Retzius: Let me guess... its sharp stopped down to f8, soft wide open, especially at the long end, and is only recommended if you need an all-in-one convenience lens.
Am i right?
You are wrong. It is not soft wide open in all the focal lengths and also it is not sharp in f/8 in all the focal lengths.
That's why we need review and lens data!
Thanks for the review. Since test data are ready, please publish following lens review soon:
1. Canon EF-S 18-135mm STM2. Sigma 18-200mm II DC OS HSM
Also, waiting for:
1. Canon 40mm STM2. A group review of 18-105mm/125mm/135mm (Sony/Pentax/Canon/Nikon/Sigma)3. A group review of 18-55mm4. A group review of 55-200/250/300mm5. A group review of 50mm f/1.86. A group review of 35mm f/1.8
Also, why dxomark does not show lens data for Sigma 18-250mm Macro? How does the resolution scale differ from that of dxomark limiting resolution profile (dxomark: 0-100, dpreview: 0-1875)?
Clint Dunn: Great review. Too bad it's of a lens that I would not look at twice let alone buy. Slow superzooms = compromises, nothing to learn here, end of review.
How about the new Fuji line of lenses, or the new Zeiss 15mm 2.8 ZE, or any of a number of other far more interesting lenses.
Similarly, the quality of a lens is proportional to its price.
Expensive lens = Better Lens, very simple.
Therefore, no need to review expensive lens!
Inexpensive lens needs to review because we need to know within some price bracket which lens gives more.
AP7: It is better to have 18-55mm and 55-250mm lenses than this expensive superzoom ($300 for two vs $550 for one). Two lenses combo is cheaper and optically better than Sigma.
Comparison with Canon 18-200mm is missing (only IS performance is compared, no comparison on Sharpness, etc.).
Thanks Andy for your excellent work. Please review lenses from all the categories: budget and luxury/professional, prime and zoom, etc. Please not concentrate only on the expensive lenses as many people suggested. There are lots of non-professional folks here.
It is better to have 18-55mm and 55-250mm lenses than this expensive superzoom ($300 for two vs $550 for one). Two lenses combo is cheaper and optically better than Sigma.
Nikon, Sony, Pentax ... all have affordable, newer built 35mm f/1.8, 50mm f/1.8, etc prime lenses for non-professional folks.
Canon should also update their enthusiastic prime lenses and offer at affordable price point. All the new lenses that Canon updated recently are way more expensive. Seems they forgot their enthusiastic market.
Also, really surprised, being one of the major camera manufacturer, Canon took so long to realize the importance of center-pinch cap design. Why Canon cannot take initiative/lead and be innovative? So far, what I see is, Canon is always forced to update their product by other manufacturer. What a shame for Canon !
George Veltchev: OK ...lets say that the D600 has the upper hand in regards to some specifications, despite the amateurish build in flash and the cheap plastic body. The 6D has to be superior in the Image quality comparison however. As a proud owner of the old Canon 5D MarkII, I personally do not care so much about the type of auto-focusing since I have always use the central focusing point. And lets do not forget the fact that Canon's EF lens lineup is very ...very and I mean very strong indeed, a fact which many people are willing to forget. After all a great lens is a better investment than a camera body which in few months or a year time will be replaced with another.
@T3: At least, after 16hours of deep sleep, you found "certain types of photography" that benefits from off-center AF point. Can you name some? Did you try any of those yet?
montygm: Hi Steve,I know the built in flashes that come with SLR"s are not the greatest and their range is very limited but as I mentioned sometimes it comes down to convenience and less baggage to carry. Nikon were quite clever to incorporate this with their FF D800 where as Canon decided against it on their 5D range. This will appeal to a greater range of users that aren't uniquely based exclusively in the "Pro user" category only. Mostly I prefer not having to use flash if I can help it, as it can be very harsh and has unpleasant cold colour to it.But there have been a few moments that "pop up' has come in very handy though. When shooting outside on a bright day to lighten up shadows in eyes sockets for one.But putting that aside I feel Nikon are listening more to what their customers want than what Canon is lately. They have made a quality camera in the D600 without being afraid like Canon are of losing the high end sales of the 5D MK III. You will see Nikon leading by a miles with this.
@T3: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, You at last wake up after 16hours of deep sleep. Stop your stupid comparison. Many top quality Leica, Zeiss, etc. lenses are manual focus only, then why Canon produce AF lens. Better learn how to use off-center focus point to improve your photography. Still you have time to do. Nobody is asking for gazillion focus point.
Try to understand photography is pretty subjective. For example, many people know how to use flash, many people don't. Those who can't always say flash produce unnatural looking photos.
montygm: I was hoping to upgrade my 500D soon and go full frame. Have been waiting for the announcement of this new camera for ages but now having read about it I will be holding off. If the Canon 5D MK III had a pop up flash and was less bulky I would have bought it. All the extra gizmos with GPS is all marketing hype aimed at people who are more interested in tech gadgets as opposed to a quality camera that takes good photos. Get yourself a GPS unit instead.
@T3: "More powerful", did you ever read the Specification of 90EX, don't establish yourself funny.
@T3: You are living in dark age in cave. You need to modernize yourself. Just wondering, why do you need to answer every post? Look like, you work in Canon? Don't need your biased opinion any more.
You need to see this video to understand the importance of other focus point than center one. See all three part by Rudy Winston from Canon:
@T3: If you are too excited, just buy it and shut up. You don't need to influence other people to buy one crap. Everybody will buy with their own money, not yours. So, let others to decide what they want and what they don't want to buy.
fdfgdfgdgf: A Phone as a remote LCD monitor?
"You can use your smartphone for remote camera control and operation (with the EOS Remote app),"
Does it possible?
So, you think everyone in this universe has a android or iphone? and other phone (non-smart phone) does not exist now, LOL?
If someone want to buy a DSLR, he must have an android phone also? What an assumptions? Probably, you are a gadget lover, not photographer!
But, there is no wireless commander also. Buying a flash unit does not solve wireless flash issue.
@George: Using central AF all the time should results in focus inaccuracy for larger aperture, which is specially true for FF sensor. If you insist of using central AF point, then what is the meaning of putting other points?
@BeanyPic: What a theory on pricing? Somebody should give you a novel prize on economics.
Omission of built-in flash means omission of built-in wireless commander also. This two features are indispensable to any camera for photo.
Sure, you can make your camera unit heavier like 1D X by putting heavy lens and external flash unit, but that is not the design goal of a light weight travel camera. This camera is designed light weight and travel camera in mind.
@fd...: If the camera has an articulating screen, I don't need to buy an android phone, is not it? or Is the android phone included in the box? How much a android phone cost?
Lea5: According to DPRreview: "At Photokina the EOS 6D is star of the show, despite the rather muted reception it has received." Sounds good.
Its because people are looking for an enthusiast FF DSLR for long time. Although they are disappointed, they are lining up to see it.
AP7: Canon 6D may use the same shutter as Rebel series. Although the shutter in rebel camera can support 1/200 sec flash sync, in 6D it can only support 1/180sec due to longer travel (as the sensor is bigger).
@Katie: Both 60D and 7D have 1/250sec flash sync speed. Does 60D sales hurt 7D sales.
Also, both T3 (1100D) and T4i/T3i/T2i have 1/200sec flash sync speed. Does T3 hurt T4i/T3i sales? The answer is NO, Canon knows it very well.
Canon actually put full frame sensor with rebel hardware and casing with some improvement. They priced it with Nikon 600D to show that 6D is no less. But, after a month you'll see lots of discount to attract customers. For example, T4i is launched at $1000, you can buy it now for $800 or less ($200 discount within two months).
Canon's strategy is to design inferior product than comparable Nikon product so that they can give a huge discount to attract customers. After all consumers always look for best deal and sale!
Canon 6D may use the same shutter as Rebel series. Although the shutter in rebel camera can support 1/200 sec flash sync, in 6D it can only support 1/180sec due to longer travel (as the sensor is bigger).
nffeeee: I have been a Nikon user (D700) for a while (six months, four years ago) before switching to Canon and still very happy about my decision. I have a 5d MKII and a 5d MK III and I would NEVER change to Nikon. Why? 1) Canon glasses2) Canon colours 3) Canon Services4) Would you spend your time choosing one of the 345 AF points instead of understand the right focal plane to focus with a single point?5) Nikon's images look always greenish and artifical, no matters more MP.. I tried the D800.. I am not able to get what I want from Nikon RAWS with PS (I am still a Kodachrome fanboy).. I get great results with Canon in 5 minutes
So please TRY the 6D before judging... when I bought the 5d mk III I just saw the specs and I was sure it was only a real small update.. I change my idea when I started to use it.. USE IT AND JUDGE IT!!!
@nffeee: Canon got a huge number of complain from the users of 5D Mark III and 1DX because of using 61 point AF that makes photographers life difficult to choose one AF point out of 61.
Canon realizes the fault and design 6D using 11 AF point with only center cross so that photographer can now use 50mm f/1.2 lens and center point AF to focus and recompose and then get a blurry image !.