rrccad: .....When it comes to Raw, the E-M5 II appears to give a very similar performance to its predecessor. This means it's still competitive against some Canon APS-C cameras, but lags behind the likes of Sony's a6000 or Nikon's D5500. And, if you compare the E-M5 II's ISO 6400 results to the ISO 6400 and ISO 12,800 output from those camera, (snip)..
is this really the case?
there's caveats there.
For instance in low light high ISO - it's really hard to say the A6000 is that spectacular, and I'd say at ISO 6400, the M5 II is actually better than the A6000.
Also the NX1 looks worse when compared RAW and low light than the M5 II using the same measure, as there's some kind of black clipping happening that complete destroys any sort of detail in the darker regions.
Looking in the area where you have the green fake grass patch in the dark corner doesn't match at all with what you are saying in the view as far as high ISO's.
@prossi - that is a benefit of the higher resolution, not reduced noise. Look at a nice grey or black patch under the low light setting and tell me the Sony looks any cleaner.
bluevellet: Low 80's usually means silver award nowadays. A few years back, it was scores in the 70's that equalled silver awards.
Relatively fast review in any case.
That's fair. Thanks for the clarification.
For about 2 years now I don't see ANY difference in APS-C vs 2x crop high ISO noise.
Yeah, almost nothing for "Cons" and still a silver. But the review was positive and I can't imagine someone not buying the camera based on Silver vs Gold award.
It kind of seems like they had to try really hard to come up with the Cons list. Looks like a winner for m4/3 and mirrorless fans.
mugupo: Wait till Sony A7000 which just around the corner, it will likely put this camera to shame. with EVF and better video function.
ALWAYS something around the corner. You have to jump on the merry-go-round sometime.
naththo: Your updated RAW file looks much better now. Much less steep in shadow is the main thing we are after. Too much shadow in contrast lose shadow detail fairly too much is a no no to photography.
I consider it a big deal. You should not have to RAW process your snapshots to make them look better than phone pics.
MontyMouse: Those who go on about the NX500 lack of EVF. Those of us who wear reading glasses need an adjustable EVF as we don't normally carry glasses. Also it's not fair to say just go and buy an NX1, the NX500 is a carry everywhere camera and this oversight is significant to us. I am invested in the NX system and I would like this camera to add to my NX lens collection but it would be the only camera I have where I have to take my reading glasses with me OR use AF and hope for the best.
MikeBruce: I am not sure if we are seeing mostly lens performance here but man these photos look flat and de-saturated. I would like to see some photos with a higher quality lens either way.
They were shot with the highest quality lenses, the two f2.8 zooms.
I was shocked how unappealing they looked, too. Maybe it's got a horrid JPEG engine?
tkbslc: It's basically a GM1 with a little size added to make room for the odd flippy screen. Extra button or two. No surprises here.
Well it does have an extra button, but looking closer, it is an iA button and cannot be customized, so probably not that handy for most.
Didn't notice the lack of the C1/C2 dials.
Definitely a more "Auto" oriented camera.
0mega: I just don't see how this can compete with Sony mirror-less.
It competes very well with the Sony A5x00 line. Not sure what you mean. There's no appreciable difference in sensor quality and m4/3 has a WAY better lens selection.
It's basically a GM1 with a little size added to make room for the odd flippy screen. Extra button or two. No surprises here.
yslee1: Another rant: Front opening backpacks need to die already.
I hate zippers because they scratch my stuff. Rather have a long flap that I can easily flip up.
Rupert Bottomsworth: Finally, after years of shame, I can go out in public with a camera bag that is cool and one that will give me street cred. I'll be able to mix with the hipsters! :D
Seriously, what a load of marketing BS. I'll just continue to use my Crumpler 5 million dollar bag that I've had for years while laughing at any sucker who forks out dollars for the "Urban Approach". LOL!
Yeah, kind of ironic rant given that you own the original, "not a camera bag" camera bag designed for appearance.
arrow501: F3.0-6.9 *sigh*No EVF *sigh*
Confused about what category camera is in *sigh*
Wow, it is just like a PEN except totally different in every way.
Josh SZ: A picture is worth a thousand words...
And spawns 10000 more? :)
Wow! Go Tamron!!
tkbslc: It would be nice to see more Chinese companies that are actually creators rather than cloners.
I was criticizing the actions of companies and the inaction of a specific government. I also wished for MORE companies to be innovative in China, meaning that I feel some are and that more could be.
I certainly didn't use statements like "White America".
I missed the debate here, but I won't stand for being called "racist". There was ZERO racism in the statement above.