Kev The Doc: So a silver award camera beats a gold award camera? Do you then not need to change up your scoring system?
My thoughts exactly.
3tagebart: Nikon D7200 from 2015 (84% silver) wins over the 2016 Sony a6300 (85% gold)?
Bizarre rating system at DPR... ;-)
You both are right, but then why have a percentage rating in the first place? Instead a overall rating like "good", "superb" would be more reasonable in my opinion.
Nikon D7200 from 2015 (84% silver) wins over the 2016 Sony a6300 (85% gold)?
AlexCHStudio: Oh, thank you, Nikon! I knew I need a better camera than my D810! Finally for mere 6.5K (+few more K-s on lens and flashes) I would be able to beat my neighbor who puts me always into shame with his excellent pictures, taken with his 15-years old Canon G2. I am reaching for my wallet already :-)
Thanks DPR folks for adding some humor to this ongoing grim discussion:
"Rebel alliance [sic!] user-base"
on page 7. :-) May the force be with you!
Since M3' sensor is most likely the one also found in EOS 760/750:
"I was recently told (thanks) that after a query to Canon about the EOS M3, the response suggested that the noise/DR perfomance of the new 24MP sensor was on a par with the 18MP in the 700D and that video performance was not up to the level of the 7D mk2."
Move along, nothing to see here... :-)
Shunda77: Your sensor's so old that Noah was told to put two of them on the ark.
Love your too old jokes! You should make a list of them.
Shunda77: Your sensors so old, that when they walked into King Tuts tomb, there was a hieroglyph of it on the wall.
Laughed my ass off!
Trondster: Noooo - no Baileys logo! That tree has been the definition of sharpness for ages!!
Good point, bad drink.
3tagebart: I really like the fact that you used a "Zwanzig Schilling" banknote from Austria :-)
Carl Ritter von Ghega ftw! ;-)
I really like the fact that you used a "Zwanzig Schilling" banknote from Austria :-)
Donnie G: In today's marketplace it's shirt pocket size smartphones with built in cameras that rule the point & shoot marketplace instead of shirt pocket size all in one P&S cameras. Doesn't it make sense to design cameras that smartphone users might want to buy, instead of hoping that pocket P&S cameras will someday come back in style?
As the 1st. of a new breed of EOS non-DSLR bodies. (Large sensor + EF lens compatibility = EOS), Canon's EOS M could be a big hit among its intended audience and then some. Call it an ILC if you want ( I doubt that Canon will mind), but this new EOS is aimed at the typical smartphone camera user who is looking for true DSLR image quality in what appears to be a coat pocket friendly (with 22mm lens) form factor, to make prints, photo-book albums, and more, but who doesn't want to learn how to use a DSLR (hence the smartphone-like touchscreen controls and lack of an EVF/OVF). Want an OVF too? Buy a G1 X.
Very well said.
qwertyasdf: I'm gonna repeat it again and again and again.You've gotta gotta gotta gotta have a decent ultra-wide lens for a mirrorless system.
This is because landscape photographers:
A)Do not care for slow AFB) Do not care for FF DOFC) Do not have to change settings rapidly, thus do not care for bad ergonomicsD) Do not care for super high ISO performance (applicable to older M43 sensors)
E) Cares for the weight of gears.
Do not call me a girl for the last point (Actually girls take landscape photos too). If you never went on a photography trip for a whole week, you will not understand how the fatigue builds up.
Very true words qwertyasdf. But you can use the EF-S 10-22 (385 g) with the adapter. Should be a relatively lightweight package.
NikonScavenger: Every mirrorless camera seems to be a mess of compromises. You give up a big sensor, or a viewfinder, or external controls, a lens library, or a flash hotshoe. What is the point of having a camera system if there are 3-4 lenses for it? Canon is now going to spend time and money developing their mirrorless lenses, but most kit buyers will NEVER take off the 18-55 once they first install it. Once you put a flash on it and a walkaround lens, the mirrorless camera becomes big once again.
Do the majority of the people who buy these things have a huge lens library, do DSLR owners really want a scaled down SLR? I've gone on vacations, planes, trains and have just taken creative measures to cram my D300 into my luggage.
I had a m4/3 camera. It wasn't very portable. The pictures weren't as good as my Nikon, the AF wasn't as advanced, you could put a flash on it, but the flash was twice the size and weight of the camera. You could put it in a pocket, as long as you took the lens and hood off.
Finally someone who describes the whole problem of mirrorless cameras in a nutshell. It's always about compromises. I'd rather take my 40D and a lot of glass or the S100 (or something similar) right away. A satisfactory jack of all trades does not exist.