Ivanaker: Nikon D600Category: Mid Range Full Frame camera
The only one in its category.Does anybody know what cameras belong to ``Low (budget) Range Full Frame camera``?
Dear DPR, you really need to reevaluate your categories.For instance:
Nikon D800Category: Semi-professional Interchangeable Lens camera / DSLR
Whats the real difference between ``Mid Range Full Frame camera`` and ``Semi-professional Interchangeable Lens camera / DSLR``.Mid range is semi pro as far as i know. And considering that d800e has far superior sub 7k$ base ISO sensor than anything else on the planet, please tell me how is it ``semi pro``?
I love your site, but you have so many categories now. My proposition is do divide cameras by price factor:
Thats is the fairest system i can think of.
So, tell me which cameras are: High range not professional cameras?lets talk only about Nikon FF for the moment
low range amateur: mid range amateur - d600high range amateursemi pro - d800pro - d4
You cant fill in the blanks, and THAT is what i am talknig about.d600 is NOT a mid range FF camera, it is amateur (cheapest and worst FF digital Nikon on face of Earth)
We seem not to understand each other:
``D600 is Mid range FF camera, and d800 is Semi range FF camera, or what, i dont get it?``
Whats the difference between MID range, and SEMI range?
Please tell me the difference between: ``Mid Range Full Frame camera`` and ``Semi-professional Interchangeable Lens camera / DSLR``
so D600 is Mid range FF camera, and d800 is Semi range FF camera, or what, i dont get it?
Nikon D600Category: Mid Range Full Frame camera
I dont see the problem with tripod collar. This lens is lighter then 24-70 2.8 which is mounted on tripod via camera.
This 70-200 f/4 can be mounted on tripod with out tripod collar, mount it on camera, and then on tripod.
I miss the point, whats the big deal? Would you like it more if it was included but costs 200 more to begin with? I like the way to have options.
neo_nights: On the first page it says that the F3 has a 'wider ISO range'. But... wouldn't it be the opposite? The C3 has a range that is 100-12800 whereas the F3's range goes from 200 to 16000. It lost one full stop on the lower end and gained only 1/3 stop at the higher end. So, the F3 is 2/3 stop 'narrower'.
And your brain is 85 IQ narrower....
Larry Winters: Usain Bolt is NO LEGEND. Michael Phelps would more likely be called a Legend. He's earned I think 16 Gold and over 20+ medals in 3 Olympics from the 100m, 200m to 400m with mulitple strokes. And he has Gold 3-peated in at least 2 events. When Bolt Gold medals in the 100, 200, and at least medals in the 400, and throw in a hurdle event, in 3 Olympics, then he will have just equalled Phelps. Bolts has only doubled in 2 events and now has a paltry 6 medals. I'm really no fan of swimming or Phelps but the standard he's set will take awhile to surpass and you can't deny him that.
Bolt is a character which is good for Sports advertising, but I'm still wondering want this has to do with reviewing digital photography here on DPR.
``But in reality the best athlete in the Olympics is the Decathlon winner``
I could not agree more with you on this one.
``So now swimmers, boxers, basketball players, weight lifters, etc., aren't athletes?``
They are sportsmen in my language. Athlete more narrow definition, and sprinter is even more.
Maybe they should make 50m, 150m, 250, 350m, and why not in all types of swiming, and combined, and free style, so mr. Phelps coud earn some more medals. He is a great swimmer, the best there ever was, but olympics were really always about athletics, and Bolt is THE LEGEND.
maxnimo: So they decided to come out with another proprietary lens mount instead of adopting the MFT standard. I wonder if that was the best course of action to take. One thing I know for sure.... I'd have no interest in buying this camera.
Nikon F mount is a standard, Canon EF is a standard, Leica M is a standard, Sony A is a standard, Pentax K is a standard......
Nikon CX line is new test standard for CX mount lenses, so is Canon eos m, and fuji x and sony E..... so is M43.
I have seen Olympus loosing comatability with their earlier cameras/lenses, i have even seen Canon doing that.
If i have to pick THE standard i would have to say M mount, or even maybe F mount, nothing else.
stromaroma: Why would I want 24 MP in such a crumby body? Seriously, I go travelling with my cameras and laptop and 24 MP is just going to bog everything down and require more storage space. What's wrong with 16 MP? The difference to IQ is negligible. Scratch the MP ratrace and give me what I really want -- better low light performance and faster frame rates. If I ever want 24 MP, which I don't, I'll get a high end body.
Shoot small JPG, and you get what you want. 16MP is sooo 2010. Welcome to 2012.And 4 fps is really more than enough for travel camera. 4fps and 6fps is more or less the same (same ratio as 16MP and 24MP).
I have never read so poor list of CONS before. Slightly this and that, and slow CDAF?! And what the heck is: `` Not so good for:Fans of LCD image composition, who will be disappointed by the slow AF, and anyone who wants filter effects at the point of capture. ``???
Give me a break, this is a great camera, you should award it with it 85 points and GOLD.
Ivanaker: I read a lot about ``contrast detect AF optimized lenses``. What does it mean for lens? Camera tells the lens where to focus, so its important for camera if it is CD or PD, and lens does only what camera tells the lens to do. What am i missing?
So, when they say ``contrast detect AF optimized lenses`` they really want to say ``light focusing element``. Thank you
I read a lot about ``contrast detect AF optimized lenses``. What does it mean for lens? Camera tells the lens where to focus, so its important for camera if it is CD or PD, and lens does only what camera tells the lens to do. What am i missing?
Ivanaker: I just cant understand the pricing of m43, or any mirrorless gear, it is way to much.75 f/1.8 - $899.99om-d - $1,299.00
on the other handnikon d7000 - $1,199.00very new 85 f1.8 - $499.00
And that lens is an investment as you can venture to FX format with it.
Im glad m43 exists, some nice cameras and lenses from them, and they are pushing tech forward, and forcing Nikon, Canon, Sony, Pentax.... to make even better DSLR. But i cant see how anyone can choose om-d + 75 1.8 when for the same money you can get d7000, 85 1.8(FX), 50 1.8(FX) and 35 1.8(DX).And im not going even to venture into benefits of one system or another, ill give you that m43 is smaller.
Ok, in your opinion, is this lens worth twice the money of the nikkor?
@Stu 5On DX body it will perform even better bcs you are using sweet spot, center of the lens. It resolves easily on D800 so its more then good for 16Mp DX body.Zuiko 75mm f1.8 is not worth the twice as 85 f1.8 full frame Nikkor and we all know that.
``Who said Nikkor 85 1.8 is as good as Olympus 75 1.8``This is very funny. 85 1.8 is one of the sharpest nikon lenses ever made, and people are using it, and loving it, so the real question should be:Who knows if this new Oly is as good as 85 1.8 from Nikon?
I said Oly is smaller, and that im happy that it exists, but benefits of DSLR are still very huge, you dont want to go there.
is this lens weather sealed?
Harold66: And of course Olympus new high end lens is not weather -sealed which makes no sense if you market a supposedly top of the line camera with weather sealed lens and only give that option to entry level kit zoom
Also, Olympus should receive big booos for not including the lens hood at this price level
Nikon gives hood and bag with each lens but kit 18-55. canon gives hood with all L lenses.
I just cant understand the pricing of m43, or any mirrorless gear, it is way to much.75 f/1.8 - $899.99om-d - $1,299.00
Funny thing is that D700 successor is 5Dmk3and 5Dmk2 successor is D800
Sdaniella: I have hit the limits on my 5DMkII for extreme low light shooting (moonlit or not at night) to which ONLY the 5DMkIII is up to the task.
All other rivals, fall short, either in resolution in such conditions (D4), or poor high ISO noise in such conditions (D800); so neither could meet my requirements of 'improvement' over my 5DMkII as the 5DMkIII solely has.
There is no other, and the closest to exceed for less noise in extreme low light at high ISOs is Canon's own 1Dx, but it has less resolution.
Canon has clearly hit the 'max' technical development for sensor 'sweetspots'.
Its just that D800 has better low light capabilities then 5dmk3, all the tests have confirmed it. You can post process gain ISO to match cheating that canon made in mk3. Two great cameras, but funny thing is that d700 successor id 5dmk3, and 5dmk successor is D800
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