Rock City, Chattanooga! Bushi was there :)
terrymcke: I want to add my comment about who might really benefit from this camera. And by the way, I have the NEX 7 and my son the RX 100. And we have shot pics together. The one problem a serious amateur has is changing lenses in awkward places - like on the Brooklyn Bridge or in a mountain in NY State. We are not as fast as the pros, and the pros actually often have at least 2 bodies set up with lenses for their shoot.
So if you are willing to forego buying a body and a few lenses (i have the 18-55, the 55-210 and a wide angle 16mm) you will have almost all that I have, in one camera, and you'll never have to clean dust off your sensor.
For the serious amateur (but not wealthy) i recommend this!
it is not that diffficult to make dust-proof seal, really
BubbaHotepUK: I was reaching for my credit card until I read the price. Yikes. I guess they needed to differentiate with the price RX100 II, but even so, that's a lot of cash for a fixed lens camera.
...yer gonna need a bigger card ;)
hell yeah! Nothing like fireworks in the forest!
apart from that apparent stupidity, great idea.
Good job, Carsten, I am immigrant in Ireland, and am always looking for spots to visit - thanks for the ideas!
BoFiS: Ugh, STOP IT, basically everything 4.3" and above is too big to hold and use in one hand...our hands have not grown in the last couple of years, why have our phones?! Also all that extra space is silly if you're just going to fill half the home screen with an even-larger clock/weather widget.
Bad Samsung, BAD! Too big phones, unnecessary, ridiculous, blahblahblah.
...meanwhile, Samsung laughs all their way to the bank, cashing in from their diverse product portfolio, that SOMEHOW, most consumers find attractive - and at the end of the day, that's what matters most.
zodiacfml: EVFs are going to have a story similar to the megapixel race.
...there was a rational, technological (and human perception) reason for megapixel race AT THE BEGINNING of it (ie, where cams started to appear with 1MP, 2MP, 3MP sensors etc.), just like there is one now for EVFs - until they reach resolutions, that would make it's further increase meaningless (i.e., beyond the capabilities of human eye, to resolve pixels, or at least have perception of something "unnatural")
Grobb: "IF" Fuji can live up to ALL of it's marketing hype/press release promises and not have any of their famous 'white orb' like issues, this just might be a possible upgrade candidate. Those are some VERY big claims, like 30% less noise and 20% more resolution, and that extremely fast AF time! Only time and reviews will tell the true story. I personally hope they are all true, BUT something tells me they will not be able to deliver :(
@88SAL: "2nd hand with no receipt rightfully has no warranty because it COULD yet be stolen"
Whaaaaa???? It is like saying, that every man could be accused of being a rapist, because he has a dick, that COULD have been used in a rape. Really funny logic you display here. That's really idiotic rationalization of something, that in reality is cost-cutting excersise and avoiding the warranty servicing costs, by the companies.
Shakens: would have got a X10 if it wasn't for the orb issue so may get one of these
White orbs were fixed by sensor upgrade by Fuji on later releases, you can even call your local Fuji warranty service shop for a sensor replacement. So, check your facts, before dismissing valid reports :)
JackM: My Tag/Heuer watch has a sapphire crystal, it is unscratchable!! Nice move Apple.
My Citizen watch also has one, and of course it IS scratchable - it all depends on the amount of pressure and the type of material that scratches against it ;). Ceramics and minerals tend to be very hard, so these can scratch sapphire, easily, if you are not careful.
It is rather tough, though!
FartIng: The articulated screen is a fantastic feature on my G12.The awful performance at anything above 600 ISO os a not so fantastic feature on my G12
well, in this case new, one stop faster lens should come to the rescue here... You are getting roughly double the amount of light through G15's lens comparing to G12's, so you'd stop at half the ISO sensitivity of G12 (example: in aphotographic situation that you'd need to use ISO 1600 on G12 to get a shake & blur-free picture, you will get away with ISO 800 on G15).
I always advocated small sensors, as enabling development of reasonably-sized, reasonably-priced, but very fast lens - that would alleviate to some degree the drawbacks of smaller sensors. Glad to see manufacturers are catching up on that, way to go!
jtwz8975: The updates went great on my X-Pro1. After reading about 1000 forum comments over the last month I have concluded that most of the naysayers out there are arm-chair-generals who have never even held the camera or owned one, (or they're just whiners). AF is a little slow compared to my D700 but only in some situations. I'm sure it will get faster with future updates however in the meantime I have gotten several action shots of my kids after only a days practice. I'm lovin' the IQ on this thing and the lightweight rangefinder handling is so refreshing.
all people who are so "sure" about "future firmware updates" and all the goodies that they will "most certainly" deliver, apparently don't follow too closely Fuji's track record in this regard, I am afraid..
simon65: I was aghast to look through the electronic viewfinder of a Sony NEX-7 recently and be told it represented the "state of the art" and was recognized as the best in the market.
What I saw was lots of noise and pixels and colour distortion.
The Sony guy explained that, "Well we are inside".
Hmm, well, defintely lots of room for improvement there by MicroOLED and then some, before electronic viewfinders can claim to replace optical viewfinders as found on DSLRs or indeed on Leica and Fuji's rangefinders.
"What I saw was lots of noise and pixels and colour distortion. The Sony guy explained that, "Well we are inside". "...and how that same scene looked like through the OVF? Was it completely black, or were you able to recognize at least contours and shapes?
See, that's but another advantage of EVFs: they can gain in ultra-low light, giving you (noisy and laggy, yes, but still) some picture to frame, versus OVF, which would display mostly darkness.
JJMacks: Is this technology going to be able to display a view at the speed of light like an optical viewfinder or have the annoying image frame delay I see in current electronic viewfinders? IMO best suited for video recorders and be better large so you don't need to hold the recorder to ones eye.
"Is this technology going to be able to display a view at the speed of light like an optical viewfinder "of courser it will - the day after you will be able to react to changing scene in less than 1/100th of a second (which is, to say, both: never, and not needed)
DFPanno: No EVF is going to be superior to the human eye and that is what an OVF is (in essence).
Of course an excellent EVF stands to be better than a poor OVF but that goes without saying.
The substitution of one for the other may create the opportunity for other design advantages but that is a tangential conversation.
you gotta love this kind of definitive statements.... and why shouldn't it? Is there any physical constraint there, that I am not aware of?
It is just silly, it sounds like someone pronouncing "no man can ever fly" in 17th century, or "no machine heavier than air can ever fly", hundred years later.
And of course, there were many that were saying just that, back then.
gleung: when consumer digital camera first came out the 90s, the resolution was 640x480 (by Kodak i think?).. if internet forum was popular back then, i'm sure many people will laugh and say no digital camera will be superior to 35mm film.. but of course everything changes now (with some exception cases). people need to realize that EVF is still an infant technology and it will only improve in the future.
this also goes to any analog vs digital comparison. digital always start off much lower quality than analog counter-parts, but as technology improves and if there's market demand, they will definitely surpass it.
"digital always start off much lower quality than analog counter-parts"of course not, digital starts off much lower quality than its CONTEMPORARY analog counterparts, which were evolving for decades to their CONTEMPORARY forms. But look at the original analog pioneering counter-parts, and you will se the fair picture. For example, compare first commercially available digital cameras, to first commercially available analog cameras. I would take digital any day of the week :).
low earth orbit: No doubt EVFs have a lot of potential for useful things that can not be done with OVFs like exposure simulations/information and manual focus assist.And will be better than OVFs for a lot of people for certain applications.
But who ever says EVFs (no mater how good) will "spell the end of OVFs" clearly does not understand the basic principles and physics of electronic imaging.There are a lot of pros and cons but...
For an EVF to work you need continuous readout from the sensor and that will always mean heat.Heat will always mean noise.Unless you have active cooling,which would of course require a lot more energy.
An EVF no mater how efficient,will always consume more energy than an OVF.
Well, it is all true, until the advances in technology render all these three arguments into the category: negligible, negligible, and negligible. Throw in lower price to boot, as fourth, when eventually achieved.
AT this point, we will be firmly in the "spell the end of OVFs" realm.
I daresay that particular display, if indeed delivers what it is saying on the tin, is a darn close to make a good attempt today.
english_Wolf: Actually, regardless of perfection in the electronic view finder I avoid them like the plague.Why? I have thick glasses and my eyes cannot adapt (no dioptic elements is able to correct my vision). The result is that I purchase only DSLR cameras whose view screen can change to prism adjustment. When what I need 'snaps' into place as I focus, I do not seen the image but feel the difference. Then I snap.I do not see any electronic capable of doing that so, for me, at least, my answer to this progress is 'blah'.Would love to see this technology applies to my computer monitors thought.
"Would love to see this technology applies to my computer monitors thought."...gosh, speaking about unnecessary technological progress?? And why on earth would anyone like to have a computer screen with pixel densities like the above - where the whole 1280x1024 (good resolution for a 19" monitor) fits in 0.61 inch diagonal? That is, frankly, a big nonsense.
Edgar_in_Indy: I really wish the LCD screen makers and the camera makers would stop referring to how many "dots" their displays have. Nobody ever talks about "dots" in the real world, and this causes confusion for people who think they must be referring to pixels.
It would be like somebody stating their salary in pennies instead of dollars, just so they can throw around a bigger number. I blame it all on the marketing department.
A while back, I was thinking of upgrading from my Pentax K-x, to the K-r, partly because the K-r boasted a new LCD with "920k" dots. Well, 1280x720 is 921,600, so I mistakenly thought that the K-r screen could display the full resolution of 720p video, which would help with manual focusing during video. Luckily, I found out about this "dots" business before I bought the K-r on a mistaken premise.
...well, the pixel resoluton notion is in fact misleading, number of "dots" is absolute, and number of "pixels" is prone to trickery, as Samsung Galaxy S owners should know best - in that screen, Pentile GRGB pattern is marketed as 800x480, ie standard Android hi-res screens of it's days, but unfortunately, unlike traditional full-RGB pixels, they have conveniently (for them) counted each RG, BG pair as a full pixel. So, the stated resolution was in fact "algorythmic, sub-pixel rendering" BS resolution, and the actual, physical number of "dots" was significantly lower (and perceived visual sharpness, too), than competing traditional RGB LCDs of the day.
Fuji definitely seems to be listening to their customers, since few last generations of cameras, that is absolutely fantastic!
They are really trying to be innovative, whereas most of other companies just play the "marketing by the numbers" games. Well done, Fuji!