Athonline: I really like A7 MkII. It looks like it "fixes" most of my complains for the A7: The grip and the layout. In terms of body-specs a touchscreen is the only thing missing. Bonus points of the WiFi API Sony uses.
Now if Sony had a good selection of FE-lenses, I could see this one replacing one of my E-M1s! Unfortunately I like zooms and the 24-70mm f/4 is mediocre at best. The 70-200mm f/4.0 a bit expensive for what it is... +1 for the two awesome primes, but again with a price premium.
In any case: Kudos to Sony! They definitely fired some shots towards the status quo of Canonikon!
Well, with EM-1, you don't have comparable lenses to the Sony FE trio, covering 16mm to 200mm at f/4. You do have f/2.8 lens options (f/5.6 equiv) that aren't cheap either.
Matz03: I really want to like Sony and the A7 options, but news like this further proves to me that sony is an electronics company and treat the camera market like they are TVs. So now there are 4 FE bodies, rumors of another PRO body in a month and how many native FE lenses? 5? 6?
On another note, a year from now there should be some more lens options and used A7 bodies to be had for $500 looks rather appealing.
@HFLM: "Of course you can manually focus many other lenses and brands with adapter, but many don't like that and it is a hassle for many situation where movement is involved."
And many love it. I'm one of them. This is besides a logical choice of zooms (cover 16-200mm at f/4 with stabilization), combination of AF and MF native lenses (and some of us love adapted lenses and their feel/involvement). Although, I will admit that a7 may not be cup of tea for pray and spray folks who would rather not be bothered to engage with the subject and the tools.
Not to mention, with IBIS, the system now takes even greater advantage of Minolta/Sony A-mount lenses produced since 1985.
snapa: And for those not wanting go get into FF because of price, weight, size, there may even be an a6000 upgrade, with smaller/better/sharper lenses?!
If that happens, it will be another nail in Canikon's coffin. I know, it's only a rumor, but I will be getting one if it happens ;)
@Menneisyys, I take it that you have never used a FF lens on an APS-C or smaller sensor body? Using FF lens on APS-C bodies is nothing out of the ordinary, adapted or native. And in fact, works really well.
Dazzer8888: I have an A7, i think the body is a really terrible design, a triumph of retro foolishness over ergonomics...........
@Dazer, foolishness is in buying one while hating the product at the same time. Unless, you bought it blind-folded with hands tied on your back. :D
atamola: I never found a compelling reason to switch from Nikon to Canon.
Now, i think it's only a matter of time and some planing for me to switch to Sony.
2 years ago I never would have thought that.
The lenses will work. The only issue would be, whether you could work with the camera and those lenses. :)
jkrumm: I would like my sensor floating on a gel of intelligent microbes working in unison to achieve my vision.
Is lens elements floating on gel of such microbes not working well for you? Well, that might explain state of your vision. :D
Ron A 19: Looks great! Better grip and improvements to the finicky a7. Way to go! Next step: tuck that EVF into the body - there's no need for a prism hump!
Abort, you don't believe in magic? :D
vesa1tahti: No time lapse, no bulb = useless
People, stop looking at DPR articles as being the truth. They mess up, a lot and practically every time with specs.
Antony John: Secrecy could have been tighter - Sony could have kept it close to their chest and not their vest ..
No need for secrecy. The camera has been officially announced in Japan.
jhinkey: The questions that I have are: - Does it have the same sensor cover that produces reflections with bright light sources like the A7 does? - How loud is the shutter? Both the A7 and A7r are loud - Does IBIS work with legacy glass in both photo and video mode - Is the water resistance improved - Does it have an AA filter and if so how strong is it
I would consider swapping out my A7r for the A7II if it improves in these areas.Great that Sony is iterating on their A7 lineup!
By way of having EFCS.
"DPR Staff", what exactly is an "FE-mount"? (Hint: It isn't that, it is E-mount).
Peter Gurdes: sony a6000 or a5100..... who needs fixed lens compacts these days when he can get those?
i sure not.
It is kinda crazy promoting a fixed lens camera while complaining about a system that has "only" 3+ dozen lens options.
Lucas_: Quite interesting article. Anyway, I'd ask: why buy a GX7 if you could buy a Sony A6000...?
16MP is what I have on both cameras right now. I don't see a point to going back to 10-12MP for sake of reducing resolution. It simply does not make any sense. Otherwise, using Sony a7 (24mp) in crop mode (10mp) would be a benefit, not a compromise that it is today.
Nukunukoo: RX20 is rumoured to come this month. This will be interesting...
It is wrong to assume that you can improve sensor performance by dropping resolution. You're basically giving up benefit of higher resolution. RAW file size is a non-issue as well.
The choice for lower resolution is often a result of a compromise (in case of LX100, likely to provide a touch of extra crop factor so the lens could be smaller and most people won't notice it).
Babka08: How much did Panasonic pay for this article anyway?
@JosephYou're making the same point that the OP did about this opinion piece.
Ben O Connor: As a 4 lens owner, I will decide gx7. Its screen tilts and xarries flash with it !
If one values interchangeability of lenses, I can't see him/her replace that with a fixed lens camera. I can see someone using it to compliment an ILC... but only if there is significant advantage to doing so which I don't see here. LX100 does not appear to be pocketable which is a huge negative and its small lens advantage only becomes theoretical.
I don't see a point to dropping resolution. As you might end up seeing LX100, despite slightly larger sensor, significantly lower resolution, would be comparable to Sony RX100 III in just about every key measure.
Lower zoom range would also not help. In fact, the FZ1000 bandwagon overlooks slower lens in favor of longer reach, which is primarily a super-zoom mentality in this camera class. So, 24-200 would be an absolute minimum. Sony actually did this with RX100 III, when they brought down the zoom range (28-105 to 24-75 or so) and sped up the lens (1.8-2.8 now).
"Good luck with the lens..."
When you have lenses, you don't need luck, you go use them. The only appeal an FLC holds with limited zoom range is if it is pocketable. If it has to be carried like an a6000 or GX7, might as well take advantage of ILC (and in case of a6000/a5100, 2x larger sensor too).
thecameraeye: This is very nearly THE perfect advanced compact. The Achilles heel is none other than the lack of a touchscreen, IMO. You can ignore it for everything else but setting the AF point by touchscreen is so convenient and useful that it's very hard to go back.
The near perfect compact camera is the Sony RX100 III. It was designed to be as compact as possible.
"e.g., the new Samsung 16-50 2-2.8"
Interesting example from someone with lens size/weight concerns.