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Companies make bad decisions sometimes, invest poorly, product does not perform. Yet they recover because their customers still trust them. But once your customers do not trust you anymore, you're...

No, it doesn't work out. If after two years I stop ugrading, I still have a system I can use for years to come. Here, I have nothing.

GregMcD wrote: "If you look at the upgrade cost every couple years this does work out."

No, it doesn't work out. If after two years I stop ugrading, I still have a system I can use for years to...

For now there is no change. Wait a while.

This has nothing to do with "moving online". There is no moving online here. It's a ruse. It's just a subscription system. You still install software as before as work the same way, but now if you...

Greed is a constant. It's "smart" or "stupid" that determines the outcome. Smart and greedy will provide for customers' needs beautifully because that will make money for him. Stupid and greedy...

Please add Corel to the mix. At this point my trust in Adobe's ability to make sound decisions is shaken, and I would be very interested in such a review.

I'm getting a feeling when the numbers start coming in, it is going to be an abrupt end to a promising VP career.

Until there is a provision that after a certain period of subscription software will no longer deactivate, I am afraid this is the end of the road for me. Started with Photoshop 4, now with...

"New versions of Gimp work in 16 and 32 bits per channel."

gimp.org faq says it will happen in 3.0. The current version is 2.8x. Is the gimp.org faq wrong?

"One word: GIMP"

One word: 8-bit

" I'm surprised more people don't use gimp"

8-bit.

How many decades has GIMP now been talking about moving from 8-bit to 16-bit? Yes, I know 3.0 is just around the corner... and another corner...

For the whole suite, yes. For Photoshop it would be $720. Both would include upgrades for 3 years (you don't get that now).

Perhaps the way to alleviate the anger would be to announce that anyone who subscribes for three years can keep the software permanently active without further upgrades, if one so chooses?

alatchin, good points, I don't use some of the other packages much.

I used to use PSD a lot, switching to TIFFs for the same reason (not fully there yet). I have noticed some other packages open...

alatchin, good points, I don't use some of the other packages much.

I used to use PSD a lot, switching to TIFFs for the same reason (not fully there yet). I have noticed some other packages open...

Yes, JamesInCA, that is a good point.

Why can't you open them? Is Photoshop the only software that can open TIFF and JPEG files?

> Pay forever, or lose access to your own intellectual property, it's extortion, nothing more.

Mkay... I get complaining about price, but WTF is this nonsense about? You lose access to your own...