo/camera software for camera phones would be nice. I love my iPhone4 and Camera+, they rock!
@costinul_ala
What he said is 100% accurate. Android is not a manufacture Apple, HTC, Samsung, Nokia and ZTE are examples of manufactures.
For that ComScore has Apple at the #1 spot but will probably slip to Samsung for the next quarter and then Sammy and Apple will slip again for the following.
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Posted on Oct 7, 2011 at 07:03:47 UTC
I am going out on a limb and say these will sell like hot-cakes. The colors will really attract a female audience and the black clor the male. The designs are simple and sleek with a camera that is easy to pocket and go. The IQ will be better than P&S and cell cameras with much of the same ease.
The readers of DPReview are not the target for these.
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The technology is impressive overall but still has work to be done before it will ever see wide acceptance. Quality wise, these are not much different than you see on social web sharing sites like Facebook and the like. The ability to fix the #1 error of most snap shooters might prove to be a good marketing angle.
I don't see these being used for fine art but, hey, people still do amazing work with Poloraid so who is to say.
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Posted on Jul 25, 2011 at 20:48:55 UTC
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Karl K Grambow: I think a lot of you have missed the point (which to be fair hasn't been accurately put across in the article either).
The defendant had previously tried to use the original photograph in a commercial setting. But the claimant said "hang on, that's my photo, if you want to use it commercially then pay up". And they went to court over this.
Later on, the defendant decided that if he couldn't use the original photo, he'd take one that was similar so that he could avoid having to pay royalties.
The problem is that he used the original image as the idea with which to compose his photograph. And he did so expressly for commercial gain (and the claimants ultimate commercial loss). The fact that there are many other such-like images was irrelevant in this case because the defendant admitted in court that he used the claimants image as his inspiration.
So the issue here is that he copied someone elses idea (he addmitted as much) specifically for commercial gain.
I fully understand the issue but fundamentally disagree with the judgement. It is bad law.
The infringement and settlement should be on the first image (and it could be a big one) not the second.
Olympus PEN E-PL3 seems to strike, by far, the best balance. The Nikno's base ISO 100 noise is very high to almost be distracting. It does hold the noise and by ISO 800 is starting to come out ahead. The V1's ISO 100 noise is almost troubling.
But overall, the IQ difference are very small between the different models.
Neroon: I am amused by all the Apple Haters out there. THe bottom line for me is that I own two DSLRs and a Canon G11. Since I got my iPhone I use my DSLRs more and I use my G11 almost never - twice in 6 months. The combination of software, images, ease of use, and the reality that the best camera is the one you have with you has changed how I do casual photography. Even more important is that I can post any picture I take with it to my Facebook page in a matter of minutes from the shot, the editing, and the upload. Apple might not have the best phone, but they have the support, the infrastructure (iCloud will be killer), and superior pricing. The fact is they sell more smart phones than any other single manufacturer. Apple also makes more than 51% of the profit for all smart phones -- dig that, they make more profit than all other smart phone makers combined. I do agree that a roundup on just the photo/camera software for camera phones would be nice. I love my iPhone4 and Camera+, they rock!
http://www.isuppli.com/Mobile-and-Wireless-Communications/News/Pages/IHS-iSuppli-Fast-Facts-on-Apple%E2%80%99s-New-iPhone-Introduction.aspx
With Nokia's a plummet in smartphone sales (> than a loss of 30% YoY), it is stunning. This data does not show Nokia's sales but Symbian's sales share. One source of serious error is your belief that Nokia alone makes Symbian handsets. This is a false assessment of the industry. While all major players except Nokia have abandoned Symbian, several minor OEMs still use it.
At this point, saying Apple sales more smartphones than any other company is accurate based on a plurality of data available.
Q3 will see Samsung, fueled by Bada, pull ahead and Nokia fall further behind.
PhotoArtKC: Apple dropped the ball for a change... The iPhone 4S is too little too late. Everyone has 8mp phones, dual cores and LARGER screens these days. Most of those even work on a 4G network! Really Apple, think about it for a second...
You missed it. It is about the software and services. The hardware is basically old hat and given iOS is significantly more advanced performance wise compared to Android (for example. iOS and WP7 are pretty much on par performance wise) there is a reason a first gen iPhone feels as responsive as a Droid Bionic.
hiro_pro: iCondolences Steve Jobs
Is the iPhone iconic in the way it revolutionized things? Yes
Would it be nice if dpreview did a group roundup on camera phones or told us a little more about them? Yes
100% agree. I would love to see a quick review on some of these phones and really pit them against each other. I have been amazed at the quality I pull out of the iPhone 4. NR is well under control with minimal SR NR going on.
Neroon: I am amused by all the Apple Haters out there. THe bottom line for me is that I own two DSLRs and a Canon G11. Since I got my iPhone I use my DSLRs more and I use my G11 almost never - twice in 6 months. The combination of software, images, ease of use, and the reality that the best camera is the one you have with you has changed how I do casual photography. Even more important is that I can post any picture I take with it to my Facebook page in a matter of minutes from the shot, the editing, and the upload. Apple might not have the best phone, but they have the support, the infrastructure (iCloud will be killer), and superior pricing. The fact is they sell more smart phones than any other single manufacturer. Apple also makes more than 51% of the profit for all smart phones -- dig that, they make more profit than all other smart phone makers combined. I do agree that a roundup on just the photo/camera software for camera phones would be nice. I love my iPhone4 and Camera+, they rock!
@costinul_ala
What he said is 100% accurate. Android is not a manufacture Apple, HTC, Samsung, Nokia and ZTE are examples of manufactures.
For that ComScore has Apple at the #1 spot but will probably slip to Samsung for the next quarter and then Sammy and Apple will slip again for the following.
I am going out on a limb and say these will sell like hot-cakes. The colors will really attract a female audience and the black clor the male. The designs are simple and sleek with a camera that is easy to pocket and go. The IQ will be better than P&S and cell cameras with much of the same ease.
The readers of DPReview are not the target for these.
The technology is impressive overall but still has work to be done before it will ever see wide acceptance. Quality wise, these are not much different than you see on social web sharing sites like Facebook and the like. The ability to fix the #1 error of most snap shooters might prove to be a good marketing angle.
I don't see these being used for fine art but, hey, people still do amazing work with Poloraid so who is to say.