deniz erdem: my ideal camera is the new leica M. they made the perfect camera for me.
compact and durable body/lenses - checkmanual aperture and shutter dial - check real rangefinder for street and travel work. - check live view for architectural work (wide angle and precision) - checkfull frame sensor - checkgps unit for my location mapping project - check
of course in a perfect world, it would be using a foveon sensor with good high iso and magnificent corner performance but within the limits of current technology, its just perfect. not i just have to rob a bank or something. :/
well if this is my dream camera, it doesnt need AF :)
my ideal camera is the new leica M. they made the perfect camera for me.
deniz erdem: i dont thing average consumer is really fixated on sensor size. its a matter of convenience. smartphone camera is just there and its good enough for facebook photos.
do people still use watches? its mostly a fashion accessory now. smartphones killed that too :)
how does a niche save the compact camera?
i dont thing average consumer is really fixated on sensor size. its a matter of convenience. smartphone camera is just there and its good enough for facebook photos.
why do sony jpeg always have that blotchy look to them? i know the raw files are probably very impressive but why sony? why dont you have good jpegs?
joelR42: iOS started out as a totally closed ecosystem (before I get flamed, yes, it is still considered "closed" to android's "openness") but later opened the devices up to third party developers with Apple's careful review process. Honestly, while that process has been far from perfect, it makes me feel better about buying a third-party app and developers like it because it helps them make money--which is one big reason why iOS is still the beating Android in development.
I hope Sony is just keeping this to themselves while they work out the kinks. The NEX cameras run a version of Linux anyway so presumably it wouldn't be hard to create a set of android-like API's that make porting apps to the Sony world easy for developers. Sony, like Apple, will then be a gatekeeper. I know many people here would disagree but I like that arrangement better. Apps are cool but I want my camera to work. Period. Disclosure: I doubt I would ever buy/use more than a small handful of apps in any case.
the thing is ios has a huge user base. even if this closed sony ecosystem becomes easy and polished enough, will it ever be crowded enough?
how much work can there be in a hipsta?
Jefftan: Do you guys know it cost $1300not so excited any more?
just yesterday I see attack on NEX lens line up, at least no single lens is price at this ridiculous price
how much does that adapter cost by the way?
qwertyasdf: on the grounds of the never ending equivalence debate, really interested in knowing how many photographers use large aperture to gain shutter speed? and how many to control DOF?
I personally think that high shutter speed is only crucial to sports photography, and that the m43 system is not a good sports photography tool to start with.
street photograhy benefits from fast shutter speed and large dof. 2x crop makes it easier to achive both.
this combination is begging to be taken outdoors
Kjeld Olesen: Being a user of both a m43 system and a 24x36 mm system, I'd say this is certainly a nice lens and an improvement to the m43 lens array, but surely there will always be reason for m43 users to "envy full frame L glass" - at least until they bring out a 12-35 f/1.4 lens - and if they do, then what will be the point of using m43 anyways? It would likely be larger than a "full frame" 24-70 f/2.8.So lets enjoy what m43 offers in terms of small size and not pretend that it is a replacement for larger apperture lenses.
not everyone relies on shallow dof.
Ben O Connor: It just prooves again: If you want the best shot, dont get fixed lens ! Buy even smallest sensored interchangable camera body and add a pancake lens on it. You could add any lens when you got richer. You can even get a camera bag too !!
(I dont know noone who could wear panths jacket has bulky pockets to handle X100... sorry it has never be compact though..)
how on earth did you reach this conclusion?
as a m43 user, i consider fuji as one of the more innovative companies in the compact game. they got a good thing going with the x100. its just not 100% what i could have been. i was very close to buying one if it hadnt been for the SAB problem and the AF performance. im really glad to see that fuji is still working on improving x100. hopefully they also come up with an x200 in the future.
mahonj: Why don't camera companies make the occasional monochrome camera - no bayer filter, no quarter wave plate, just very sensitive, very sharp images.
It would be very specialist and would sell in small-medium numbers, but if you can build an astro version, you should be able to build a mono version.
Apart from the different software/firmware, can anyone think of a reason ?
Canon sell so many 60Ds and 600Ds, they should be able to run a few mono versions.
there is a rumor that leica will make a monochrome M camera. i would definetely be interested in something like that.
role_of_72: The APS-C - 43 gap is now closed. And everyone lives happily ever after :)Good job, Oly!
sunlyte you dont make any sense. first this than the wierd 'bigger lenses are better' comment above,...
dof will be greater at f4? of course it will be. than you would someone who wants cheesy blurry backgrounds stop down to f4?
i was expecting this move from m43 but i guess samsung is the first one to make the move. good for them. it may not be perfect in the first attempt but this is the future.
Edmond Leung: Did you ever think about how frequent the camera manufacturers change (or update) their camera models? People in the consumer world like to see the changes from time to time because this would stimulate their desire… Just like eating meal after meal... nonstop.Is it really necessary to change the camera models so frequently? Did those camera manufacturers think about environmental protection? Or they just think about profit making but ignoring the future of our world?How do you dispose your old camera when you buy a new one? Do you know how many resources that you will consume from the natural world when you are participated in playing this changing game? I think this is the right time for the responsible consumers to call for a “stop” for such irrational attitude.
mirrorless models are indeed coming in a fast pace but its a very young market. everyone is still trying to figure out consumer needs, overcome technical challanges and gain market leadership. its will eventually slow down.
ManuelVilardeMacedo: It's all nice and well using ISO sensitivities as high as 12800 - especially if you want to make pictures bearing a strong resemblance with Georges-Pierre Seurat's paintings -, but can anybody tell me why Olympus made the stupid decision of eliminating ISO 100, with sensitivity starting from 200 since the E-PL2? What is it - do they think nobody wants low ISO anymore? As someone else pointed out, it looks as if nobody is shooting under daylight nowadays. It is nice to have usable pictures at ISO 3200, but how many people are there taking action shots at night? In a nutshell - do we REALLY need ISO values higher than, say, 6400? Or do people use those sensitivities just because the cameras offer them? Think about it.
i think optimising the sensors for high iso performance sacrificed low iso. market is riding the low light performance forcing everyone to play along. but i completely agree with you. clean 50, good tonal range, good color, thats what i want.
amazingly compact but its kind of an odd FLpancake lenses for travel/walkaround stuff but 40mm aps-c is a bit long for walkaround.