deploylinux: Specs looked wonderful until I noticed lack of hotshoe. Ouch.
That is not why you would get a camera like RX100. EVF is FAR FAR more useful tool for photography than remote trigger on hot shoe.
cheetah43: The pop-up EVF [great development] is bound to start a new trend. The next RX1 might get it also. Its switching off the camera - can it be sorted out with firmware? Sony must surely have tested its mechanical functioning for durability.
Might be a bit tough fit on RX1, given the size of the sensor (FF) in not much bigger body.
peevee1: Would be a great camera had it had working OSPDAF and 11 fps with AF-C like Sony's own budget a6000. Sensor readout allows that, and Sony's own processor is able to do it in a6000 at twice the resolution so it is not a problem either. The pixels are 5 times the size so OSPDAF signal would be very clear, allowing focusing in more than 2 stops lower light than a6000. What is wrong with them?! Did they save a few bucks on a cheapass shutter module that cannot fire more than 5 times per second - but why they did not even design OSPDAF into the sensor? Holding the functionality for upcoming A9s I guess - market segmentation...
For professional video, AF is not key. In fact, MF is preferred. That is also why the "kit lens" for a7s (Sony FE 28-135mm f/4 G) has follow focus mechanism.
KrisAK: Will the sensor overheat when recording internally?
Unless I missed it, the announcements don't mention anything about "advanced thermal dissipation" or "resistant to overheating." (Or maximum record times for those outside the EU-tariff regions.)
I'd consider this over a GH4 if I knew it could compete in those two areas.
Its is a FF sensor inside a compact body, which is the supposed reason behind keeping 4K recording external (to keep heat issue out of the picture). That can also mean, longer recording, cleaner imaging (FF sensor itself is a great start).
StevenE: Does it read the whole sensor or line skip when it is recording 1080p internally? Makes a big difference ... looking for sharp results without moire and aliasing at 1080p in camera
Whole sensor (one of the reasons the resolution was chosen).
Ed Gill: Sony has to be spastic! Now they drop the hotshoe just when the lens got fast enough for decent portraits and depth of field control (read high speed flash sync). Hello - hello? They can't even manage a stinking little sync port for flash triggers. Hopefully Panasonic will scale up the LX5/7 to m4/3 next time around, my money stays in my wallet until then. And Canon - he coulda been a contender just those crappy sensors kept him outa the ring. Maybe Canon will give up and just buy Sony sensors and get back in the race.
Hotshoe, a waste of real estate on a camera designed for minimum size. Better used on... built in EVF.
NZ Scott: They've really nailed the features on this - I certainly prefer 24-70 to 28-100, as I like to shoot landscapes. Managing to cram in a tilting screen and EVF is just awesome. I think the main competition for this camera is actually the interchangeable-lens Panasonic GM1, which comes with a nice little 24-64 equivalent lens, and probably offers much better image quality than the little Sony. Still, the Sony has an EVF, and the Panny doesn't.
Panasonic GM1 is at a loss since its lens that makes sense with its size is slower. In fact, about 2 stops slower, so the slight advantage of 1/3-1/2 stop it may have in high ISO performance will simply vaporize, while in bright light, the Sony sensor has better DR. And the RX100 is smaller to boot, has EVF and articulating LCD (none of that applies to GM1). This is a direct hit on the Panasonic.
DaaamnGina: Does it have Auto-ISO in manual mode? Can you fully turn off digital zoom in video? The aperture looks like it's a constant f2.8 from 30-70mm. That's sweet!
Yes, it does have Auto ISO in M. And I'm sure you can turn off digital zoom in either mode.
The lens range and speed are my favorite features for a pocketable camera. The EVF inclusion is simply awesome.
Cheng Bao: $800 is more reasonable than previous rumored price.however consider the built-in evf alone cost around $100 for several mirrorless camera, it is a better deal than rx100m2, if you need an EVF
The little beast, got even better. Better choice for lens as it relates to speed and wider FOV was already a major upgrade. Throw in a pop-up EVF, and wow! Glad to see articulated LCD stayed around as well.
Impressive specs, lower launch price than the a77.
igor_s: Is the A77II's IBIS configurable for work with non-chipped lenses of different FL?
I have used adapted lenses on my a55 via chipped adapters, which in turn is useful for IBIS (and the lens FL shows up in EXIF as well). I do like the Pentax solution better... allow users to plug in the FL, although, they would have to remember doing that every time.
Dimit: Now,that's a nice set of samples...for the first time in DPR!!!Wish you all the best...from this and now on!!!
I don't think DPR samples do any justice for what might be a capable lens.
Digital Suicide: Me too have RX100, and It's fantastic compact camera. But one thing really annoys me, like other Sony cameras, that ir chooses too slow shutter speeds by default. Choosing speeds manually is not convenient - it's just a compact. Seriously 1/60 sec in daylight kills me...
You shouldn't get 1/60s for shutter speed, unless you've selected Auto ISO and the light isn't sufficient (or you have stopped down sufficiently) to force higher ISO and are using 50-60mm equiv FL.
AndreSJ: I word question. LENSES?
For video, you have A and E mount lenses... and a host of cine lenses from virtually any mount to use.
PicOne: Why am I confused on this matter? Ok, it's 12mm. 12mm is 12mm. BUt how does a 12mm offer the same angle of view (98.9 degrees per above), irregardless of the sensor's crop factor (eg. M43 vs. APSC, etc?)
It will not provide the same FOV. It will be wider (18mm FF FOV) on APSc compared to m43 (24mm FF FOV). This is technically an APS-C lens, which will work on m43.
historianx: LOL love the we need autofocus comments, they crack me up. If you need A/F for a 12mm wide angle, then you should probably not be in photography LOL
Barbu, your issue appears to be that of motion blur rather than focusing issue. At these focal lengths, we're basically talking point and shoot for focusing.
And it does help to have the right camera (and lens) to shoot with manual focus (which is a major part of my photography style).
Kudos to Samyang. The 12mm f/2 is a fine addition, one that is VERY tempting.
dodgebaena: thanks to focus peaking, I am quite comfortable shooting my Bower (a Samyang lens) 85f1.4 on my a99. This will be a nice walk-around lens for my NEX-6.
Focus Peaking works great even with very shallow DOF, as long as there is reasonable contrast.
DVT80111: EVF downgraded from 2.36M to 1.44M.No new sensor technology for low light.
Boy, talking about customer satisfaction. Any NEX-6 owners out there should be very happy that your camera has not been obsoleted yet.
"EVF downgraded from 2.36M to 1.44M"
Not if you consider this NEX-5?R/T replacement which is where this one is priced at. NEX-6 was more expensive camera.
dlkeller: I didn't realize these things were using power zoom,. My experience with this on other cameras has been very bad compared to manual zoom. What is the general feeling concerning this?
Power zoom only if you choose power zoom lenses (three at the moment: 16-50, 18-105 and 18-200). Of course you can manually zoom as well.