waxwaine: Still not very good borders, but a lot better center than my Sigma 18-200mm DC at 200mm and f6.3. Strangely my Pentax SMC-K 135mm f2.5 has more reach(frame) than my Sigma at 200mm.
When comparing "reach" are you focusing to near infinity? Focal lengths are generally calculated at infinity focus. Lenses with wider zoom and/or focusing ranges often change apparent focal length as you focus closer.
I know people think this is evil big Nikon picking on the little guy. But you would be a careless and irresponsible company to not protect your R+D and investors if you didn't fight hard for your technology and patents. I would expect any well managed company to do the same.
SushiEater: It is not even a drop in the ocean!!!!!
Yeah, 15% profit.
mrdancer: While some will poo-poo these phone cameras due to their sensor size, they really are on the cutting edge of camera technology, particularly with respect to software enhancements. This can serve as a guide of what is to come in standalone cameras. Expect to see these features on m43 in a year or two, and in DSLRs a year or two after that.
I don't know about DSLR or pro cameras. Most of these features depend on outputting JPEG, not RAW files.
Cool, just ordered one yesterday. New features before I even get it!
3dreal: This will easily be compensated when the Quattros and the DSLR-equivalent are ready.
They'd be lucky to make $15 million in revenue on the Quattro, much less profits. THat's an incredibly niche product.
(unknown member): Only 720p Video instead 8K ?
They didn't gigapan the behind-the-scenes, man! :)
Crazy this only has only 30-something comments after 12 hours while a new camera can have thousands. Shows we care far more about gear than photography on this site. This is an amazing piece of work and something none of us could ever hope to photograph. Sad more people don't appreciate it on a site that is frequented by photographers.
"More than anything, when people see this photo, I hope they appreciate being brought somewhere that they can't go"
I for one definitely do. Good work.
ArcaSwiss: Why do humans insist on building such structures ?
Same reason we climb mountains.
Revel ruined the very useful photoshop.com photo hosting/sharing site. All that effort and rebranding for something with half the features it had 4 years ago.
rugosa: Nikon blamed slow sales in the Americas, Europe and Asia. I guess sales in the Antarctic were on the increase.
Or we can assume Africa and Australia are doing well.
Low Budget Dave: I don't even understand how camera companies are able to lose money. The markup is huge, and they come out with new products every 20 days or so.
Canon and Nikon make a pretty reliable profit even in a down market, but everyone else breaks even. I don't get it. It costs them a couple of hundred dollars to make a product that they are selling for a thousand.
Where is all the money going? Those commercials with Ashton Kutcher must cost a lot more than I thought.
Where is the money going? R+D. Engineering optics and sensors is not child's play.
Incidentally, Canon is making the most money and they haven't had a major sensor tech update in 5 years. R+D savings = profit.
Picturenaut: "So conventional DSLR users buy more lenses. Mirrorless camera users are more likely to purchase the camera with a kit lens and not many people purchase any additional lenses. Some high-end mirrorless users with Sony NEX-7 or Olympus OM-D buy more but the majority of mirrorless users are the entry-class users."
This explains exactly why Canikon hesitates to move boldly into the mirrorless market, and why e.g. Canon comes up so slowly with new lenses for the M system. For most users their mirrorless cameras are a sort of new compact with better IQ. Interestingly even entry DLSR users obviously tend more to get at least one second lens. Obviously most customers are conservative, and only SLR type cameras represent for them a real system camera.
Doesn't that also mean that Canon and Nikon (and Pentax) should have aimed higher with their mirrorless bodies? Sony, Olympus, Panasonic and Samsung certainly have as of late.
Most $500 DSLR customers only have one or two cheapo lenses, too. Someone willing to drop $1000 on a body is going to spend at least that much on lenses, normally.
tkbslc: If Sigma wants to grow their camera business, they need to put some effort into designing at least one model that has a bit more all-around utility. I am amazed at the detail at ISO 100-200 from these cameras. However, the lack of ability to shoot in lower light, stray more than an hour from a charger, shoot video, or focus on anything moving, means Sigma cameras are not really an option for more than 1% of photographers.
I'm also suprised that with their poor high ISO, they continually affix slower lenses to their DP line. Give us an f1.4 lens and maybe I'm OK being stuck under ISO 1600. And with battery issues, an OVF tuned to the attached lens would be a good solution.
Sigma said they want to grow their business, not me. Look at the products that are most popular, they don't force you to shoot on a tripod.
Who cares what generations of photographers did? That has zero bearing on what customers buy or demand today.
@RitterRunkel: I understood the point just fine. But if he wants to target a tiny niche with this kind of camera, his market share is going to be lucky to even stay at 1%. He mentioned he'd like to grow that. I'm not saying they need to copy Sony, but they could focus on making their cameras a bit less "quirky" and give them some features considered standard in 2010's like HD video and higher ISO.
If Sigma wants to grow their camera business, they need to put some effort into designing at least one model that has a bit more all-around utility. I am amazed at the detail at ISO 100-200 from these cameras. However, the lack of ability to shoot in lower light, stray more than an hour from a charger, shoot video, or focus on anything moving, means Sigma cameras are not really an option for more than 1% of photographers.
Bervilat: What a cool flash unit on the X-T1. How Canikon have nothing like this?
Cool? It looks like an accessory for a 1990's gameboy.
qwertyasdf: Always wanna know, how did they do it?
Lasers from a giant evil robot
Hachu21: Max apertures dug from official Canon samples Exifs:24mm => f/2 (we allready know)31.1/33.7mm => f/3.239.4mm => f/3.6
From the EU samples there is a 27mm (51mm equiv) shot at f3.5, so we know it doesn't drop to f3.6 by 40mm equiv.