SushiEater: Canon is doing it for many years so no surprise if Nikon going to do it on the heels of really bad profit report.
I use third party batteries in all 3 of my Canon cameras. Not sure what you are talking about.
jdrpc: Bla, bla bla!...shouldn't picture taking be more important than moaning?what an horrible place this world has become!
Thanks for your positive addition.
beavertown: There will be a lawsuit between Nikon and its customers soon.
The firmware update is a cheat. Nikon needs to pay back the money for their customers who lenses and accessories are no longer to be used after the update.
This would be pretty difficult to win in court. Nikon never made any kind of agreement with its customers that third-party accessories will work with their cameras. Whoever sold you the battery did. (or lens in case of Sigma issues recently).
It's a shady thing to do, but it isn't illegal, nor did it violate any agreement or contract.
Treeshade: Lens mount: Canon EF, Canon EF-M, Fujifilm X, Nikon F (DX), Four Thirds, Micro Four Thirds, Pentax KAF, Sony Alpha, Sony E (NEX), Samsung NX
This 2.8 wide-angle would fill the long-overdue APS-C prime range. Even EOS M got some love. Now everybody is happy!
We've had sharp 10mm f3.5 zooms for years and the Tokina 11-16mm f2.8. Not sure what everyone was waiting for here.
If a product is not for you, you could always, oh, I don't know,... Not buy it?
Complaining about a niche product for something you have no interest in seems strange.
dual12: How many Canon fanboys will fall for this...again?
you think F2 on a 1/1.7" is comparable to F2 on a APS-C?
Ryan Gardner: I can't help but think this camera lacks dual pixel AF because they don't want to cannibalize DSLR sales. Any model below the 70D would be eaten alive by the M2...
Most people don't really use the LCD to take pics with DSLRs, do they? Not sure why the speed of the liveview AF would really be the deciding factor.
bluevellet: Canon fanboys have been harping on this EOS M2 for so long, now that it's finally here, it's already obsolete. Canon isn't even trying.
Shareholders should be the ones applauding them for remaining in profitability. Photographers are maybe getting bored, but Canon is in business to make money as a primary goal.
Henry M. Hertz: waiting for the PRO model in the eos-m line.
The last two EOS-M releases have not been available in the U.S. which means I doubt they'd waste the R+D to launch a "pro" model.
Catalin Stavaru: Basically, there wasn't a lot that was wrong with the EOS M. Autofocus is now fixed, picture-to-picture time much reduced, and Wi-Fi added. Basic very compact camera with the highest APS-C image quality. I am beginning to like it. Hopefully I can pick up one for $300 soon.
Sony doesn't have a fast pancake or I'd be using one instead of the M.
tron555: What is the reason it will not be sold in the European or US markets? Seems like that limits the sales possibilities just a bit? Does anyone know why Canon is doing this? I'm not interested in such an ugly, bland camera with so few features, just wondering why they limit sales to only one region.
They lost their shorts on the original EOS M here in the U.S. They are still trying to unload them at less than half the original price. I am betting they feel lucky to break even on them at this point.
lol101: Doesn't this new camera remind you of a previous one?
I think it was called the EOS M but I could be mistaken...
Oh wait! My bad: the price is different...
Price is the same at launch = $800 USD with 18-55.
io_bg: Guys, you don't get it. Canon are releasing this camera in order to mark the forthcoming 5th anniversary of this 18 mp sensor - the longest serving one in camera history!
If you are a Canon shareholder, you really are celebrating. That has done wonders for profitability.
Dave Luttmann: Dead Camera Walking....
70D has an innovative feature that benefits almost nobody. Who uses their LCD to AF on a mid-size DSLR? Tripod shooters didn't need fast AF. It only helps video users, and honestly, with STM lenses the video AF was already quite good.
If they'd put dual pixel in the EOS M2, then it would be an innovation that impacts every photo.
Mark Wolg: If you've ever handled one of the M's for more than a day, you'd discover it has the best touch interface of any camera out there. I hate touch interfaces, and I like it.
Anyway, I do wish they'd do a bit more with it. It would be a killer B camera with the 70d's sensor and a slightly faster data pipe.
I used to say I wanted a GX7 like EOS M body. But since it is apparent there will not be a decent selection of lenses, I'm a bit hesitant to invest anymore in the system.
I'll just consider my $300 clearance price EOS M +22mm like it's a really cheap X100 sans finder and throw it away when it breaks.
The 22mm f2 is as good or better than the 20mm f1.7 for m4/3. For less than the price of the 20mm alone, I can get the 22mm with a camera. Sure it focuses like a EPL2 or GF1, but it's more good enough for travel and social photography. Faster than a typical compact and 10x faster than a typical phone. It's not like I'm going to shoot football with a compact ILC anyway.
I think of it like a much better version of the Ricoh GR or Coolpix A for 1/3 to 1/4 the price. APS-C with a 35mm equiv f2 prime for $300 is pretty freaking sweet. Nobody expects Coolpix A to focus fast.
Chris Yates: The evolution of Dual pixel (courtesy of 70D) on this camera was a given we all thought. Boy, were we all fools!
the fact that this is only available in Japan and the 11-22 is not available in the U.S. says to me Canon is not actively working on such a camera.
there is not an eletronic view finder!i can't understand canon
it will be like EOS M1
Loads of mirrorless cameras don't have finders.
Jr: If this had the dual pixel focus.. I'd be all over it. Bla.
I know. It makes no sense that they didn't use the 70D sensor when it is the best mirrorless AF system on the market.
I enjoy my 60D and EOS M, but with each passing lame announcement from Canon, I wonder if they are the last Canon cameras I'll own. It seems like Canon is stuck in 2009-10 with no apparent desire to move forward.