abortabort: Eh, an EOS-M twin lens kit for $300 compares quite favourably to the T kit. Both well made (though the T obviously a little slicker), touch operation, crop sensor, higher quality kit zoom and good fast small 35mm equiv prime. Focus isn't super fast on either and both partly rely on using the brands legacy lenses. Oh and both have a WA (Leica's is coming). Both have some of the best in class lenses with a body that's a bit ho-hum.
Oh and one has a red dot.
Not a Leica basher, would love an M, but the T is an overpriced mirrorless with fancy packaging.
The Canon lenses (2 out of 3) have image stabilization.
papa natas: I don't understand the mud slinging here on account of the Leica's very expensive lenses' distortion, plus the long explicative text about it on BobYIL 's text on a different link.Why to prove & test it with brick walls?Who, in his right mind, will buy such a pricey camera to shoot walls?The results will show two hard headed guys: one arguing that his Panasonic is the real bargain, and the other one trying to convince the World that those bricks on that wall are crooked.Hasn't anybody get it?:LEICAS ARE NOT TO SHOOT PICTURES.THEY ARE TO BE SHOWN, SAME AS WE DO WITH SHOW DOGS.THEY ARE NOT BRED TO KEEP YOUR HOUSEHOLD SAFE.
At least a dog won't feel cold to the touch in the morning.
First you gypped, then you lied.
Don't worry, just slash the price by half and we'll forgive you.
Tom47: Who packed this bag? Nikon body and a Canon lens?
Who named this bag?
fdfgdfgdgf: I am so excited, the future is here. Instant manual focus with a DSLR. Leaves all competitors in a dust.
There's something to be said for those who still know how to drive a stick shift.
In the year 2014: The thing is a Ferrari, like a Leica lens, really does perform better as a sports car than a Rolex performs as a watch.
It's not 1960 anymore, where something like a Rolex mattered for timekeeping.
The lenses maybe, but so far the sensor is not impressing many.
All Leica needs to do now is throw this in the bin and do it again with a FF sensor, an M mount and focus peaking.
@T3: What a load of ... Lots of people buy Leica for reasons they buy Rolexes and Ferraris; to tell the world they are rich.
Had a photography trip where this guy showed up with a Leica and nobody saw him take a picture with it. While everyone else were busy taking pictures, his camera was hanging from his neck the entire time. Of course, he was also too eager to 'talk equipment.'
topstuff: Really, really, puzzling how people interested in a supposedly creative subject like photography, place no value at all on aesthetics or the satisfaction of the interaction with the tools they use.
This Leica is by all accounts a very pleasing and satisfying thing to use -from the feel of the body to the better-than-ever-before use of a touch screen. This alone is justification enough for its existence.
If some people fail to see that there is satisfaction to be gained in the user experience of something like this, compared to interacting with a lump of black plastic, then that is their problem.
It doesn't matter if Leica moves production to a lower cost location, uses plastic instead of aluminum, or sell a million copies per year, it will still sell for the same price. And Leica fanboys will still call it 'stunning', 'a work or art', and 'great investment.'
I don't use those terms on mass produced, fast-obsoleting consumer electronics.
burnymeister: All the whining about price. YOLO folks. If you can't afford it move on. It's a gorgeous piece of tech and engineering. I can't wait to own it.
@David Myers: Investing? No. It's a consumer product. We all need some excitement and meaning in our lives, but go easy on the Leica kool-aid.
My Macbook Pro is cast from a much larger block of 'unibody' aluminum and is a delight to use. It is made by a company known for high profit margin. Yet, it costs less than this camera.
Ex14: I don't know why everyone is so excited over this. Couldn't they have added this capability their A7 and A7R? With the exception of a (as oif right now) claimed Better DR and autofocus, sony's recent blitz of products with seemingly short life cycles is a tad worrying to me.Call me paranoid, but for long are they gonna support their product? And if no, will this trend push other camera makers to follow suit as well.
Don't get me wrong, Thir cameras are fantastic gears Maybe I'm a bit biased to Fuji (being a user) but I really come to expect companies to support existing products more than just throwing a whole boatload of cameras and later on not having enough resource or due to sheer marketing factors to not be able to update firmware or add new features unto existing products.
Looking at the seemingly missing words in your statements, you are typing almost as fast as Sony is releasing cameras.
DVT80111: These pixels must be huge. Moire is like crazy.
Won't be bigger than the many 12mp FF sensors that came before it.
mattw92: How about Moab region that isn't specifically in Canyonlands or Arches?
Dead Horse Point did cross my mind. But perhaps a Moab area, non NP challenge is in order, like you wrote.
Paulah: you haven't included Monument Valley, is that correct or an oversight?
That is intentionally left out. It is not one of the five Utah NPs.
Wildbegonia: I am curios to know how the host will apply its own rules in this type of challenge theme which had proven to be very loose theme in the past or at least loose in the way it has been proposed. It becomes a kind of 'everything goes' challenge. It borders boredom, It is not a surprise to see the low rate of participation.
Depends on which challenge. California was full. Loose, maybe. But if you submit an image of the Sydney Opera House, it's not cool.
There are plenty of anything-goes challenges around, I'm restricting these challenges to certain geographical locations. I will not spend a lot of time policing entries. I expect people to have the decency to not submit anything irrelevant. The alternative is that I stop hosting challenges. We'll see.
vroger1: Still has that Teensy sensor?? What's the point? My results with the EOS M (yes reallythe EOS M with an Optical v/f) are so remarkable at APS-C size, that I refuse to go small. Even my Lumix m4/3 can't cut Black and White as well.
@Thorgrem m43 fanboy trashing the EOS M. I expect nothing less from you. Well done, sir. Well done.
I'm looking for portraits of animals with both black and white colors over a *significant portion* of their exterior.
You have a lovely dog, but the amount of white hair visible is just not significant enough. Sorry.
WhoozOn1st: Half star off for jingoistic caption.
Says the guy who finished 202nd (dead last) in his last challenge entry.
Lots of entries alright. Just that it seems people have very different definitions of 'cityscape.'
Foto21: D40x had a focus motor, and realistic image rendering and a battery that lasted a while. Since then, Nikon has decided to hobble its most portable dSLR size, not by making openly amateur, but by having it have pretenses to more while being enough a ripoff that you keep it past the trial date.
Meanwhile the oily D600, and mammoth D7100 (with other rumored problems), prove why Nikon bodies have yet to recover from the tsunami of 09.
Fanboys, give me a break. I'm still waiting for an afforable Nikon that doesnt suck. I guess I should buy a D610 since I can't get a good Nikon body for less than that price.
What's the tsunami of 09?