acidic: Sounds really awesome, but $30K is totally overpriced.
I paid a few hundred bucks for my phone, which captures 1080 HD with no problems whatsoever. And why do I need more than that? My TV, is coincidentally, also 1080 HD. Now excuse me while I go make some awesome cat videos.
Oh, did I mention that my phone also has a GPS, 3G, Wifi, Bluetooth, and can play Angry Birds? It can also make phone calls. Well sort of. What can this overpriced "uni-tasker" do? Yeah, I thought so.
They will sell so few of them that even at that price it will take years before they pay for their fixed costs.
peevee1: So, does it increase the shooting speed or not? Did you test it?
VadymA: At first I thought ILC body would make much more sense with this camera. But then people would demand better speed, low light, faster lens, AF, etc, etc. Sigma probably realize that they are not able to deliver all of that (at least now) and prefer to stick with the niche market for landscapers. Still kudos to Sigma from me for keeping Foveon alive. Hard to believe they are making any profit on it though but at least Foveon makes photography "landscape" more interesting...
Sigma is already a member of 4/3 standard, and has a couple lenses for m43 system, they could make a m43 camera.
Fixed lens with fixed focal length... practically useless. And for $1000????
So, does it increase the shooting speed or not? Did you test it?
peevee1: DPR stuff need some reality check, go out and actually talk to real people and see what they want from their cameras, and not to the tiny slice of "enthusiasts" and permanent camera reviewers. If they do, they will find that something like 80% of buyers of APS-C DSLRs and mirrorless buy it with a kit zoom and never take it off, because just 2 months ago it was the only way you can get good low-light IQ and performance (BTW, they don't care about RAW and shoot at Auto too). And now all that huge segment, MOST OF THE MARKET, was single-handedly invalidated because RX100 at f/1.8 suddenly matches (or beats in case of Canons) all those slow kits at f/3.5. If DPR cannot see the revolution here, they must be blind. If they were not blind, they should have introduced Platinum Award just for RX100.
"can't use that F1.8 outdoors because it has a maximum shutter speed of 1/2000 and a base ISO of 125"
If amount of light pushes your shutter speed beyond 1/2000, you don't need f/1.8 on 1" to get good IQ - any modern P&S or phone camera would do acceptably well. It is low light when people get color blotches on their pictures or their P&S refuses to focus at all, then people get frustrating and go and buy heavy, large and expensive DSLRs with their kits.Are you going to tell me than when your friend in that situation asks you for an advice what to buy having reasonable performance in a restaurant or a museum, you will recommend $1000 T4i with 18-55 over $650 RX100? Really? Honestly?
"The point is that the RX100 isn't an F1.8 camera"
Neither are kit zooms f/3.5 lenses. Most go to 84 mm at f/5.6 and don't go to 100 mm eq at all. And if some do, like Oly 12-50, it is there at unusable f/6.3.
BTW, low-light ability is most useful at short focal lengths.1) We as people don't see far in the dark, and we cannot shoot what we don't see2) When we shoot far objects in dark, it is for panoramas/landscapes etc, and those are shot at wide end.
Sorry for bringing a little of reality.
All while DxOMark site is dead for a month...
ET2: From IR (imaging-resource) preview,
"Fast Hybrid AF requires a compatible lens, and firmware updates will expand support to existing models, says Sony. If not supported, the NEX-5R uses contrast detection alone.
"At launch, only the SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL18200LE, and SEL24F18Z models will be compatible with the faster autofocus system; support should be expanded over time through firmware updates, but it isn't yet clear if this will eventually encompass all Sony's E-mount lens models or not."
I don't think that info was present in DPR's preview
What about non-Sony's "E-mount lens models"? So Sigmas and Tamrons will never get the PDAF advantage?
mpgxsvcd: What I want is a Panasonic GH3, with Android, 4G, Bluetooth support, and a really big battery. Then I could get rid of my phone and just carry my camera.
I can imagine you walking on a street talking to your 2lbs camera/lens combination (plus a few for "a really big battery"). Surely a lot of pictures will be made. Of you. On iPhones.
Baxter Bad: In the U.S., all our carriers are spawns of Satan. The last thing I want is to deal with another of their "packages" just to share better photos than I can take with my phone. Please, Samsung - a WiFi-only option.
Without carrier subsidies it will probably be $700. Almost nobody will buy it at that price.
"Interestingly though, although the screen size is similar, the display on the back of the Galaxy Camera is an LCD unit, not the gorgeous AMOLED used in the Galaxy SIII. "
LCDs are usually able to produce higher maximum brightness, which is important when using outdoors without a VF.
The usual "best in class" is a new camera beating the previous best in the class by 1/3 stop of IQ. 1 whole stop of advantage deserves Gold Award already, being an enormous technological leap. RX100 beats Canon S100 (the previous best you can get in small-and-light pocket cam) by 2 (two!) whole stops (and previous Gold winner XZ-1 too, although that one is not really pocketable, just like LX5/7, EX1/2)! Surely it deserves BETTER than Gold.
DPR stuff need some reality check, go out and actually talk to real people and see what they want from their cameras, and not to the tiny slice of "enthusiasts" and permanent camera reviewers. If they do, they will find that something like 80% of buyers of APS-C DSLRs and mirrorless buy it with a kit zoom and never take it off, because just 2 months ago it was the only way you can get good low-light IQ and performance (BTW, they don't care about RAW and shoot at Auto too). And now all that huge segment, MOST OF THE MARKET, was single-handedly invalidated because RX100 at f/1.8 suddenly matches (or beats in case of Canons) all those slow kits at f/3.5. If DPR cannot see the revolution here, they must be blind. If they were not blind, they should have introduced Platinum Award just for RX100.
mpgxsvcd: "Samsung has announced the Galaxy Camera, a 16MP BSI CMOS compact superzoom/Android smartphone hybrid"
That statement makes it sound like this is a phone as well which I don't believe it is.
Install Skype on it.
Thumbs up for Jelly Bean! Even most Samsung smartphones do not support it yet.
The most significant here is not WiFi (old news) or "Apps" (just optional firmware features which should be standard) - it is tracking AF at 10fps on a mirrorless camera. If it really works, the kinds of 7D have a really big problem...
jeerzz: 99 phase-detection points!!!
are those all cross-type?
Probably actual POINTS. ;)
I wonder if those proprietary "Apps" are just firmware features which used to be free and now will be charged for?
Craig Atkinson: charged. Playing with it now. First thoughts, very 'electronic' like the OMD. Very fast, very good. Not very organic feeling like the X100 or Ricohs. NO WAY of turning the screen off, big shame. DMF mode stops the annoying continuous focussing but stops the control ring being used for A.No charger - a bit of a downside. Actually, pretty annoying. It's too small, an extra inch wide and a grip [grd4 style] would really make this a beast. Shoot button and zoom lever are v plasticy and wobbly. Image quality is fantastic. Compared to X100 there is little / no difference unless peeping, and even then not so much. I love what this camera does but I don't like the camera, if that makes sense?
"an extra inch wide and a grip [grd4 style] would really make this a beast"
...which will not fit into a jeans or shirt pocket. There are a million cameras not fitting into pockets shooting as good or better as RX100.