Jonathan F/2: Best camera of the show. Period. 1" sensor killer.
RX100 III is smaller and has a 1 stop advantage given the faster lens. Canon GX-7, too. I don't think it kills anything, even if it is a cool design.
Jacques Cornell: Is the LX100 going to eat the GM5's lunch?
For certain kinds of consumers, yes. But not if you want to use different kinds of lenses or shoot past 70mm equivalent.
HeadinSouth: This makes no sense not including 4k video.I can only think that there is a replacement for the GX7 right around the corner.
If you imagine who the target consumer of this camera is I don't think it is a confusing decision at all.
Very nice looking camera! That 35-100 is matched perfectly. Great mini-2 lens kit!
sean lee: Because this is too thick to be pocketable, GM5 is better choice for me.If I need to buy between these two.....
Because you only need one lens for 95% of situations when it has these specs. It's faster than most pancake primes already. It's the difference between a small belt pouch or one camera on a neck strap, vs a small shoulder bag and several lenses.
GM5 also has no viewfinder.
KameraFever: I also wish this had a mic input. Still, great camera.
Fast lens won't keep a whole couch full of people in focus at the same time. Nor does a high ISO thin DOF shot compare to a perfectly lit bounced flash shot with everything in focus. Different tools for different kinds of shots. Someone with updated skills would know that. I suggest you update your own before making poor attempts at belittling others.
caravan: I was excited until I read that it had a zoom,seeing that,I immediately lost interest.
The zoom is faster than most pancake primes, so not sure what you feel is lost. But I'd suggest you check out the X100T launched a few days ago.
What 11-34mm f1.7-2.8 zoom are you going to choose? It's not compact if you need a pocket full of pancake primes to match what this lens can do by itself.
What would m4/3 system users pay to get that lens with a mount on it! 9-34mm f1.7-2.8 is amazing in a pancake!
This seems a lot more attractive than the G1X II thanks to the viewfinder and slightly more compact design.
Najib: What's with Canon's retarded numbering system? The camera looks great, but G7X? Who is in charge of naming these things? They need to be fired. They could have marketed this way better, as a whole new series of camera, instead of a G-series, which over the years has gotten worse and worse and watered down. Lets go back to 2006, add an X to the G7 from back then :facepalm: Again, great specs, but horrible marketing and it's only Day 1. This camera warranted a whole new model numbering hierarchy...And yes, it does matter, because not everyone goes on DPReview daily and knows the entire Canon lineup inside and out...
G7X is an odd name, agree.
phazelag: Did you see the battery life? Number of shots?
And its not smaller than the Sonys?
Other than Menu familiarity what advantage does it have on the Sony?
I was interested in this, but now I its a non starter.
The advantage is a longer lens that stays faster throughout the zoom range and Canon's better menu and control dials. But I agree, that's pretty weak battery. better keep a spare on you.
Tough call between this or the RX100 III. Viewfinder and better battery life, or better controls and longer/faster lens.
tkbslc: What will it take to please you people? This has better AF module than a 1DX and 10fps, dual cards, best video AF in any SLR, dual Digic 6 processors, etc. This is a beast.
Bad S/N is only at low ISO, actually. Canon sensors are still the best (or at least on par) at higher ISO.
Zigadiboom: This camera reminds of the Lexus ES300. Superb build quality and outstanding reliability with a top shelf 65 point auto focus system.
But under the hood it has the same v6 engine(20.2mp) as its lesser Camry stablemate.
True its not the same 18mp sensor that we have kept seeing from Canon since the time of Jesus but the 20.2mp is really not leaps and bounds better. In fact the gains are minimal.
I understand this very much a performance based camera but image quality is still paramount...and at $1800 it is simply astounding to know that you can get way better image quality for the price.
I think you are making the wrong analogy. Since the engine equates to performance, I'd say it's like Toyota released a Camry with a V8 supercharged 450hp that can do the quarter mile in 13 seconds.
Koemans: For 1799 dollars you get
-20 Megapixels, only 4 years behind its peers. -20.2MP brand new sensor, this is the same brand new sensor as seen in the 70D. Dont believe me? Wait for other crop camera's from canon to get a 'brand new' 20.2 megapixel sensor aswell for years to come-No touchscreen, only 4 years behind its peers. -No Wifi, these features are pretty much mandatory for a 'pro' camera these days. People no longer want to pay hundreds of additional dollars to unlock features in an expensive camera. -Interval timer, landscape photographers already use external devices and a fullframe for that. -65 autofocus points,. They would stick to 19 if they could, Competition forced them!
The 7DII lacks identity to me
I bet you, Next year when a new 5d gets announced, we will get WIFI, 4K and all the other features that are missing in the 7DII, for the sake of product diversification.
Canon is like the iphone 6. Get the same specifications as the competition, pay twice the amount.
Same specification as others? Like what? Not even the pro FF cameras have AF like this 7D mark 2.
mantra: hi but is at least water sealed ?????
can't understand the choice of the sensor 1.6 , it's only good for sport (iso between 100 and 400) above..if it's like the 70d is not usable for me
a sensor 1.3 would be really awesome , the image quality of 1d mark III or IV is still amazing
i tried the 70D and r it's more noisy then the 20D :(
well ,i will wait the full reviewi was waitining for a 3d or even a medium format but...i will save my money
1.3x crop camera would make it a 1Dmk5 and it would run about $3900. Is that really what you want?
Ruy Penalva: I think Canon did not the more important job: a FF and better sensor. So, apart from some minor and utile real improvements, 7D MKII is born with valid time expired.
Of course there are big differences. That's why the pro FF bodies are $3000-6000 and this one is under $2k.
Koemans: WFT-E7A Wireless Transmitter II $849
Canon's product diversification department working as intended!
Coming up next model : WIFI! We have to give the monkeys some reason to upgrade, right?
It's a bit overpriced, but for a pro sports body you have to be able to send the images off a bit faster than a $2 regular wireless module can handle. This has the hardware (and even wired gigabit) to handle the kind of bandwidth 10fps can pump out.
JoeAmateur: I can tell that a lot of commenters have never used the 7D. The MkII has everything an action/birding/event photographer could ask for: super fast focussing and shooting, great movie capabilities, super-rugged. Great job, Canon! (Except the missing touch screen.)
What crop cameras have that kind of burst rate with an AF module that actually comes close to keeping 1/3 of the shots in focus? Certainly nothing from a mirrorless camera.
slpianoproject: Hahahahahaha! Wow really? 799$ maybe... 1799$ body only? No way!!! This is 2014 not 1995!
You previously had to pay $6000 to get slightly worse AF and processor module than this camera has for $1800.
What are you comparing it to at $800 that comes close in terms of performance?