Jeff Seltzer: I understand the idea of a very expensive, niche product/brand that's supposed to appeal to a small audience that truly can appreciate the expertise and craftsmanship and is willing to pay for the opportunity. I guess you can say that's the goal for any luxury brand. But, you expect those products/brands to truly set the bar and lead the way in terms of innovation. Is that we have in this case?
The thing is: where can you take pictures with this camera? Leicas are for street photography, but you can't use these beasts without a bodyguard. Well, if you can spend $10000 in a niche camera, you can probably pay $200 bucks each time you go out to take pictures.
King Messi: Spend more of your time taking pictures or finding a better camera instead of bashing Leica non stop. If Leica is not for you move on.
The sad thing is that we'll only see Monochrom pictures from Dubai, Abu Dhabi and so on, taken from their custom Gold Monochrom cameras.
Does it come with a built-in anti-theft, GPS app?
Also coming soon is the 50MP Lumia 1030. The mobile world is so 2010 these days, when Nokia N8 brought a premium, 1/1.8", 12MP compact camera packed into a smartphone body.
joao salvador: I have and use the iphone 6 and the Note 4. Samsung for everyday/work and iphone as second contact phone and for weekends. The Note 4 is clearly the best for pictures and video. The iphone lags beyond but takes fantastic panoramas and sometimes gives you more natural colours. Problem is the Note is sometimes awkward to use and always requires two hands to get sharp pictures even with ois. But when you manage to keep it steady it provides clearly better results than the iphone. My wife has the 6+ and despite the ois it has the same problems of stability as the Note. So, in my opinion, it's the iphone for panoramas and the Note for everything else (provided you can keep it steady). Maybe the S6 will be the best of both worlds. BTW: my RX 100 smokes all of the above and it's not much more difficult to carry than the Note 4 or 6+!
My old Pana LX3 smokes any modern smartphone, even the 808 Pureview (the benchmark in still pictures). However, I think Nokia 930 and 1520 are the current winners. As a bonus, you get HDR audio capture, that is, you can record a black metal concert without being annoyed with unwanted distortions (you'll only get the wanted distortion from the guitars :P).
Peiasdf: For iOS, I am already using the best camera on iPhone 6+.
For Android, the only two broadly available phones I would consider are Note 4 and Galaxy S6. Other Android OEMs for some reason still don't care much about processing like Samsung before S4 and all the photos are low quality.
For Microsoft, I have no idea what they are doing. They abandoned high end markets to focus on mid and low-range phones leaving 930 a minor upgrade over 920/925 and 1520 as holdover from 2013.
Microsoft is doing pretty well in mid-end phones and reasonably well in high-end phones. There are construction issues, like loose physical buttons or badly installed internal mics. BUT you usually will be able to return your defective device and get a non-defective unit.
When you get a fully working unit, they're awesome phones. Even in the low end you get better audio capture than in the iPhone 6. I record my band at studio with my L930 without distortions, something that our bassist can't with his iPhone 6.
The DNG capture is also nice feature. The bad thing is that I can't copy the files easily (i.e. through USB) to my Mac, so I have to attach the device to my Windows 8 VM or send the files to the cloud.
Microsoft is also doing a good job on providing offline content like radios (up to four) and maps. I can't see a good reason for having an iPhone... Even AirDrop, an Apple-only feature, doesn't work when I try to transfer files from my wife's iPhone to our Macs.
Dré de Man: 28mm equivalent is mostly boring for landscapes and cityscapes and way too short for almost all pictures of people. It's the one focal length I hardly ever use. It is very good though for egg head and other ugly pictures you can only excuse for by saying your phone manufacturer is smarter than you are.
So don't buy it.
For street photography, I think it's a good compromise.
As an occasional amateur photographer, I'm much more interested on the Panasonic CM1 cameraphone. I don't want another expensive camera whose sensor will become obsolete in a couple of years. I'm still happy with my old LX3 in this sense. I just want a LX3 packed inside a smartphone.
Sonyshine: Quite possibly the worst mobile handset to be launched in the last couple of years.
To me it looks better than the over-sharpened pictures from the S5, which shows a lot of halos. It also resolves more detail than the S5 as we can see by looking the moiré test rulers.
Just put a 808 Pureview sensor on a modern smartphone and take my money.
white shadow: Interesting. Looks like Panasonic is trying to come back to the mobile phone market after years of absence by introducing this devise. However, the price is a big hindrance to its return.
How many users will want such a camera on a smartphone? How good is this phone by itself? The Panasonic brand for smartphone is not well accepted at this moment. Too much risk for the new buyer. Is Panasonic coming back to this market to stay? Is this a one off product?
Panasonic was in the handphone business in the 90s but left after a few years.
I wouldn't by the first iteration of this device because it's priced pretty high. But I can imagine Sony, Samsung or Nokia/Microsoft bringing more affordable models in the future.
rfsIII: Yeee haaaa!!!! Finally, the phone of my dreams. As a person who shoots events from time to time and needs to upload photos to client websites while the event is happening, this camera will solve a lot of problems for me.
This is a compact premium camera WITH a smartphone. Think on journalists and serious amateurs.
Awesome. Panasonic always promoting new tendencies on photography. Remember LX3, GX1, GH1...
Hopefully other brands like Samsung and Sony will bring something in this line.
808 still wins. I have a Galaxy Note I (2011) and I'll only upgrade to a decent camera phone. Moving from the N8 to the Galaxy Note I lost a lot of fun taking pictures through the phone and I want to recover it.
TheScrambler: It's nice. It's small. It feels good and it's quality is nearly at full frame level. But should i really leave APSC-DSLR technology ? I really dont know...;-)
I want using my legacy lenses, so another brand new APS-C camera is more of the same c*** to me.
sblecher6sj7: Three of us performed a side by side test with a NikonD800, a Canon 60d and a Mamiya 645 Pro. The Mamiya was loaded with Kodak Portra color negative film. The pictures were taken with the cameras on a tripod and the focal lengths were chosen to give the same field coverage. The focal lenth of the Nikon Test shots was !.6 times the Canon and the Mamiya focal length was 1.6 times the Nikon. Then the Mamiya negatives were scanned with a Nikon Coolscan 8000 scanner. The Nikon D800 was best performer, and handily outperformed the Mamiya , and Canon 60D also was better than the Mamiya by a smaller margin. Both digital cameras were both much less noisy than the scanned negative. Since the image from the Mamiya doesn't require as much enlargement,it's still capable of making a big print, but not as good as the Nikon D800. The Mamiya can produce a bigger print than my old Canon 30D. Too bad the test written up in DP Review didn't include any DSLR's between the 40D and The D800.
I think film will never compete with DSLRs in the "gross noise count". Film will always look noisy for the new generation of photographers. On the other hand, film noise is something you can live with while digital noise is monotonous and therefore more disturbing as that pattern take your attention.
On the other hand, the Velvia textures on the metal cable at bottom of the test picture or that gray building at mid right shows that film still is a good option for texture maniacs like me.
Maybe a raw picture from D800 can be better processed, but considering only this review, I still prefer the film one at daylight.
To me the best performer in daylight was the Velvia one. I prefer preserving textures as nearly-random film noise isn't really annoying. This test shows two things: smartphone cameras are not that bad and film is still alive (for practicity you'd better using a D800 though).
I'm still waiting a better camera phone than Nokia 808. Lumia 1020 looks overprocessed and oversharpened.
Boring review... Lumia 1020 wins with a slight margin against S4Z although Nokia 808 has a way better camera for still pictures, albeit it's outdated. In videos, however, the competition is tougher.
Maybe we'll have a better cameraphone landscape when we'll have truly Nokia competitors. But at that time we'll have an even better Nokia phone - a Lumia 1120, maybe.
Currently, when you have a near-premium compact camera performance, you have to buy a Nokia. There aren't any other reasonable options.
Wouldn't the new iPhone 5S have a bigger 8MP sensor than the previous version? This article points to the same sensor size.