IMO This kind of product is at the fringe of what DPReview should be about. Interesting, but not really so relevant for us still photography people. Still inspiring to see what the motion picture industry is up to (and somewhat flattering to think we're somehow involved in their business). :P
Not that I'm a pro.. but Camera A is sooo much better than Camera B. It's in the colors you see... and since I'm an optics expert as well as an engineering professor subspecializing in signal to noise ratio, I can tell that Manufacturer A has succeeding in overstepping the bounds of quantum physics with their sensor. Manufacturer B makes lousy, soft lenses btw. Camera A will definately aid in good technique taking a blur-free shot, inspire me with a sense of what shots will sell, and give me the foresight to preparemyself for the right moment. I love Camera A.I'm totally impartial because I own a camera made by Manufacturer B:P
Olgierd: Got mine 5D3 Thursday. Upgraded from 5D2. After weekend I can say I love it. Has it better quality at low ISO than 5d2 - No. Has it better quality at ISO3200 and higher - Yes.But there's more then this. AF is simply stunning. Add silent shooting, more than 3 frames in AEB, HDR, really good overall handling and many other features. Trumps 1DS3 and still at half of its initial price. I guess I sound like another happy Canon customer. But I truly am.I don't consider Nikon (too many EF lenses since my first Canon EOS 300D). And for those Canon folks who are not sure if 5D3 is worth buying, I strongly suggest to find one in local store and simply try it.
Could you elaborate on how it trumps the 1Ds3? It sounds like IQ at higher ISO's and AF (with some bonuses like silent shooting, LCD elc). How's the weather-sealing for instance?
Olgierd: Got mine 5d3 yesterday. Sold 5d2 - not looking back. Aftre just few hours I'm one happy customer. Better ISO (12800 perfectly usable, 25k OK).Fast focus in poor light, greatly improved auto WB (at least in fluorescent/CFL light). HDR, 3/5/7 frames in AEB. IMHO better deal than 1dS3. Not comparing to Nikon because of I own qite few EF lenses.Single thing that hurts - no luck with PocketWizard Flex/TT5 combo.Will spend more time today trying to get them to work (at least as basic triggers). For now unfortunatelly no AC9 + zone controller + AlienBees option.
Olgierd: Thanks for that. I look forward to hearing from you then:)
lensberg: These sample images are truly impressive... outstanding levels of detail across the board at virtually every ISO setting... Comparing these 5D III images to the recently released "real world" D800 samples is like comparing flawless diamonds to cubic zirconium...
And people try to insinuate that the D800 has better detail retention & ISO performance at reduced resolutions... yeah right... dream another dream... because this one's not materialising into reality...
The 5D III's colour reproduction is spectacular... far superior to even the Nikon D3X or Pentax 645D... the dynamic range is at least 2½ stops better than the 5D II... and the ISO performance... is second to none... minimum 1½ stops better than the D800... and comparable with the D3S uptil 12800... and blows it away from 25600 onwards...
This is basically a no contest as far as overall IQ is concerned... the Canon 5D III wins hands down...
That guy on DigitalRev is not someone whose opinion I regard very highly at all... just saying
SDhar: I think I am going to have to wait till a proper hands on review comes along.
I just downloaded the D800 and 5DMIII ISO 25600 original size shots for comparison. While these may not be the best pictures (see guy's face D800 and night outdoor restaurant shot 5DMIII), there is a LOT OF NOISE in both (1:1 crop). However, at lower ISO (100-12600) both seem stellar. I guess a lot depends on which lens is being used. I am guessing the 5DMIII with any of Canon's TS-E tilt-shift lenses will bring out spectacular center and edge sharpness. Same for D800 with Nikon's fabulous 14-24mm F2.8. For bigger zoom lenses, Canon's 6fps is relatively more handy in sport/wildlife mode.
Darn! I just wish Canon priced the MIII just under $3000.
12600 is not lower iso dude...but re $3000, i couldn't agree more! :)
Out of pure curiousity, have you used a 1-series camera before? I for one am unconvinced that for pure still photography the 5d3 is better overall. I'm open to persuasion though. Bear in mind that I like shooting in rain and snow, would use the otional grip if I had the 5d3 (and hate the inevitable flex it then adds to the body), and tend more towards iso of LESS than 50 instead of the other way....
xml5000: These sample images fail to impress.
My Canon G2 is a match for some of these photos. IMO, DPR should employ a photographer to take future images. Canon, Nikon, Sony etc.. would then have to ensure the quality of their 'new kit' before peddling 'improved' models at us.
While I agree that there's alot of hype involved in th marketing, you need to see your ophthalmologist if you don't see a difference. Urgently.
n1zr: I'm a Canon shooter and necessarily have to stick with their bodies because of my investment in their glass. These pics confirm (when compared to the D800 samples especially) what I believed all along. They're both great tools, and it's the eye (and brain) behind the lens that matter most. There's megapixels-a-plenty to go around people. Enjoy the next generation of cameras! (and long-live the healthy rivalry)... Now drop the prices of those 1Ds3's!!!
Why go through the trouble? My lenses are awesome, and honestly, the differences between bodies at this level is minimal. My biggest concern for my previous body was the technology used in the batteries (NiMH). My last 1DsM2 was intuitive to use and I loved the durability.
I'm a Canon shooter and necessarily have to stick with their bodies because of my investment in their glass. These pics confirm (when compared to the D800 samples especially) what I believed all along. They're both great tools, and it's the eye (and brain) behind the lens that matter most. There's megapixels-a-plenty to go around people. Enjoy the next generation of cameras! (and long-live the healthy rivalry)... Now drop the prices of those 1Ds3's!!!