smartcam sound like a cheap plastic toy you give to your kid.
it doesn't flow the same way smartphone does, partially because of the actual sound, partially because it wasn't a true product innovation and it was more of a necessary step to keep the market alive.
also, not sure on this, but hasn't samsung been calling their wifi enabled cameras smart cameras already? another score against that name?
camera...phone....wireless...just call it the cameroneless.
the ability to "sticky" threads would be useful so people too lazy to use the search function won't post a thread about subject matter that has been discussed in depth many a time before
mmm $8000....right in my budget...that was meant for my college education? food? car? bills? uh...
derp watch apple try to start patent wars with camera companies now. "Hey, you can't have a rectangular touchscreen!"
Although honestly Android is a little too similar to iOS. Obviously there are many differences, but it's clear where the inspiration comes from. Microsoft at least did something distinctly original.
Retzius: Cool. So, in an instant, Nikon's new android camera that lacks a phone instantly becomes obsolete, before it even hit the market.
Well Nikon's take will probably be a cheaper, budget type option.
As far as market share, I would say Nikon's compacts have been crapping out lately; moreover, Samsung definitely has much bigger market share in connectivity options and its brand name itself resounds with consumers toward more connectivity style electronics, while Nikon is known more as a conventional camera company.
I'm pretty sure Samsung will be the leader in this new hybrid compact market, if anything because of their brand name and already connected products, particularly their smartphones and TVs.
ahh dang whichever company started making tilt screens popular (i think it was sony).
tilt screens seem kind of like a really bad middle ground. most, if not all, don't tilt enough to be particularly useful, but they're still thicker than regular screens. especially on a non-pocketable camera like this, what difference does a few mm make to accommodate a fully articulating screen that actually offers some more usability. it's not like it's going to be the difference between it fitting in your jeans or not.
well the merge of phone and compacts is finally happening this year.
too bad they still will have to rely on being at a wireless hotspot, will have much worse battery life than most phones (140 shots on this one? I don't know how that translates to call time, but I'm guessing your camera won't last very long if you're shooting, editing, downloading and playing games on it).
Honestly, I don't think going Android is the answer. It's nice to see companies finally doing something to try to revive the compact market (instead of perpetually adding on more crappy scene modes and zoom), but honestly, people have their phones on them all the time now. You don't need the whole Android market on your camera. You just need to develop a UI that offers customization, connectivity, and photo-centric abilities. Why don't camera companies develop these themselves?
Make the camera more personal, more open, and quick-edit capable/fun; don't try to make it a clunkycell
But at least Google is happy ;)
wow, translucent mirrors, now clear pixels. now sony just needs to invent clear lenses for their e-mount ;)
so....basically the hybrid af system does nothing and is just a marketing point (for single shot, non-continuous AF anyway)
jj74e: I'm shocked that Eric Kim has made it to dpreview. I don't think he is particularly impressive and have no idea how he is so famous.
However, I think people are being overly critical about him. While I don't think his photographic work merits his popularity, people here are criticizing him for sharing ideas that have already been said before or posting photos that aren't particularly good, but what's wrong with that?
A lot of people here aren't that familiar with blogging. But in case you didn't know, ideas are freeform, flexible and transferable. Blogging is all about sharing, and as long as you cite your sources, it's great that there's a whole community of people sharing what they seen, read, heard, experienced, etc
Eric Kim is not a great photographer; maybe he's not even that great a writer. But he's a blogger, someone who's confident, supplies regular material, and shares bits of what he does.
Maybe he's not great, but perhaps his well-done sharing is enough to be famous.
Again, I'm not supporting Eric Kim, nor am I trying to defame him. I do not like his work nor his blogging. I am just explaining that to be a great blogger (or video blogger on YouTube for example), you don't necessarily need to have the best work. You just need consistent material, healthy confidence, a good supply of ideas and direction with what you want to share, and not be terrible. Just the art of sharing- sometimes just being who you are and not being afraid to do it publicly is enough to get people to like you.
I'm shocked that Eric Kim has made it to dpreview. I don't think he is particularly impressive and have no idea how he is so famous.
justmeMN: A Silver Award for "Fairly aggressive noise reduction starts blurring detail at lower ISOs and mixes with high levels of chroma noise at higher sensitivities"? That's too generous.
"A Silver Award for "Fairly aggressive noise reduction starts blurring detail at lower ISOs and mixes with high levels of chroma noise at higher sensitivities"? That's too generous."
That's too limited a scope to look from.
WilliamJ: I'm fed up with pointless gadgets. I mean it ! When I first came on Dpreview, it was really interesting and totally photo oriented. Nowadays, there are very few news and on the two or three new topics a day, about half of it is about gadgets. Yet there are hundreds of that sort of leather or leather-like case; who cares of this one, who cares of others too ?
I'd prefer to read more reviews about flashes, filters, deflectors, printers, tripods, photo-calibrated video screens or really inovative "little" accessories like the ones produced by Blackrapid (cf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_oil ) that makes our shooting reactions faster, safer and easier.
Is it too difficult to be more substantial ?
I think dpreview is trying to widen their audience appeal by including more modern applications of photography in the news posts....but maybe they're stretching themselves too thin. I come mostly for the top notch reviews and the forums. I never really came to dpreview for tech updates. A little content organization would help since right now it feels like dpreview is kind of all over the place without presenting anything substantial (besides the reviews).
skytripper: Very stylish, but not nearly protective enough to be useful. A functional case needs to protect the camera from scuffs and scrapes when it is in a bag full of other stuff. Otherwise, it's useless except perhaps as a fashion statement.
were half cases ever meant to be protective?
I wonder if the photographer will note when he used MF or AF
But anyway, the shots should still be decent considering the skill of the user. I'd be less interested in seeing his photos (from a camera-capability standpoint, not from a regular Olympics fan's viewpoint) and more interested in seeing a commentary and the differences and changes he had to make in order to accommodate shooting with the G5.
FuzzTheKingOfTrees: I find it interesting the amount of importance reviewers seem to attach to an ISO button. Surely these people that are going to be using this camera in live view with the 18-55 kit lens permanently attached to the front using in camera effects filters aren't going to be adjusting the ISO; they're going to let the camera do it for them.The only time I adjust my ISO is when I'm shooting with a flash I usually fix it at 400 to add a bit more ambient light and give the batteries a rest but the rest of the time I just let the camera choose the ISO for me.As for the score, I think it's probably fair enough. At the moment the camera is quite expensive for what you get. The D5100, to my eyes, has slightly better IQ at all but the lowest ISOs and at the moment it's cheaper and you get the moving screen. Once the D3200 hits the £325 mark it will be an excellent camera.
The ISO button is important. It's not just point and shoot entry level folk looking at this camera. It could be serious enthusiast landscape photographers on a budget, someone actually looking to improve their photography- the market is huge and isn't limited to people who will never do anything with the camera other than point and shoot.
If you don't need an ISO button, then fine. Maybe some of these upgraders don't even need a button. But many people do, and if anything, it's a good learning experience to be able to adjust it on the fly.
johnparas11zenfoliodotcom: i clicked on the link.. no review?
same, link is not working
maybe they published the news page about the review before posting the actual review? it doesn't seem to be cataloged under the reviews tab either. (not criticizing, just saying we'll probably just have to wait a bit. if they did that on purpose...well....kind of is a criticism, similar with posting the canon mirrorless in a rush before the preview was finished. but probably was an accident or some server issue with all the updates)
jj74e: Boring....why are camera companies always so complacent? They don't innovate themselves; they just copy when another company comes out with something, and usually that something isn't particularly innovative or well implemented anyway.
There's already too many scene modes thrown up all over the market, so then they starting hurling filters everywhere. Suddenly multi-exposure combinations to reduce noise and increase DR became popular. Then GPS became a must in several models and now Wi-fi will be snaking around all the model refreshes.
Not that these are bad things, but none of them are real innovations that make the actual camera better. A smartphone can already do all these; the compacts are slowly catching up with smartphones- when will a company make a feature that makes the compact worth the pocket space again?
They should be trying to win market shares by advancing technology though, not simply do what others do. Like in the smartphone business or to an extent even the laptop business.
I don't think same analysis times is applicable here since Samsung has used wifi in their compacts for a couple years now I think. But that's a good point.
Barney Britton: Call it a pre-emptive strike, but before the comments get started in earnest, I'd just like to make it clear that no camera reviews were harmed in the creation and implementation of these new site features :)
@mssimo Whoa, I just noticed that. That's weird...the logo in the upper left of the website is teal, but everything else is still blue- employers' icons in the forum/comments, the icon in the tabs, etc.
i'm using chrome on 2009 macbook, OS 10.5.6
Being able to sticky certain threads would be an awesome addition as well. People aren't always inclined to just read random user-written articles.