Joe11: Simply add same sensor type of the X-Pro1 in a little bit smaller size to the X10, increase the price of this new X10 by maybe 200-300 Euros. Then all will be happy! This is what most are dreaming about! Hopefully Fujifilm also reads this post and proceeds accordingly. Thank you very much in advance.
That's what Canon has done with the G1X. The trick for Fuji will be to develop a decent zoom lens for that size of sensor in a small camera.
Seahster: Hi everyone,
I've been a happy owner of the X-Pro1 for a few weeks now, and have been shooting and documenting my thoughts on this camera on http://handcarryonly.com/tagged/fuji in case anyone is interested.
I would say it is not a camera for everyone and every situation but for street and travel photography, it is where it truly excels, with the high IQ and low weight package.
I have some images of mine on the Canon forum. I do like the look and feel of the images that you have taken a lot.
mcslsk: It all comes down for me to IQ/size/price. IQ is very good, size without a good pancake zoom bigger than what I would be looking for, price way higher than any difference in IQ there may be between this and the G1X.
The zoom lens of the G1X is excellent. Let's see what Fuji will offer.
boho: dpreview: "... and comfortable rubber grips"sorry mates! I don't buy it. it looks to me almost as impossible to hold the G1X with one hand by the grip as it is to hold the G12, which, by the way, is impossible. and this is a big set-back for me, because a camera with tilting screen can't hang on your neck, because the strap hangs in between the screen and your eyes. and if you can't hold in one hand by the grip, so how do you hold it? this is just a lousy ergonomy.
It may look impossible to you - but did you try it? I can hold the camera with my right hand just fine. Thumb on the back, pointer finger on shutter release, rest of fingers (3 in my case) on front around grip.
It all comes down for me to IQ/size/price. IQ is very good, size without a good pancake zoom bigger than what I would be looking for, price way higher than any difference in IQ there may be between this and the G1X.
Great images, and the low light, high ISO is performance of the cam is great. I've been looking at the NEX7, the G1X and the X-pro1 and decided for the G1X because of size/IQ combination (and, I must admit, price).
Just Ed: It's tempting as I get very tired of carrying my D90 and backpack full of equipment. However, the lens is just too slow for me. Never could deal with the slow kit 3.5-5.6 lenses...this is of that ilk. A shorter zoom range and faster glass might well get my attention.
Forgot to add that I looked at this camera when my local dealer first got them in and it just reinforced my opinion of the slow lens. The demo camera had difficulty focusing on items within the shop which were at normal room lighting levels. Eventually it would get them in focus, but it took too long to be useful for my kind of photography.
Can't confirm the focus issue indoors under normal indoor lighting conditions. May be you experienced the close focus limitations of the lens and did not switch to close up mode? Happened to me in the beginning all the time because I was so used to the G11.
High ISO images are very impressive!
Guthega: OK folks! Time to lighten up. The pros and cons of the G1 X have been covered ad nauseam and some of the posters here are just being trolls. That might have been intentional or it might not. If the following page doesn't make you smile please be advised that you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/03/hammerforum-com
It is good that people can and do exchange their views and share information. No one is forced to look at this or read through it.
unofr: what about this cam for photo sub ???Macro @ 20cm !!!!!! :o(
Sorry, unofr, misunderstood your post.
Mr AB: according to http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/G1X/G1XA.HTM seems that G1X has some light leaks problems that Canon also knows... maybe are not so heavy but could annoying someone.
In any case I think that this camera is well featured with some rather small drawbacks.
Look a little further down, it's been discussed, it is not an issue.
Steven Rounds: In regards to the "Silver Award" given to the Canon G1 X by DP Review in its test review...check out this link:
Note that if you search DP Review for "Canon PowerShot G1 X light leak", you'll come up with NO links or discussions of the problem...what the hell is going on at DP Review? Is it run by Canon fanboyz?
Let's talk from lawyer to lawyer :-) It is a non issue. Period.
0 messages from you in the forum. Did you really just register to post this crap?
Howard, hate to disagree with you but it does affect every G1X (confirmed by Canon) but it is, as you say, so unlikely to show that it is not a practical issue. I wonder whether one could even create an automatic fix as the area in which this appears in the image and the shape of it is always the same.
Nudibranco: I do not see this camera as a compelling one in the current market. It struggles to "bridge" the gap between the larger sensor higher quality images and the compactness and versatility of smaller cameras.
Basically it is trying to be small enough to be pocketable and maybe it is but it compromises too much on Focus speed (this is just from the review and frankly it is probably not that bad) and distance (which instead is a big disadvantage at least in my applications).
In the "bridge" market I prefer the M43 offering which has lots of flexibility, kit options that are smaller and lighter, and similar or better image quality (thanks to the interchangeable lenses). And some recent compact cameras like the S95/S100, Oly XZ1, Nikon P series are not far off in image quality at low ISO (but with distinct advantages over the G1x). Canon is just under pressure in this market segment and trying a new approach (this is the only Canon revolution for now).
And your point is?
RunStrom: When my Nikon DSLR and all the lenses and filters in a flipside 300 backpack is a pain to carry, this is the one camera that I would “choose” to have in a pocket.
And anything that moves within that landscape - unless it moves so fast that you need continuous shooting to capture the right moment
Valentinian: A large-sensor-fixed-lens-mirrorless camera doesn't make sense in my opinion due to the fast evolution of the mirrorless system. mirrorless cameras of today are much much better of mirrorless cameras of two years ago. It's better to buy a decent interchangable lens mirrorles camera today and a couple of excellent lenses. Two short years from now you can upgrade to a much better mirrorless camera and already have the lenses. But if you buy the G1X today, what will you do with it in 2014?The question is: don't Canon and Nikon understand that in a couple of years the mirrorless cameras quality will match the best DSLR ?
If you own a DSLR and lenses, it does not make any sense to buy a new system and new lenses when all you want is DSLR quality in a small package. No sense what so ever. That are the customers (like me) for the G1X. A fixed lens makes all the sense in the world because I will not cary an additional tele zoom, leave alone several prime lenses, when all I want is a small camera with DSLR IQ.
Nudibranco, calm down. You are not the only one who cannot tell which lens can compete with the G1X. Now, let's assume the Pana pancake zoom delivers an IQ that equals the one of the G1X lens (from all I have read and seen it does not, but then I don't own one so cannot tell first hand), the zoom range is still less and so is the speed at wide angle.
Steven, it took me some time and effort to reproduce the effect which only occurs at 50mm, high shutter speed and small aperture. All images taken so far under everyday conditions in bright sunlight do not show the effect. IR states that they believe this to be so rare that hardly anyone will encounter it in daily use. You can follow the discussion on their site.
lightsculpture: There are many in this forum who wish for a zoom lens starting at 24mm/f2.0 on the G1X. The fact is, if Canon were to choose a 24mm/f2.0 on the G1x, they would probably also use the 1/1.7" sensor from the S100 in order to maintain a sensible size. The image quality for the G1X would then be very close to the S100, just like the G12/S95 pair. So, for those who want a 24mm/f2.0 lens and do not give a hood about the sensor size, then why not consider the S100?
" So, for those who want a 24mm/f2.0 lens and do not give a hood about the sensor size, then why not consider the S100?"
Because for the 4mm more wide angle you loose the hot shoe, the OVF (yes, that crappy little, yet important thing), and IQ in particular at high ISO that allows cropping, editing and large prints. If all that is not important, then the S100 is a great camera.