George Veltchev: OK ...lets say that the D600 has the upper hand in regards to some specifications, despite the amateurish build in flash and the cheap plastic body. The 6D has to be superior in the Image quality comparison however. As a proud owner of the old Canon 5D MarkII, I personally do not care so much about the type of auto-focusing since I have always use the central focusing point. And lets do not forget the fact that Canon's EF lens lineup is very ...very and I mean very strong indeed, a fact which many people are willing to forget. After all a great lens is a better investment than a camera body which in few months or a year time will be replaced with another.
@T3: You are living in dark age in cave. You need to modernize yourself. Just wondering, why do you need to answer every post? Look like, you work in Canon? Don't need your biased opinion any more.
You need to see this video to understand the importance of other focus point than center one. See all three part by Rudy Winston from Canon:
montygm: Hi Steve,I know the built in flashes that come with SLR"s are not the greatest and their range is very limited but as I mentioned sometimes it comes down to convenience and less baggage to carry. Nikon were quite clever to incorporate this with their FF D800 where as Canon decided against it on their 5D range. This will appeal to a greater range of users that aren't uniquely based exclusively in the "Pro user" category only. Mostly I prefer not having to use flash if I can help it, as it can be very harsh and has unpleasant cold colour to it.But there have been a few moments that "pop up' has come in very handy though. When shooting outside on a bright day to lighten up shadows in eyes sockets for one.But putting that aside I feel Nikon are listening more to what their customers want than what Canon is lately. They have made a quality camera in the D600 without being afraid like Canon are of losing the high end sales of the 5D MK III. You will see Nikon leading by a miles with this.
@T3: If you are too excited, just buy it and shut up. You don't need to influence other people to buy one crap. Everybody will buy with their own money, not yours. So, let others to decide what they want and what they don't want to buy.
fdfgdfgdgf: A Phone as a remote LCD monitor?
"You can use your smartphone for remote camera control and operation (with the EOS Remote app),"
Does it possible?
So, you think everyone in this universe has a android or iphone? and other phone (non-smart phone) does not exist now, LOL?
If someone want to buy a DSLR, he must have an android phone also? What an assumptions? Probably, you are a gadget lover, not photographer!
montygm: I was hoping to upgrade my 500D soon and go full frame. Have been waiting for the announcement of this new camera for ages but now having read about it I will be holding off. If the Canon 5D MK III had a pop up flash and was less bulky I would have bought it. All the extra gizmos with GPS is all marketing hype aimed at people who are more interested in tech gadgets as opposed to a quality camera that takes good photos. Get yourself a GPS unit instead.
But, there is no wireless commander also. Buying a flash unit does not solve wireless flash issue.
@George: Using central AF all the time should results in focus inaccuracy for larger aperture, which is specially true for FF sensor. If you insist of using central AF point, then what is the meaning of putting other points?
@BeanyPic: What a theory on pricing? Somebody should give you a novel prize on economics.
Omission of built-in flash means omission of built-in wireless commander also. This two features are indispensable to any camera for photo.
Sure, you can make your camera unit heavier like 1D X by putting heavy lens and external flash unit, but that is not the design goal of a light weight travel camera. This camera is designed light weight and travel camera in mind.
@fd...: If the camera has an articulating screen, I don't need to buy an android phone, is not it? or Is the android phone included in the box? How much a android phone cost?
Lea5: According to DPRreview: "At Photokina the EOS 6D is star of the show, despite the rather muted reception it has received." Sounds good.
Its because people are looking for an enthusiast FF DSLR for long time. Although they are disappointed, they are lining up to see it.
AP7: Canon 6D may use the same shutter as Rebel series. Although the shutter in rebel camera can support 1/200 sec flash sync, in 6D it can only support 1/180sec due to longer travel (as the sensor is bigger).
@Katie: Both 60D and 7D have 1/250sec flash sync speed. Does 60D sales hurt 7D sales.
Also, both T3 (1100D) and T4i/T3i/T2i have 1/200sec flash sync speed. Does T3 hurt T4i/T3i sales? The answer is NO, Canon knows it very well.
Canon actually put full frame sensor with rebel hardware and casing with some improvement. They priced it with Nikon 600D to show that 6D is no less. But, after a month you'll see lots of discount to attract customers. For example, T4i is launched at $1000, you can buy it now for $800 or less ($200 discount within two months).
Canon's strategy is to design inferior product than comparable Nikon product so that they can give a huge discount to attract customers. After all consumers always look for best deal and sale!
Canon played a very risky game with enthusiast customer by depriving them.
Canon 6D may use the same shutter as Rebel series. Although the shutter in rebel camera can support 1/200 sec flash sync, in 6D it can only support 1/180sec due to longer travel (as the sensor is bigger).
nffeeee: I have been a Nikon user (D700) for a while (six months, four years ago) before switching to Canon and still very happy about my decision. I have a 5d MKII and a 5d MK III and I would NEVER change to Nikon. Why? 1) Canon glasses2) Canon colours 3) Canon Services4) Would you spend your time choosing one of the 345 AF points instead of understand the right focal plane to focus with a single point?5) Nikon's images look always greenish and artifical, no matters more MP.. I tried the D800.. I am not able to get what I want from Nikon RAWS with PS (I am still a Kodachrome fanboy).. I get great results with Canon in 5 minutes
So please TRY the 6D before judging... when I bought the 5d mk III I just saw the specs and I was sure it was only a real small update.. I change my idea when I started to use it.. USE IT AND JUDGE IT!!!
@nffeee: Canon got a huge number of complain from the users of 5D Mark III and 1DX because of using 61 point AF that makes photographers life difficult to choose one AF point out of 61.
Canon realizes the fault and design 6D using 11 AF point with only center cross so that photographer can now use 50mm f/1.2 lens and center point AF to focus and recompose and then get a blurry image !.
Josnio: A full frame camera with only 1/180 sec flash sync speed ?I´m a Canon user who wants to upgrade.. but this sync speed is even worse than Nikon D600´s to balance ambient light with flash.. What´s Canon thinking about..?
Really, flash sync speed depends on external flash, LOL
George Veltchev: I can smell another top selling new entry from Canon ! Bravo!
Its called overpriced Canon 6D that is introduced to match Nikon D600 in price and will be available after four months (they need this time to actually finish the product, what you see is a 60D casing), but not in quality!
AP7: Canon 6D compares well with Nikon D3200, both has 11-point AF system and both are entry level camera.
Nikon D3200 is lighter, and may have better low light and DR performance (even though it has APS-C sensor). D3200 also has built in flash and flash sync 1t 1/200 sec (vs no flash and 1/180 sec for Canon).
Canon 6D has no other advantage than DOF as a travel camera.
Who cares about those thing if light weight camera and AF performance are of prime importance (and this camera is designed as a light weight travel camera in mind).
Focus and recompose is a very old concept and very inaccurate method when DOF is very narrow (which is specially true for FF sensor). At least, it should have all cross-point AF system.
Possible if it is priced at $1500 with kit lens.
Canon 6D compares well with Nikon D3200, both has 11-point AF system and both are entry level camera.
Gothmoth: i don´t care about a popup flash.. i never used it on my aps-c bodys.
but 11 AF points and only ONE cross point AF sensor?this is not 2006 this is 2012 canon!!!
and 180/s flash sync.. you must be kidding.and i thought the 200/s are bad enough but no you can cripple it even more canon.... :(
i hope everyone will buy a D600.. and i say that as canon user.... maybe it´s time canon gets a kick in the a$$ and loses a big part of the market share.
they are a layz bunch of people lately.... offering NOTHING that´s exciting.
Canon 6D compares well with Nikon D3200, both has 11-point AF system.
AP7: So poor specification! For the same price as Nikon D600, who will buy Canon 6D? Canon is certainly out of competition. I believe Canon will slash the price to $1500 after a month.
Now, its time to switch. Canon can no longer capable of holding them.
People with EF-S will be the first to switch.
NIKON is the KING in DSLR photography.
fjmjr: The 6D is another disappointment from Canon. Canon offers always less than the basic Nikon SLR. Among other things, this is why, over 10 years loyal to the brand, I sold my 7D last month and all lenses, flash etc to buy a Nikon D800.
Good decision. No question, as always Nikon is the leader with premium grade Camera and Canon is the follower with cheaper budget grade Camera.