peevee1: DPR, are you going to fix your tests (or is it widget?) anytime soon? Why at ISO12,800, daylight RAW A7 and A7r are showing f/5.6 1/6400s while D610 shows f/5.6 1/4000s? And 25,600 is 1/8000 at the same f/5.6, far from 1 stop difference in exposure?
How about just use the same manual settings everywhere? We will see the differences in image brightness ourselves. The differences hidden behind the i button are just confusing and frankly make your whole database useless. If I want shooting at 1/1000s to stop motion and f/5.6 for DoF, what I will get is what I will get. Don't try to adjust it for me.
peevee1: How long before Nikon breaks compatibility again?
Nikon does not own anybody but its creditors anything. But hurting your users (and that is what they have done - more than once) is not good for business. Just like they have just done with firmware update making all 3rd party batteries non-functioning. Seems like a conscious policy to me.
How long before Nikon breaks compatibility again?
DPR, are you going to fix your tests (or is it widget?) anytime soon? Why at ISO12,800, daylight RAW A7 and A7r are showing f/5.6 1/6400s while D610 shows f/5.6 1/4000s? And 25,600 is 1/8000 at the same f/5.6, far from 1 stop difference in exposure?
DPR, are you going to fix your tests (or is it widget?) anytime soon? Why at ISO12,800, daylight RAW A7 and A7r are showing f/5.6 1/6400s while D610 shows f/5.6 1/4000s?
HappyVan: BTW, looking for a small camera?
The little known Nikon S1 (similar size and weight) is selling for $299. The lens isn't IS unfortunately.
However, it does allow the use of F-mount lenses with an adapter.
Right, and with F-mount lenses and adapter it is huge, and IQ is well below m43.
Nukunukoo: $1.5K? It barely performs better than my 50mm 1.4G! Hey Nikon, got Sigma blinders on?
The contrast in real world subjects, like humans, is much lower. The kind of contrast a black-and-white focusing target provides does not even exist in real world.
Marcos Villaroman: Nikon can do whatever it wants with its lens to camera interfaces. The incompatibility might be driven by something other than deliberate sabotage of 3rd party lens. There's plenty of reasons why the D5300 is slightly different from other bodies, starting with slight changes in components.
Point is, Nikon doesn't have to waste resources to confirm whatever they do to their firmware remains compatible with Sigma's products.
It is Sigma who has to make sure it maintains compatibility moving forward. Sigma seems to be doing that with reprogram-ability capabilities of their newer lens.
Both Nikon and Canon makes a lot of money selling old lens designs and providing certain levels of consistent service throughout the lifetime of their products. If we don't like to live with it, we could go to micro-4/3rds that have an open standards, Sony, etc. Personally, I don't Nikon or Canon sucks enough to force a system change --- yet.
"Nikon can do whatever it wants with its lens to camera interfaces"
True, and we can do whatever we want with our money.
Saying that Nikon is not under obligation to maintain compatibility with 3rd party products is beside the point. Yes, they are not. In the same way as Microsoft is not under obligation to maintain compatibility with 3rd-party applications when they release a new version of Windows. They are not "under obligation" (hell, they are not under obligation to even stay in business), but breaking compatibility hurts their customers and reduces value of their own product (D5300 in that case) - and hurting your own customers is not a great way to stay in business.
That is one piece of information for those who think that Nikon and Canon has large lens systems when talking about their APS-C lines. No they do not, native systems are pretty poor. And 3rd party is not much help because camera firmwares do not support them, do not autocorrect vignetting, situation, CA, and might not even focus right and break compatibility at any time.Do they have good systems? Yes, for FF. Can you use the lenses on APS-C? Kind of - at the wrong angles (like superexpensive UWA zooms are not UWA anymore), at the wrong sharpness profile (most FF lenses are not sharp enough in the center for higher pixel density of APS-C), at the wrong size, weight and cost.Compare to m43, which is a standard - nobody has to reverse-engineer it, everything just works, and the system is much bigger than Nikon DX or Canon EF-S already, and all the lenses are of right size and weight, although not all have right price. ;)
offtheback: Now I'm waiting for a newspaper issue with no text and no photos.Wait wait....I have one already.
Few noticed because few read papers.
Oleg Vinokurov: Handled today those cameras with kit lens, fits really niceselly in hand. Good evf, rather quick camera. Not that expensive either. But lack of lenses and almost definitely will have problems with uwa, is big turn-off. Shutter sound is big too, could hear really well in noisy Yodobashi camera store.
If your main focal length is wide to short telephoto, most likely you will like this camera a lot. Anyway, Sony created something rather interesting. Though I'm still leaning towards e-m1 12-40mm combo.
yabokkie, short flange and wide aperture means the angles of light falling on a big sensor are extreme. For non-BSI sensor it means corner vignetting, for a sensor with color filter it also means color shift and smearing. These are both.
Looks like the cameras, especially A7, were rushed to market for holiday season with very imperfect firmware. I wonder if Sony will finally find in themselves updating the firmwares properly (they rarely go beyond basic bug fixes).
Yeah, it is not Sigma...
(note how the meaning of that phrase have reversed over the last year)
disraeli demon: "Olympus PEN Lite E-PL6"
Is there something you've not been telling us DPReview? :-)
They have been. Japanese-only model, the same as E-PL5 but with WiFi. Released last winter.
Support for E-PL6 only 10 months late.
The same battery used in Df - probably found the bug testing it.
Piggy the bad: I thought what a great camera Olympus had made when I got my xz-1. Now the lens unit has appeared on the Pentax mx-1 & now the Casio I have to wonder did olympus make any of the xz-1 ? I suspect all three come out of the same factory. Now olympus have launched the stylus 1 how long before the 28-300 lens unit appears on other makes ?
ZX-1 was more than a year before MX-1, and 2 years before this thing. Pretty sure it is an Oly design - they are just trying to get as much as possible out of it. It is a way to sell Olympus to Ricoh and Casio fans, as few as they are. ;-)
XZ-2 strikes again. ;-)
Olympus is really selling its compact camera IP to anybody who asks. Well, probably last chance to make some money off the dying market.
But Casio could be better off joining m43 instead.