tkbslc: It's as expensive as a Canon G7X, with the same image quality, but I can't use it without a phone attached. Instant fail.
It's definitely capable of great output, it's just in a form factor that makes zero sense for 99.9% of us.
Kind of like a car still technically can roll down the street with no engine, given a push.
It only works in Auto Mode and you can't tell what the framing is or what is being focused on.
It's as expensive as a Canon G7X, with the same image quality, but I can't use it without a phone attached. Instant fail.
garyknrd: I looked at his website and went to his workshop page. One of the trips was around 10K without airfare. For 9 days double occupancy.My question is who is the target for these trips? There must be an advantage to going on a trip like this rather than going on your own. What is it?
I think it is pretty arrogant to think that you are so smart that you can figure it out all on your own and you can't learn from someone else. There's a reason that employers value experience above education. Reading something on the internet or in a book is not the same as living it.
lemonadedrinker: What is all the nonsense with the name across the image? Who cares who took them; they're beautiful pictures ruined with the distraction of the name thing at the bottom-saying to all of us Look at me,I'm as important as the whale.Eugene Smith never put his name on a picture. Nor did Edward Steichen. Nor any other genius of the arcane art of photography.
Eugene Smith didn't have to worry about someone copy/pasting his photo off the internet in 2 clicks.
Going on a tour with an expert means you get taken to the right places at the right times in the right light so you are all but guaranteed to take home great pictures.
Some people forget that there are different income brackets including some for which $10k for a 9 day trip is not a significant sum.
tkbslc: I think they are going after the wrong competition. NOBODY has a chance against the depth of Canon and Nikon in the FF DSLR market. But right now there is only one* FF mirrorless player. THere's plenty of room to compete there, especially if you can get some compact lenses in play. They could play up the retro love with an affordable K1000 rebirth along with some awesome compact primes. Of course it would require a different mount, but there aren't many current FF lenses in K mount anyway.
*excluding Leica because they aren't really mainstream
Pentax DSLR users are already a tiny minority and a small minority of them will pony up for FF. So I hope they are planning on niche-market type sales with this camera. If that's their target, then I wish them well.
I think they could actually be a raging success in the retro FF mirrorless market though. Follow Fujifilm's lead, but with a FF sensor. Make a nice adapter with metering for legacy lenses as well as a series of nice small primes. Win.
Or be content being the smallest DSLR player with revenue barely covering R+D.
dansclic: Well, thé aps c lenses are so so. Considering thé fact that they will have to build up à complete set of FF lenses, it is not obvious that people will switch to pentax, see what happens with sony. Choosing a FF brandname means choosing a complete system having wide open primes and teles, aso.
What if you don't like shopping flea markets and ebay? How many are there at the Camera shop?
John C Tharp: Pentax has one thing that they bring to the market that no one else really has- real weather sealing, that can embarrass competitor's professional (1D X, D4s) models, in bodies, lenses, and accessories.
Pentax would do well to play to this strength!
Pentax has never had the performance to compete with Canon and Nikon's top sports and wildlife gear. It wouldn't matter if it was submersible, you aren't going to find the pros switching to a Pentax for that kind of work. Not to mention the lens situation.
I think they are going after the wrong competition. NOBODY has a chance against the depth of Canon and Nikon in the FF DSLR market. But right now there is only one* FF mirrorless player. THere's plenty of room to compete there, especially if you can get some compact lenses in play. They could play up the retro love with an affordable K1000 rebirth along with some awesome compact primes. Of course it would require a different mount, but there aren't many current FF lenses in K mount anyway.
Marty4650: I suppose this fills a gap for the Pentax users between the K3 and the 645Z. But I really wonder if full frame Pentax is necessary? There are over a dozen full frame cameras currently available on the market, and Pentax might need a whole new line of lenses for it. And the K3 is pretty darn good.
I guess the market will decide. A few Pentax users will love it and buy it, but I doubt it will attract many converts from other brands with deep lens catalogs.
They did for the Ricoh GXR and Pentax Q.
tkbslc: If you really wanted a FF DSLR, you'd have switched to Canon, Nikon or Sony about 5-10 years ago.
If you were just starting out, Do you think you'd pick a system with one body option and that has had no new FF lenses in 20 years over Canon and Nikon?
If you really wanted a FF DSLR, you'd have switched to Canon, Nikon or Sony about 5-10 years ago.
Think I'll stick with my iPad Air 2.
Thanks for elaborating on my sarcastic quip.
Rooru S: what the hell...I could buy another camera with that price...
I did say "pretend".
Craig from Nevada: Just purchased the HD10. I was looking for a laptop for travel, but got this on impulse. They claim 8 hours of battery life (I have my doubts about that claim). The size and price was a selling point. I am hoping to send emails, read a book, and watch a movie with it either on planes or hotels--nothing more. The keyboard case was $99.00.
We shall see how this goes.
If it's a movie and book you bought from Amazon, it will work wonderfully.
I bet you comment about your BMW on news articles about the new Civic.
I really wanted to like my FIre Tablets, but there just isn't enough pros to compensate for being locked out of regular Google Apps and the Play store.
Not one that you can pretend is a $5000 camera, though!
$185 sounds fair if it had the LCD built in. Without an LCD, I think maybe $40?
For those asking why this is a worthwhile test, I see a lot of comments where people say an RX10 (or the FZ1000) can replace a DSLR kit. I think this shows one way in which that is not true. In many ways, it likely can.
I would have liked to have seen the two reviewers swap cameras half way through to eliminate operator variables.