ManuelVilardeMacedo: ...So this means Canon has just killed the EOS M?
I think it just means that this is their new entry level Rebel. If it killed anything, it might have been the 1200D, although this is essentially what the 1200D would have looked like, minus some grip.
I guess they are hoping most people don't even know what those numbers mean.
I don't get the fervor over this. It only saves about 10mm in every dimension vs the T3/1100D but people are acting like this is going to fit in their pants pocket now.
Timmbits: A failed attempt at introducing something to compete with an NX20 with a 30mm f2 on it (or a kit lens if you prefer).
I doubt Canon even really remembers that the NX20 exists. Canon will sell more of these in a month than Samsung has sold NX bodies total since launch.
Not saying anything about the NX20 as a product, it just isn't even in the same league as Canon products in terms of sales.
The way these have been going, I'll buy it in 18 months when it hits $350 body only.
tkbslc: This doesn't seem smaller enough to matter in terms of total size with lens mounted or in terms of total kit size.
It's small the the 40mm on, but that's not exactly an everyday lens at 64mm equivalent.
Maybe. I do recall looking at the E510 and E410 in store once and while not that different on paper, the difference was significant. Perhaps you are right that I need to hold it to appreciate.
Winston Loo: just look at this and tell me that Canon's strategy makes any sense?
A comparison of equivalent lenses (18-36mm equiv):Olympus E-M5 + Olympus 9-18mm f/4-5.6 -- 555g Filter size 52mmCanon 100D + Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 - - 1077g Filter size 82mmAnd the Olympus lens is slightly faster! but has no hood.
Could you have possibly picked a more ridiculous lens comparison? I'm not sure.
How about this one?
Entropius: So Canon just invented the E-410. Cool!
Yeah, but with usable ISO 800.
photo nuts: "The focusing speed of the updated hybrid phase and contrast-detect design remains unchanged, which unfortunately means that it still lags behind current mirrorless cameras from Sony, Olympus and Panasonic."
- Thanks Canon for your LACK of progress in the contrast AF department. I can now happily stay with the super OM-D.
Like you were going to swap back anyway.
Shunda77: Your sensor's so old that Noah was told to put two of them on the ark.
Canon can rebut with "Your profits are thinner than your pancake zooms!"
peevee1: Wait, are you serious? 18-55 STM is push-pull? All plastic (including mount) for $150 in kit???
Sure doesn't appear like it from the pictures.
thx1138: Actually this product makes some sense as compared to the totally unnecessary T5i, but I wonder if it means Canon's heart is not really in mirrorless. An EOS-M2 + several more lenses would have than either of these cameras.
Maybe in terms of exciting camera nerds like those of us on the forum, but would it have meant much in terms of sales?
(unknown member): Canon's answer to ILC? Not going all in on the M as an ILC solution? Works for me.
I think they are just trying to be disruptive as possible to mirrorless systems while hanging on to high DSLR sales. I don't think they want a top selling mirrorless system because that market is peanuts compared to their compact and DSLR systems.
Benarm: Canon's second failed attempt at taking a jab at mirrorless market. The longer they avoid producing something competitive to NEX/Oly/Panny, the more Canon will lag behind. And why would they put a 2009 sensor on it? Fail.
I love when people say Canon is lagging behind. Should we compare Sony and Olympus profits to Canon?
This doesn't seem smaller enough to matter in terms of total size with lens mounted or in terms of total kit size.
I get that they feel the specs of the T4i were still good enough to compete (and I think that is true) but why even bother releasing the same camera again? At least they could have called it the T4ii or 650Ds or whatever.
It's probably a smart move though as 650D prices were tanking. People going in to buy a new DSLR might be fooled into buying the newest model (even though it is 99% the same).
yudhir: What is new?
cd cooker: The CEO of Canon should be fired! How could he let this happen! T2i,T3i,T4i,T5i all use basically the same sensor!!
And they sell very well, how could the CEO let that happen!
robmanueb: Nikon Coolpix A killer. Faster lens, quarter of the price and it has an optical viewfinder.
5.6/1.5= 3.7x larger sensor.
And I'm not even a demigod!
CameraLabTester: The film advance lever should be made into a generator to charge the batteries...
36 clicks for another "roll"? :)