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On article Panasonic GX7 First Impressions Review (1200 comments in total)

"The rear control dial also serves as a button, by default bringing up exposure compensation in program and semi-auto modes (adjusting by +/- 5 stops in 1/3 stop increments)."

And what front dial does in these modes?

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 20:19 UTC as 256th comment | 3 replies
On article Panasonic GX7 First Impressions Review (1200 comments in total)
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peevee1: NEX-6 is less than $600 ($648 - $50 gift card and includes plenty of extra accessories on B&H). E-M5, with 5-axis IBIS actually working in video, 9 full-res fps and WEATHER SEALED BODY is about $850. $1000 for this is totally crazy today (of course $1000 for E-P5 is even crazier).

And $1100 with the stupidly dark 14-42 II which is not even that small and does not have powerzoom, compared to NEX-6 with 16-50 PZ for less then $700 (with total package even smaller and lighter)? Even crazier. GX1 fell to its rightful price of $199 in one year of availability, this one will probably hit $299.

"I also find it comical you brought up power zooms, the kind of thing that typically appeals to point and shoot upgraders"

Or those zooming in video... Besides, look up the sizes, it so happens that only Pana and Sony powerzooms are decently compact kit zooms fitting the compact form factor and having a chance to fit in a coat pocket when mounted on the cameras, unlike this 14-42 II.

" and the kind of thing you can also buy with this camera if you really want it (after all, Sony rushed to match Panasonic here). "

Sure, for about $400 extra, vs $100 for Sony PZ 16-50. So it would be $1400 vs $700, for the camera with about 20% lower maximum usable ISO and lower DR. What a deal.

"NEX6 also omits the tilting EVF"

Tilting EVF is ABSOLUTELY useless for people with necks, and the EVF is field-sequential junk.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 18:21 UTC
On article Panasonic GX7 First Impressions Review (1200 comments in total)
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peevee1: NEX-6 is less than $600 ($648 - $50 gift card and includes plenty of extra accessories on B&H). E-M5, with 5-axis IBIS actually working in video, 9 full-res fps and WEATHER SEALED BODY is about $850. $1000 for this is totally crazy today (of course $1000 for E-P5 is even crazier).

And $1100 with the stupidly dark 14-42 II which is not even that small and does not have powerzoom, compared to NEX-6 with 16-50 PZ for less then $700 (with total package even smaller and lighter)? Even crazier. GX1 fell to its rightful price of $199 in one year of availability, this one will probably hit $299.

"So, you're implying this is a better camera than the E-P5, and $100 is too much for the 14-42 II lens."

No, I am "implying" (or rather explicitly postulate :) ) that the camera is about the same as NEX-6 and as such priced about $400 too high.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 18:15 UTC
On article Panasonic GX7 First Impressions Review (1200 comments in total)
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peevee1: NEX-6 is less than $600 ($648 - $50 gift card and includes plenty of extra accessories on B&H). E-M5, with 5-axis IBIS actually working in video, 9 full-res fps and WEATHER SEALED BODY is about $850. $1000 for this is totally crazy today (of course $1000 for E-P5 is even crazier).

And $1100 with the stupidly dark 14-42 II which is not even that small and does not have powerzoom, compared to NEX-6 with 16-50 PZ for less then $700 (with total package even smaller and lighter)? Even crazier. GX1 fell to its rightful price of $199 in one year of availability, this one will probably hit $299.

"NEX6 is perfectly competent and yes, it sells for less and you get... less."

What "less"? You get more sensor, apps but no IBIS or touchscreen. That's it. Seems like a fair trade.

"The GX7 is the closest thing to the complete package in the mirrorless market."

Wrong, no weather sealing or IBIS which actually works in video, and works well.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 16:34 UTC
On article Panasonic GX7 First Impressions Review (1200 comments in total)

NEX-6 is less than $600 ($648 - $50 gift card and includes plenty of extra accessories on B&H). E-M5, with 5-axis IBIS actually working in video, 9 full-res fps and WEATHER SEALED BODY is about $850. $1000 for this is totally crazy today (of course $1000 for E-P5 is even crazier).

And $1100 with the stupidly dark 14-42 II which is not even that small and does not have powerzoom, compared to NEX-6 with 16-50 PZ for less then $700 (with total package even smaller and lighter)? Even crazier. GX1 fell to its rightful price of $199 in one year of availability, this one will probably hit $299.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 15:19 UTC as 259th comment | 13 replies
On article Panasonic GX7 First Impressions Review (1200 comments in total)
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chillgreg: $1000 body only? Ha haha hahaha hahahahaha!!!

NEX-6 is less than $600 ($648 - $50 gift card and includes plenty of extra accessories on B&H). E-M5, with 5-axis IBIS actually working in video, 9 full-res fps and WEATHER SEALED BODY is about $850. $1000 for this is totally crazy today (of course $1000 for E-P5 is even crazier).

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 15:16 UTC
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Panasonicus: As an owner of a G3 with which I am very pleased (apart from very poor battery life) I am open to an upgrade but not size-wise. Most of the GF series offer nothing over the G series and especially if you require a viewfinder. That this one also allows the use of Olympus lenses while retaining IS is a big deal indeed. I suspect the only wasp in the paste will be the price. Aside from that possible deal breaker, this looks like the best yet from Panasonic--especially if it is as small as my much loved G3.
Update: just read the specs--its quite a lot larger and heavier than the G3. Pity--what is the real advantage here other than more direct controls? No fully articulated screen is a negative.

"GX7 looks to have a cheaper start price than an OMD"

It is actually the same in the US (if you forget about OM-D promotions at start, like free flash etc). But it is not 18 months ago, E-M5 body can be had for $850, and NEX-6 body for less than $600.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 15:11 UTC
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tkbslc: Pop up viewfinder, cool.

Shooting right up often? What's wrong with your neck then?

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 15:05 UTC
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Mikhail Tal: DPR You do not have a great track record recently of reviewing mirrorless cameras. The GF5, G5, E-PL5, NEX-5R and NX 20 seem to have been skipped completely, and the GF6, G6 and NEX-3N have been available for a few months with still no review. I'm not even counting the E-PL6 but you haven't reviewed that yet either. In contrast you've reviewed literally every DSLR released so far except the newish K-50, as far as I can tell, and almost every premium compact and even some cheap compacts.

So with that all being said, I strongly request that you give the GX7 review VERY HIGH priority. On paper it is the best mirrorless camera to date, and one of the best if not the best consumer-level cameras of any variety to date. It deserves your quick attention, a whole lot more than, say, the Canon T5i did.

Simon Joinson: "sad truth is DLSR reviews get a lot more traffic than most mirrorless, so they get prioritized. It's not because we don't want to review them all, we just don't have the resources (yet) to do so."

T5i review should have been done like this: "see T4i review, only the kit 18-55 lens is a little bigger and mode dial goes around without stops".

SL1 review should have been done "see T5i review, only the camera is smaller and uncomfortable to hold, battery life is much shorter and the screen does not articulate".

See, saved you a whole man-months at least. And extra click-throughs to the respectable reviews. :)

But you still have a chance to use that tactic with Pentax k-50: "See k-30, only available in more colors". Done.

I give you the reproduction rights for the above reviews free of charge. :)

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 15:04 UTC
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Mikhail Tal: DPR You do not have a great track record recently of reviewing mirrorless cameras. The GF5, G5, E-PL5, NEX-5R and NX 20 seem to have been skipped completely, and the GF6, G6 and NEX-3N have been available for a few months with still no review. I'm not even counting the E-PL6 but you haven't reviewed that yet either. In contrast you've reviewed literally every DSLR released so far except the newish K-50, as far as I can tell, and almost every premium compact and even some cheap compacts.

So with that all being said, I strongly request that you give the GX7 review VERY HIGH priority. On paper it is the best mirrorless camera to date, and one of the best if not the best consumer-level cameras of any variety to date. It deserves your quick attention, a whole lot more than, say, the Canon T5i did.

"On paper it is the best mirrorless camera to date"

Almost gave your thumbs up, and then this.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 14:57 UTC
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BeaniePic: Are we back in the 50's? Someone needs to really look forward and stop looking back for styles.

True, but many companies tried about 10 years ago to come up with better styles and failed. Besides, left corner viewfinder is a genuinely better thing than a more central location in DSLRs.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 14:54 UTC
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Kim Letkeman: Obviously a new sensor line, hopefully with specsa to match the G5/G6 rather than the GX1. The rest of the features are pretty much brilliant. Now to wait for the prices to come down to sane levels ...

G5/G6 have the sensor with higher high ISO noise than GX1...

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 14:48 UTC
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Valentinian: Olympus ! what were you thinking when you made the EP5 without an EVF ?

They were thinking they have OM-D line for those who want built-in EVF, and PEN line for those who want removable EVF.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 14:46 UTC
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TN Args: Why would they choose an eye point of only 17.5mm? Surely eyeglass wearers like me cannot live with that? My camera's eye point is 22mm and it is only just enough when wearing glasses. I would not want to go below 21mm.

What were they thinking?

"Using a small EVF on a small micro 3/4 camera is not going to help much. If one really need an effective viewfinder, it would be best to get a DSLR with a real optical viewfinder."

You are totally and completely wrong. The view through this viewfinder is about twice as big in every direction compared to APS-C DSLRs like Rebel, and similar to FF DSLRs give. It is also much brighter in low light, and don't burn your eyes when there is a sun or other bright light in the frame.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 14:45 UTC
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wootpile: That's a good-looking camera with lot's of features.
seems kind of heavy though compared to the APS-C offers on hand... ?

it is larger and heavier than the fuji xm1, heavier than fuji xe1, larger and heavier than pana nx300, and ALL sony nex

with all the above offering superior image quality (less crop factor, increased dof, and resolution).. unless pana have created a completely new sensortechnology - which they haven't

What happened to the m43 = small idea?

"it is larger and heavier than the fuji xm1"

plastic, no EVF, no IBIS...

", heavier than fuji xe1,"

plastic, no IBIS...

" larger and heavier than pana nx300,"

Pana? You mean Sammi? plastic, no EVF, no IBIS, no flash...

" and ALL sony nex "

NEX-7 is the same weight, and does not have IBIS.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 14:28 UTC
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straylightrun: Looks like Fujifilm and Sony got together and made a baby and this is the end result.

Looks more like a cross between Olympus E-PL1 and Samsung NX210 - look them up.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 14:22 UTC
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nofumble: Supersize your sensor please

Well, a little multi-aspect-ratio sensor using the whole diameter of the image circle for ratios between 1:1 and 2:1 would not hurt, 4:3 to 16:9 at least.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 14:18 UTC
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John Miles: Add a reasonable 14-200 to that and the sales should take off nicely. You do have a 14-200 in the pipeline don't you?

They have very good small and light 14-140 f/3.5-f/5.6. You want the replacement for Tamron 18-270, I understand, but a lens like this, very dark and very soft at the long end, only makes sense on DSLRs because DSLRs don't have digital zoom, while on a mirrorless like Pana G6 you can reach the same or better effective FL, total level of light gathering and sharpness with just a little digital zoom, with preview both on the screen and in the EVF, AND keep the lens smaller and lighter.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 14:13 UTC
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Sosua: Is this a new kit lens? Looks tiny?

Pana 14-42 II is in fact pretty new, introduced just this year for G6/GF6 release, and in fact smaller than the older Pana 14-42 (and of course 14-45), although not nearly as small as Pana 14-42 X PZ. 14-42 II is also the darkest kit f/3.5-5.6 lens in the middle of the range, even darker than 12-50, and at their worst middle FLs about 0.5 EV darker than similarly sized and specced Olympus 14-42 II R f/3.5-5.6.
It is a shame that the kit zoom for GX7 is not the choice of 14-42 PZ, 12-35/2.8 or the new 14-140 f/3.5-f/5.6.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 14:07 UTC

Tilt-up EVF? I have even better technology - MY NECK! It tilts in all directions (and not just up) and its angles are flexible (and not just 90 degrees). And I can do it while keeping an eye on the EVF (don't try it with the sping-up thingy please!)

Although this tilt-up EVF must be invaluable for a triceratops shooting a pterodactyl in the sky.

Link | Posted on Aug 2, 2013 at 14:00 UTC as 19th comment | 5 replies
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