DT200: Big Disappointment. The VF is worse and sensor will either be the same or slightly worse than the NEX 7 due to all the PDAF pixels (just tlike the NEX 6 was slightly worse).Even if the the PDAF works this time, there are still no long lenses with wide apertures to use it with. The 55-210 is too slow and is F/6.3.I guess you could wait for the 70-200mm lens, but its size is bigger than the Canon and Nikon full frame versions which defeats the purpose of the system.For now the NEX 7 is a bargain. Better VF, possibly better sensor and instead use less expense more abundant legacy lenses.
I think that Sony E 70-200 f/2.8 is much SMALLER than the respective Canikons.
igor_s: Much the same what I thought about this. No sensor-shift IS, poor ergonomics, not-so-good focus aids implementation. An A-mount camera would be much better for IS and handling, but you would not be able to use any Canon, Konica or Minolta lenses with it (at least for infinity). Anyway, it Sony offered the Z-axis sensor-shift AF, that would be awesome.
That is not my idea, there's been some rumors about that:http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52093143
Nowadays the IS is essential for almost any general-use system. That's it.
Much the same what I thought about this. No sensor-shift IS, poor ergonomics, not-so-good focus aids implementation. An A-mount camera would be much better for IS and handling, but you would not be able to use any Canon, Konica or Minolta lenses with it (at least for infinity). Anyway, it Sony offered the Z-axis sensor-shift AF, that would be awesome.
"OM-D E-M1. It's not the highest scoring camera in this class, because it isn't the very best for image quality (which our scoring system is heavily weighted towards"
Perhaps the 70D got your Gold Award for its stunning image quality? LOL
Yellow kiss follows))
Must be a @revolutionary@ 100D with the new AF... oh well, in white.
vermas: I currently have Canon Rebel Xsi ( 450 D) and I am planning to upgrade. My main motivation for the upgrade is to have better low light photographs, essentially lower noise while using high ISO.
Question: How much better 70D compared to Rebel Xsi (450 D) ?
You can check it yourself either on DxOMark (compare SNR 18% charts) or in the 70D review by DPR (compare the test shots at higher ISOs).
ConnieE: I shoot a 5DMarkiI (people and Macros). I would like a crop sensor for birds. I have been waiting for the replacement of the 7D.
1) would the 70D be a good choice
2. Do you have a guess what the option difference might be?
3. Any idea what the price might be on the 7D replacement.
I think there is absolutely nothing better about 70D vs 7D in this respect. Picture quality is about the same, viewfinder size is the same or even smaller (you can check), burst rate is not higher, phase-detect AF is not better, body is plastic (7D - metal). Well, it has 20K pixels vs 18K in 7D but I will bet that nobody can tell the difference in a real shot. So, if you are not going to communicate with birds via WiFi...
All criticism over the Df being true, BUT compare the tone of its discussion with that of 70D! And you will see what Canon is strong in)).
Adrian Van: Please put the 16MP sensor into a D800 pro body and charge the same $3000 for body, call it a D750 and you would likely sell a lot more of these bodies than the smaller market for a DF. No retooling to do, just change the sensor assembly and decal on body. Of course, that cannot happen as it would offset D4 sales, and give a lot of us event shooters what we want at the right price.
DF: although a small body with FF sensor is a great concept but price will leave it for those willing to pay it. Six months to a year the price will likely go down $300. Sony A7/ A7R prices seem more reasonable, just their new lenses are expensive.
I would buy a D800, or D610 (or better yet a D750) over the DF, for the rest of bodies higher specifications than DF. If I am spending that much money for a camera, the weight is less important than having all the functionality of the top Nikon DSLRs. Of course I do not fit the market for the DF.
Better still, make the D800 compatible with old lenses, that's it. But you see, Nikon would not give the Df high-end features except the sensor and OVF (1/8000 max shutter speed, AF system etc).
Sergey Borachev: Great camera for those who like things nostalgic in this day and age.
For me, I will never get a camera like this ever again. It still has a flapping mirror and an OVF, and it uses big lenses. It is good as a collectible item though, as DSLRs continue to "fade away".
Big lenses are necessary for big sensor, and at the time no EVF can substitute OVF. If you are a P&S shooter, good luck.
More people nowadays are eating meat substitutes, so you could say that natural meat is fading away.
If only not 1/4000 SS, 5.5 fps and AF from D610. Best sensor, old lens compatibility and lower-end features for $2700 ... I don't know....
Botom line: 70D would be the class leader 3 years ago, before D7000 and SLT A55 appeared. When its new AF system works much better there will be another talk and another comparison with its future rivals.
Though, Canon is unbeatable in ergonomics, lens choice/price and ... marketing.
prodrone: Do not want to sound negative, but looking for a mid-range camera and this thing costs much more then of the old trusty Sony A65 (2011), Canon has less megapixels, slower burst, no IBIS, no GPS, compared to that old 2011 Sony. Looking at video, again, D70 has only 30fps video while lower priced Sony got FullHD 60fps progressive two years back.., what is going on ? Second, why the gold award ? Where is the innovation ? Where is the spec worthy of 2013 ? Even Nokia sports 40 MPx cameras today.
3 stops difference LOL))). If it were so, Canon would jump out of their trousers and post it everywhere. Do you think that such your claims can help Canon? Don't worry, they will sell a lot of that *innovation". Even DPR postponed their review, imho not to hurt Canon. And that was not enough, they gave it a gold award.
igor_s: Gold award? Good joke.
Even move/video mode - the only thing in which 70D was supposed to excel - is not as good as its "comparatively small WF" and $1200 tag (see the ratings). Meaning that 60D with not-so-good new AF at $ 1200 would be a bargain. Oh, well, add AF microadjustment, silent mode and Wi-Fi... and FOUR years distance.
Though, if you keep your eyes open you can see the real picture, thanks DPR.
You mean that Canon fans will not listen:)?
yabokkie&naththo, we are speaking about the body not the lens, right? The body's specs are nowhere better and in some respects poorer than 2011 Sony's. Its new AF system deserves attention but at the time that's all about it. Even DPR did not give it excellent grade. Then what else? I have read that someone could see a big difference in noise level between 7D and 70D but you know......
Gold award? Good joke.
Looks like a modern reincarnation of my old Fuji F11. It had a 6MP 1/1.6'' (about the same as 2/3) sensor and a similar lens (no OS though). And it was far above the competition in terms of noise level.
grafli: Dual Pixel AF, cool if you have a bad Copy of a superb Lens ;-)Otherwise i prefere Phasedetection... I'm old school.
white shadow, are you speaking about the conventional or on-chip PDAF? The latter seems to be rather resource-hungry and is not that fast in 70D. I am saying that with processors ca. x10 faster than currently used and advanced algorithms CDAF will likely become very fast and essentially non-hunting. In principle, it will always be hunting, but the speed and the deviation will become such that you won't be able to perceive the effect.And :- the above is important only for video. For stills. some hunting is harmless, provided it can get focus not slower that the competing technology.