Thumbs up for Sony. They've been doing good job over the last two years. Looks like E-mount is a good way to go alongside the ultra lightweight and portable MFT. I think Canikon will lose some market share.
Poweruser: Another demonstration of how little "bokeh" is going on in a 2.8 midrange zoom on APS-C. Which is why most people should be happier with either a slower, cheaper, lighter standard zoom or a set of fast primes.
This could have been a winner if as fast as Sigmas 18-35.
bokeh is not everything. but I agree that it sometimes saves the day if there's lack of talent O:)
Rod McD: It always seems that Canon can't quite get it right. The M system - bodies and lenses - just don't compare as an ILC system with the comprehensive approach of the other mirror-less manufacturers. I still use a Canon G1X (original) but went Fuji for my MILC system - reason : XT1 EVF and lenses. Now here's the latest iteration of the M still with no built-in EVF and an expensive optional add on. Please just give us a complete camera from the outset.
Yes, you can, but what sense does it make to clip a small camera onto a big fullframe lens??
Maverickmii: I must admit that I am not an eos-m expert but have just done a quick side by side comparison between the m and m3 and the only substantial difference i can see is 6MP more... and of course digic6 instead of digic5..Did canon need three years to get that done ??I hope that the IQ will prove otherwise!
I think the 6x faster hybrid AF will be very helpful and is more important than those 6 mpx. Built-in Wifi and NFC are nice features as well. I was also missing the command dial on the M1.But there are also some more important things that I miss(ed): a bunch of primes as I mentioned below (10/2.8, 15/2.8, 35/1.8 and 50/1.8), and maybe a slow pancake zoom and a fast f2.8 zoom. It's lenses what make the system usable.
Walser23: I am wondering what Canon is doing here... I think there is no right or wrong on full frame, APS-C or MFT, nor on DSLR/mirrorless. But offering a Mx in such a shape, no EVF, no dedicated lenses, doesnt make any sense to me. you get L series lenses for FF only, no high quality for APS-C, nor M mount. MFT has dedicated lenses for MFT, high quality primes dedicated to the sensor size. If i want that with Canon, i have to buy FF lenses and carry weight which i dont need / have any advantage from. If cannon would be serious, they would launch an EVF mirrorless with suited lenses. But i think they are trying to protect their DSLR FF business and dont want to risk this going mirrorless. i lost me hope that this will change and i dont want to carry another heavy L lense on APS-C only as their is no alternative. Oly and Pana are comitted to MFT - having bodies and lenses which are optmized for eachother. I am ok loosing a little IQ, DOF and ISO, if i get a well designed bundle.selling my C gear
I did the same and am happy. :)
art99: OK, so this one has a mic port but no 4K video and the Samsung has the 4K but no mic port.Again , no cigar.Will there ever be a compact that has both ??
why do you need 4K now? :) if you want to look at 4K videos from you sofa, you need a 100" TV. that's a price tag where one doesn't care about some eos m. :)
I'm not sure if they (Canon) are so scared as not to compete with their own entry level DSLRs, but they let others steal the show completely from them, from entry level to mid range. I sold all of my APS-C and FF Canon gear (including L lenses) and am more than happy with MFT take-everywhere solution with bright lenses and am looking toward one of those FF alphas with zeiss glass.
and first of all, there are "no" lenses. yes, it's nice to have the wideangle at least, besides the ever-kit lenses (18-55 + 55-200). But there are no real lenses except the 22/2. M users need 10/2.8, 15/2.8, 35/1.8 and 50/1.8... Wake up Canon!
there's definitely more than that. higher resolution is the least important thing...
What about shutter-saving timelapse with only electronic shutter?
Mr Olympian: Abput the same IQ as the best FF, though we've hit where the lens really matters more, coupled with much increased DoF. A certain group of photographers won't need to worry about "stopping down" serveral stops to get proper focus. This thing has no real competition for a group of photographers.
...and has advantages in some situations as well. Think of macro or landscape/architecture with deeper DOF at the same f stop.
No wars, no Middle East? I don't believe it... :) (thanks!)
Those copyright lawsuits go against good sense. One day, we can expect that a farmer will file interest of copyright because he planted a nice tree some years ago. Or Henry Ford will file copyright interest because someone took a picture of his car. Or you'll have to pay a fee for shooting a mountain creek to the owner of the land. (I think something like this is already in use in the USA - when shooting in a natural park or something.)Everyone want to make easy money for nothing, or for "being" or "owning".
Thanks, but I'll get a few chinese hi-power led lights and get some flexibility and "a bit more light" for a fraction of price. :D
blink667: IBIS is a great addition, but same sensor as the A7... any evidence of an IQ uptick?
ok, it's been 2 years since the first a7, sorry, the time ticks faster than I first thougt... O:)
and what's wrong with the sensor? I don't think we need a new sensor every couple of months... And looking at some photo competitions it looks like many of us don't need better gear at all. :)
Nice for an amateur gallery... But I've seen lots of better landscapes at other amateur websites. Click through http://www.ephoto.sk/fotogaleria/top-fotografie/ for example...
LBJ2: "which offers a fast maximum aperture of F2.8 throughout its zoom range"
Applying the crop factor, is this new lens really an equivalent f2.8 "throughout its zoom range" or is it really equivalent to 24-83mm f4.2 ?
you know what they wanted to say. yes, it's f2.8 in terms of light gathering capabilities and yes, it's equivalent to f4.2 in terms of depth of field in the FF (35mm) world. and finally, yes, it has the same max aperture throughout its range, even without quotes. any other FAQ?
those prices must be a straight nightmare to apple-ists. :)