peevee1: " full-frame DSLR with the sensor and processing guts of the company's flagship D4"
It has the sensor, but not the processor of D4. D4 is able to process 12 frames per second off that sensor, not just 5.5.Cheap sensor from 2y/o D4.Cheap internals from 1.5 y/o D600, with "economized" to non-existence video codec and ports, microphones and flash.Cheap battery from D3200 and Coolpix P7100.New retro body and cut-down firmware.
$999 camera which is so limited that they decided they would not be able to sell enough of them to break even with fixed costs at this price, so decided to overprice it for much more limited market.
"The D700 wasn't particularly fast, didn't have a good AF system, and sold for the same price as the suggested price of the Df."
It was 5 years ago. It is simply silly to refer to value proposition of 2008 while analyzing the market of the end of 2013 (more like 2014 given when it ships).
sh10453: It sounds like Canon is planning to release a pro series camera in white color.Perhaps to match the white (cream) color L line of lenses?
Since the release is in November, my guess is that DPR already has a copy for "first impression" and sample photos, and they probably are laughing at all our blabbing.
DPR have evaluated the camera last spring.
Amamba: Sony: new sensor.Canon: new paint job.
C'mon, Canon... make a EOS M2 with modern sensor and proper AF and EVF, working with EF lenses without the need for a $400 adapter.. even if it's an APS-C. I would gladly give Canon a second chance.
"Sony: new sensor."
Correction: Sony - new system every 3 years.
Pace of innovation from Canon is breathtaking.
" full-frame DSLR with the sensor and processing guts of the company's flagship D4"
Does f/6.s mean that no AF tracking will work on any DSLR because only central AF point will work with this lens, and on some DSLRs even that central point will not work?
"the 8.7MP smartphone just scored nearly as well as Nokia's 41MP flagship phone in DxOMark's extensive imaging tests"
Probably says more about DxOMark's test than about the cameras. After all, the sensor in 1020 is about 4 times the size, not only in resolution.
Earthrise: If anyone spots one I'd like to see a comparison of this lens and Olympus's new 12-40/2.8 M.Zuiko PRO (yes I know the range is different!)
Not very similar except in price, size and weather-sealing - the Oly is sharp wide open (unlike the Pentax which is soft), constant f/2.8, much more useful range covering everything from landscapes to portraits. True workhorse, which coupled with E-M1 or even E-M5 can earn some money to a professional owner.
Cameron R Hood: Gorgeous. Can't wait to see some images from it. Probably the best zoom lens ever.
The rest of you: quit your WHINING!
"Probably the best zoom lens ever."
Probably not. Ricoh itself says it is soft.
KL Matt: Will its image circle cover a full frame sensor? I'm kind of excited to find out. Not only because of this lens, but because of what it may or may not reveal about Ricoh's next move.
"Will its image circle cover a full frame sensor?"
If it would, they would label it FA, not DA.
HubertChen: This could be a perfectly balanced lens:
* Great IQ* Great Handling and Materials* Small and light weight* Quiet AF for Video* Unobtrusive for street* Potentially good bokeh (rounded blades + good lens formula)* weather sealing* Fast AF with Quickshift (manual focus override)
So lets wait for the test results. If they are excellent, than 1000 USD is a price many will be willing to pay for it, including me.
A truly unique and useful lens. Perfectly balanced to be the outstanding feature.
Ah, if the next Pentax Camera is like an A7 from Sony, except have the viewfinder in the corner, then we have a really cool system! (And I do not care for the thin camera body if each lens has to be longer to compensate for the short flange mount, but I care the build in EVF and I care it is placed in the corner like Range finder cameras, as in the corner it is more convenient to use and the camera does not collide with my nose)
" Great IQ"
I wouldn't bet on it. Ricoh Pentax itself says it is soft at wide apertures.
tinzi1: sigh, Pentax, u gotta put some investment in marketing research before production. look around! lame.
What are these lenses that is built like a tank, excellent IQ and is weather resistant?"
Who said this thing has excellent IQ? Even Pentax did not (read their press release: " making its appearance softer at larger apertures ")
PK24X36NOW: Sorry, but I don't get it, Pentax. This is a 2:1 zoom ratio, relatively slow, variable aperture lens that isn't very wide on the wide end, isn't very long on the long end, and you want 849 POUNDS for it (I don't even want to think of what that is in dollars)?!
The main thing that's "limited" about this lens is what - range, versatility??
You would think that for your top-line lenses, you should be able to muster a 3:1 zoom ratio, constant aperture, and a focal length range that isn't boring.
"It's small. Very small."
At 283 g and 71mm diameter and 69mm length, it is not very small. Panasonic 12-32 is small. This thing is about the size and weight of Panasonic 12-35/2.8, 24-70mm-equivalent zoom with constant f/2.8 aperture.
Thoughts: Who is still doing metal AF lenses these days? Simply beautiful !
"Who is still doing metal AF lenses these days?"
Canon. Olympus. Panasonic. Fuji.Who doesn't?
" It allows the photographer to optimise the subject’s visual description, by making its appearance softer at larger apertures and sharper at smaller apertures."
Translation: not sharp wide open.
Can't you buy infinitely more versatile 16-50 f/2.8 DA* at about the same price? Or maybe they are preparing a replacement for k-01 more appropriate for the size/weight of this lens?
peevee1: What is it on Q and Q10, something like 20-30 mm equivalent?
"FOCAL LENGTH (Q, Q10): 3.8-5.9mm (35mm equiv. 21-32.5mm)"
On 2 out of 3 Q-system cameras, it is not even UWA much.
What is it on Q and Q10, something like 20-30 mm equivalent?
Sdaniella: happy to see Canon rolling out dual-pixel AF more widely
especially on lower end models
maybe more prosumer Powershot G/S/SX series will be getting it too
as well as lower end EOS M/dSLRs (Rebels, etc)not just higher end EOS dSLRs
here:mini-dSLR shaped EOS M ... will it have dual pixel AF ?to surpass the more basic brick shaped EOS M?!
It is probably not EOS M but another Rebel painted white.
Leandros S: The idea that lenses need firmware still bothers me. Why would anybody engineer it that way? The lens should be a mindless slave to the camera imo.
"The idea that lenses need firmware still bothers me. Why would anybody engineer it that way? The lens should be a mindless slave to the camera imo."
You idea would be a wrong architecture. Each lens has some specific information related only to that lens, such as sharpness profiles, distortion profiles, CA profiles, motor control algorithms etc.If all the data is kept in camera, every camera firmware update would need firmware update for each lens - making number of updates equal to <number of cameras>*<number of lenses>. In the case of current architecture, number of updates is <number of cameras you have>+<number of lenses you have>, which is lower. And what about 3rd party lenses - body manufacturer is not going to support those (see Canon & Nikon), while lens manufacturers can release and update lens firmware easily.