This or Oly 17/1.8 as a great "evening" lens?
And I wonder if Oly or Kodak/JKI will ever support the aperture ring?
Randy Hoenisch: FYI - If I understand correctly, this series of photos shows prisons that carry-out death penalty executions. The prison shown in slide #17 is the Waupun State Prison located in Wisconsin. This prison does not carry-out executions, as Wisconsin does not have the death penalty.
The pictures are ancient, not even digital. What are they doing on Digital Preview ;) site?
LWW: This is fact - without a textual reference to prisons as an accompaniment to the images they would be just pics of lights a long way distant.
Is it a prison or a football field?...
(unknown member): A photographer using the medium of photography to try to convey a message - a bit of a refreshing change from all the gear talk...
"wrongly", Gonard? What, should we allow the criminals roam the streets and commit even more crimes, like African and Latin American countries do?
ThomasSwitzerland: For me as European Kodak still is a brand name as Coca Cola, almost representing that nation. It might be a matter of lacking self-confidence or short term profit greed to outsource to China and no more believing in their own creativity and strengths.
Kodak did break through innovation in sensor and resolution technology. I find it a pity that someone in Asia/China must revive this. But, at least somebody there does it instead of the matter getting lost. On the other hand we got Tesla cars which is an optimistic outlook. And even better if we could get an American product of ground breaking imaging made there.
A groundbreaking imaging product developed in the USA and taking photo market by storm and having more pictures on photo-sharing sites than any other cameras is released every year under the name iPhone #. :)Another one on the rise in Silicon Valley is Woodman Labs, but you might have heard of their camera brand - GoPro. :)
Andreas Stuebs: So what if they have bought the name? I can think of several cases where one company bought out another only to get the name and the market presence. There was very little left of the camera business of Kodak. As others have written – if they manage to sell reasonable cameras at an attractive price – why not. Micro4/3 is a good size for cameras. Perhaps these cameras will be tested and reviewed some time?
I bet they did not buy the name, they licensed it, and probably just for a few years. If they attain some level of success with it, the licensing company will jack up the price.
The Jacal: I don't understand all the hate for this cam. If it is priced correctly, it will sell well to the target audience, i.e not most of the folk here. Though I think the flash should've been built in to appeal to the masses more.
If it raises awareness of the format, it can only be good for all of us.
 Everything Marty4650 said below, too.
The flash is not built-in on Olympus E-PL6 on which is camera is apparently based (or should I say - "which it is inside"), so it would require a significant redesign, beyond just a body shape, to change anything.
Joe Ogiba: The Kodak brand should do well at Walgreens , CVS etc were clueless consumers shop.
Actually, ANY brand is appreciated only by clueless people. The few who are not clueless buy stuff according to its performance, not its brand.
All the better to them. I am sure they will be able to kick the prices on their downward spiral even faster.Hint: it is not so much the cameras, it is lenses which are especially overpriced. Cheap and fast tele zoom will be appreciated on all systems, even if it vignettes on APS-C. ;)
Can you imagine what it takes to overthrow a modern police state, with modern equipment, modern propaganda machines and modern surveillance? And Ukraine is not some banana republic, at some point the government knew every name of every protester by simply tracking their phones... And THAT what it was done with?
badi: Well... even if i don't really plan to buy it, i was very excited about this camera.... sounds like really nice features, excellent lens.... reasonable bulk...But if i were to buy a camera NOW i think the price is kind of wrong.If you don't find it expensive you can put some more hundreds and you get the A7 + kit lens. If you do, you get an a6000 with kit lens for a few hundreds less ... there is the extra reach which is really nice.... so probably that is why everybody says that 8-900$ would be attractive (the same price point as a6000 kit).
x3 crop is 1/9 of resolution. 24mpix/9=2.7 mpix, vs 20mpix in this camera. Do you really think the resolution of 3x crop of FF will match resolution of the full sensor?Maybe it will get close by ISO12800, when noise and noise reduction destroy details on both. But then, with 24-70/4, A7 will be at ISO25600, and with kit 28-70/3.5-5.6, it will be at 51200, having much worse noise again...
ZAnton: That is what I was expecting, when Nikon had announced Nikon 1 cameras. But instead of doing good, bright zoom, they concentrated on expensive and useless slow tele- and standard lenses.
Exactly! Slow zooms of Nikon 1 system don't make any sense compared to fast zooms on cameras with smaller sensors. f/2 3x zooms or f/2.8 superzoom (like the one in RX10) would make the system interesting, and the lenses worth keeping for upgraded bodies.
2eyesee: I'm not sure why a lot of RX10 reviews seem to focus on comparisons with the Panasonic FZ200 and Olympus Stylus 1. I understand that they are all fixed lens cameras, but I think the RX10 is much closer to a DSLR like the Nikon D5300 with 18-140mm (27-210mm equivalent) lens - in terms of price, size, weight and zoom range.
So reviews like this end up rating the RX10 very highly as a super-bridge camera. But when you compare it to D5300 with 18-140mm you find they are pretty comparable - the D5300 with it's slow lens on a large sensor, and the RX10 with it's fast lens on a small sensor.
According to DXOMark the D5300's ISO performance is 1.5 stops better than the RX10. So the D5300 at the wide end at f/3.5 works out 0.8 stops better then the RX10 at f/2.8. At the tele end, where the D5300 will be at f/5.6, the RX10 will be ahead by 0.5 stops.
RX10 is wedged between Stylus 1 and a6000+16-105/4, and the review compares to both. Sony really found the niche which was not filled before (well, even Stylus 1 is in a relatively new niche).Given how many people use just 1 lens with their DSLRs and how many people like superzooms, it should be a productive niche. Just not at that price.
After trashing mindless menu reiterations, the last 2 reviews became much more readable.Now add a proper AF evaluation and your reviews will be great!
Galbertson: Oh, what seems like ideally packed camera...and actually with mic/headphone jacks. It is like they wanted it compared to A7/A7R. But that tiny sensor! My guess if it had a APS-C sensor, the price would be similar to A7.
The A6000 will not have mic jack...what happened to our upgrade of nex7?
Why not just give us all the better functions, as in tilting screen. Tactile DSLRish buttons/controls, HD 60p video, mic and headphone jacks, in a body size of A6000/A7, in APS-C sensor.
Sony why not just give us the camera we want and need, maybe in three models....RX100R(with all above functions).A6000R/A7000(with all above functions).A7/A7R.
Just get it over with, don't dribble out models. Of course realize this is simply the world of marketing in modern technologies.
If they used APS-C sensor and f/2.8 24-200mm-equivalent lens, it would weigh a ton and look like a bazooka.
Franka T.L.: Personally I am looking forward to the NX-Mini with that 17mm fast standard , if I were to shoot mostly wide the RX100-II might be the one to had, but then why don't I just get the Ricoh GR or Nikon Coolpix A instead.
The RX10 is a rather nice piece of ware , pity Sony spoil the fun with that under par Video. Hey Sony is telling us that we can have 4K inside the smartphone ( that do a zillion of stuff ) and yet a more pricey and dedicated platform like the RX10 don't !!
"The RX10 is a rather nice piece of ware , pity Sony spoil the fun with that under par Video."
Huh? DPR just wrote that it is the best video they have ever seen.
h2k: As for m43, there are now several standard zooms starting at 12 mm (24 mm equiv.), so it remains to be seen how attractive this new offering is for m43ers.
Oly 12/2 is more expensive ($800 MSRP vs $400 for Samyang, although from time to time you can buy it with a camera for $600, including now), but it is also much smaller, lighter, has autofocus and electronics for automatic in-camera corrections of distortion, vignetting and on the latest cameras also CA).If it were available for $600 without a camera, this Samyang would not have a chance... Well, on ebay used Oly 12mm go for as low as $467. This Samyand does not have chance. Maybe for poorer systems, but not for m43.
mitch72: Can i know when will be available in US? Thank you!
B&H promises both 10/2.8 and 12/2 next Tuesday.
rudis: bhphotovideo has both.12/2.0 Rokinon/Samyang for 400$and10/2.8 Rokinon/Samyang for 530$
10/2.8 is too heavy. :(
What about news about their 10/2.8, 24/1.4 and 35/1.4 for m43?Also, do any of them have electronics (for EXIF and IBIS to work automatically)?