Abaregi: Whats the point if you can buy and DSLR with an APS-C for the same price?
Is it not mirrorless and if so why not NEX sized?
I have a G2 4/3 and a 5D Mk1 FF both 12MP, at 12" x 18" prints are indistinguishable. I was surpised! The G2 is ohhh so much easier to use.
About time!! Do I need all this auto rubbush no!! Do I know the relationship between shutter speed/aperture/ISO? Yes I do.
Do I need anything else, NO
vFunct: You guys really need a proper photo viewer, with actual whitespace and removal of all the junk text/links around it.
Check out www.tinyvices.com for an idea of what I mean.
You hurt the photography by presenting it with such a crappy viewing experience.
A cleaner presentation is better.
Thanks for TinyVices great stuff on there. May I offer this in return: http://imagesfound.blogspot.co.uk/2009/04/in-beginning.html Not for the presentation but for the images therein.
For 10 years read 10 days of clubbish rubbish. May I suggest that the author begs, borrows or steals a copy of Don McCullin's Perspectives (not war but people on a similar edge of life)
bilcobarnes21: I dont understand what enjoyment people get, constantly bashing products, its rare people commment on these forums with something pleasant to say about a camera, its either pulling a camera to pieces or defending their prize possession by castigating the enemys camera/Brand of choice
I also think people shold realise what sort of a camera the GX7 is before comparing with their male jewerlally, D800's and Nano coated prime lenes or such like.
it really does take me a back, people need to get a life, i dont understand why they do it, especially when so many good dating sites are avaiable for these guys at the touch of a button.
You Know who you are..
I have something pleasant to say regarding a Panny G2 and a Canon 5D both 12mp. I took two pics of the same subject with each camera, G2 with 20mm and 5D with 50mm. And then got some 18" x 12" prints done, much to my surprise expecting the 5D ones to be much better especially with a landscape image, they were indistinguishable.
It seems to me that many of the opinions expressed all over this site are for and by nit'pic'kers rather than photographers.
Cheers - Jim
Well I'm blowed!!! The same thing happened c.100 years ago with the development of the Cooke Triplet and the Zeiss Tessar. Prior to that lenses had more elements than you could shake a stick at.
Will it work, of course it will, will it be better, the Cooke and Zeiss designs certainly were.
This looks really great, if they sell bodies on their own I'll buy one.
Petrogel: It will be nice to read an "In Depth Review" of the camera above compared with the Fujifilm X-M1, OLYMPUS P E N and the Leica X Vario and Hasselblad Lunar.
Really !!! why there is -NO- in depth review of any of the Leica's DSLR's
I recall someone stripping down a 'Leitz' film camera lens only to find it had been made by some third party far eastern company, this was years ago. They've been pulling the wool over peoples eyes for years.
There was though the bloke who dropped his M3 out of an aircraft, landed in a ploughed field. He got it back and though a bit dented worked perfectly.
One pays for the body and not the lenses.
What a complete idiot.
I use a Panasonic G2 my FF DSLR's in the the loft. From the G2 I get 16" x 20" prints just as good as the DSLR and it's lighter, smaller and much much easier to use.
My FF DSLR's in the loft, I can get a just as good 16" x 20" print from my Panasonic G2.
No need to say anymore
I use a panasonic G2 and sell dead sharp 16" x 20" prints off it. I have an FF DSLR in the loft, I never use it it's too heavy.
This looks really good though, if the image quality is significantly better than the G2 then I will buy one. BUT I doubt it :-)
Don Kiyoti: So funny (and sad) reading the comments by dpreview readers who are hopelessly ignorant about photography unless it involves endless arguments over sensor size, high ISO noise, or corner sharpness.
The bland leading the bland. Stop looking at the images of others find and follow your own path. Want to know how? PM me.
ptodd: My very favourite thing I've ever read on DPR was a thread on the Pentax SLR forum, where someone said they'd given in to temptation and splurged on a load of expensive Limited prime lenses.
They proceeded to post lots of pictures taken with the kit lens at appropriate focal lengths, receiving lots of comments about what a good "investment" it was, and how the quality really shines through etc... Of course eventually they spilled the beans.
Reely Grate! Even more dopes!!
Next we'll have, " Can't be bothered to go and make some photographs, can't make up my mind what to take with me".
The joke is that one digital camera is only half a gnats knacker a way from the next one. The dopes continue to buy in the hope of 'getting better images' instead sticking to one camera and lens. And going out and using what's between their ears, called 'imagination' to make some images.
I quite fancy buying a new camera from time to time, so I come onto this site and look at the comparitive test results. I then see that the differences between models are so slim it's not worth bothering with.
I go off laughing, thanks DPR, great site.
The best resource for the genre I've ever come across is here: http://imagesfound.blogspot.ca/
I found that after looking at the pics for sometime I got used to the idea and began to find them quite beautiful. And then it makes the, "Lone tree and the sky" and "The ruined jetty/pier into the lake/sea" and "The rocky seashore" etc look really stupid and thoughtless.
And then as John says, I tried it myself and failed I think it would take a few months of intensive photography in a particular location to begin to get the shots these guys appear to do naturally.
Errrrr I use a Panny G2. It's got a tilt and swivel LCD as well. My Nikon's in the loft.
I also do model railways, where the expression, 'Got all the gear and no idea' is quite often heard. Modellers who make something from odds and ends gain far more satisfaction from their efforts.
And so it is with photography.
If Joel Grey encourages people with phones to make good or even just more pics then his job is well done.
On another front the Royal Photographic Society here in the UK is looking forward to the first submission for its LRPS distinction made with a phone.
And there are still people out there using film in field cameras and making large contact prints.
In my opinion photography just is, the means is secondary to the image.
I'm getting there slowly, my 5D is in the loft, as are my 4/3 lenses, I just use a Panny G2 and 20mm now.
Hmmmm I'll stick to my Panny G2 .... disappointed