Tee1up: $400...with a lens. Amazing. I can't wait for the deep review.
""$400... with a lens"
This is about how much right now *with a lens* cost: Panny G5, Nikon D3200 and Canon 1100D."
Wrong. Nikon D3200 with 18-55 costs $545 new. Canon SL1 with 18-55 costs $650 new (for true idiots I guess).1100d (T3) is an ancient junk - do they still make them new? Can get it for $433 though.
mosc: I have an honest question. Do people really think this camera would be better off at say $800 with a 2.3M OLED sony viewfinder, 921k Rear LCD, and RX100/RX1 like menu system? It would have the same mount and same image sensor. Are those changes worth doubling the price? I think sony nailed this. People want APS-C, ILC, a viewfinder, and a professional looking grip for as cheap as possible. Canon's made a killing meeting that spec list.
I bet we will see a few more A-mount APS-C cameras before Sony will finally give up competing with Rebels without cost advantages of mirrorless. So a7000 will not be a replacement if released within a year. But first Sony should make a good OSPDAF.
Dimit: Predictions:1. Will definately be a best seller2. E-mount gear will definately benefit in general3. DSLR crap,irrespective apsc or m43 (G.. Pana,d3...Nikon,Rebels..Canon) will be substantially cheaper within the next 2-3 months4. Upgrades will follow for sure,a lot of variables can be easily optimised5. IQ similar to sony apsc brothers.In fact the luck of physical controls doesn't prevent that6. If there would be a dpr review which would normally get 75,will eventually get 80 due to the price issue!!7. Nobody is going to use it with other than the kit lens..no need!!Decoding all,merely 300,comments above:80% of them seem to like the idea of this cost/efficiency efford.It tells something,doesn't it?
Actually, somebody will try to use it with 55-210.
SDF: The question is will you get the Sony's APS-C sensor a3000 with lens for $400 or wait for rumor Olympus' m4/3 EM-1 $1500 body only?
Will see. If it can do 9 fps+ with tracking with 4/3 35-100/2, 150/2, 90-250/2.8, 300/2.8 it will be great for pros and sports shooting, beating any APS-C system in quality (and price of the lenses) and providing a viable alternative to FF pro systems (1Dx/D4) at half the price and weight (as a total with lenses).If it cannot do the tracking, or just 4 fps, say, it is overpriced and dead in the water.
CFynn, absolutely agree with you. Expect a5000 and a7000 soon. :)
Adrian Van: Decent value for the money with very good sensor IQ. However the limitations of the features, low end screen, and plastic body, would not appeal to me in the long run and I would likely end up selling, or wanting a Rebel or Panasonic G6 or another m43 for better screen. But then again, I am not target audience. The next model up with some improved features may interest me.
Good start though, Sony. I did not like the small bodies of early NEX cameras compared to first kit lenses, although Nex7 was better in size and Nex 6 with retractable lens is good too. I do like the grip on this new Sony camera better than the small one on SL1 by Canon which I tried in store. Based on price, it should sell well to consumers or some prosumers.
Rebel or Pana G are no different and also mostly plastic.
I bet the cost of extra pixels in EVF panel or display panels of the same size is absolutely negligible. Especially given that Sony itself makes them. It is not like somebody makes them pixel by pixel. In this case they probably need to load some ancient production lines left after sales of $80 cameras with the same screen went south.
The rumored E-M1 is a pro sports camera (according to the rumored specs), a3000 is anything BUT pro or sports.
@DPR: the spec says "ISO 100-16000 selectable in 1 EV steps" - but it is impossible to select ISO 16000 in 1 EV steps from ISO 100.
mpgxsvcd: If everyone thought margins were thin before. Wait a couple of months when everyone else has to drastically cut their prices to keep up with Sony.
On m43s margins are huge. Especially on non-kit lenses. They could have cornered the market if they were not that greedy from get go.
I wonder if a firmware hack can enable much faster sequential shooting. I am sure the hardware is there.
MirosIav: This is not the first time someone made a cheap mirrorless camera that looks like a DSLR. Anyone remembers Panasonic G10? But this is the first one with IBIS, although it's not quite clear how it works. I wish Sony better luck than Panasonic had with the G10...
It does not have IBIS.
halfwaythere: 200k dot EVF and 230k LCD screen. Thats low even for 400$.
Who said the EVF is 200k? Rumors were about 1.4M.
westcoastmatt: Sorry for the naiveté but why did they go with E-mount on this instead of A-mount?
Size, weight, cost - especially a lens like the kit E 18-55 could be cheap to make - it has no retrofocus at all (starting from FL equal to their flange distance) and can employ software corrections which are part of the E-mount spec. Of course even with that simple task, Sony managed to create an extremely junky lens, and not even that small.
How can they sell it for $400 with lens, with EVF and better battery life from the same battery, when NEX-5T is $700 with lens? Price war has begun, finally the mirrorless tech takes advantage of its lower production cost.Only big thing is the stunted sequential performance.
Nathebeach: I am curious if and how comments have contributed to improvements in dpreview and even in product manufacturing.
They provided much needed money (=clicks) for DPR.
Peiasdf: Comment section is a necessity if you don't want dictorship. If you didn't read the comment section on yesterday's New York Times headline "Confident Syria Used Chemicals, U.S. Mulls Action", you would think most American support Obama's action. Reading the comments and you'd find about 80~90% of American are against another war and raise question about the narrative of the article. NYTimes' comment already needs to be approved before appearing (70% of mine sensored) but if you take that away, it would just be official government mouthpiece.
" it would just be official government mouthpiece"
It would not be government mounthpiece, it would be (and is) a private propaganda machine, just like other "news" outlets. If Military-Industrial Complex wants more profits, they use them, quite effectively.
Mattoid: If you are going to delete 'trolling' comments then you are against free speech and you may as well not have comments.
A good troll causes a flurry of responses, with people checking out later to see the progress and respond to the responses. An active community of talented trolls is a great asset of any ad-supported website and should be cherished as they ;) are money makers.
D1N0: The main problem is anonymity. If you know your mother might also be reading the comments you make, or your employer or your wife/girlfriend, then maybe you would behave a little better. Anonymous names and Avatars make it possible to turn internet reaction pages into an outlet for all kinds of crap. The interaction between commenters only enhances that.
I'd rather see what people really think than all the PC nonsense.
Joe Talks Photo Gear: I would to see fewer characters available for commenting. Maybe 100. Like, get to the point and don't beat us over the head with your superior knowledge, negativism, trolling, attacks or/boorish behavior. Do that. Thanks.
Just stop reading after 100 characters. Simple.