Damien Demolder: For me, the more exciting bit is having 1/16,000sec silent shutter for stills.
If it would be 12 bit, yes. But this is 10 bit so while very usefull it comes at a cost with restricted dynamic range. Something that is ausefull thing on bright sunny days. Precisely when that fast shutter is needed too...
J Parker: To say this camera merely competes with the best out there is an understatement. DPReview could create a new award beyond gold -- platinum -- and this camera would be a deserving first recipient. Even if this camera is not for you, cameras this innovative literally force the other camera companies to become better -- or get left behind -- and we all benefit. Thank you Samsung for having the audacity to bring to the market a truly phenomenal creative tool.
I don't think there is much innovation actually. There is little new. Not the first 4k, not the first BSI in a sensor, not the first PDAFOS (that is that good). To be honest: nothing is innovative here. The thing with this camera is that every single aspect is done to (almost) perfection!
As a m43 user, the size of the lenses (the fast ones) is what is a no go for me. The Samsung barely gets us any size and weight advantage. Also: while the Samsung has the better IQ especially, I am happy with current mFT IQ and can wait for better IQ. Seems the new Sony 4/3 sensor have APCS tech which should be a nice step up.
AbrasiveReducer: Samsung has come such a long way in a short time. And like Canon, they are too big to fail so they can stay in, no matter what. They can also afford to give stuff away, if they think it will help. Not that long ago, most people with a name brand TV had a Sony.
Sorry, they were here in 2010 just a year or so after mFTs. They have come a long way in a long time for an MILC. Before NX1 all NX cams were just never in the same ballpark of the competition. They did a very nice job this time though!
Stanny1: $1500 for a 21mm equivalent means that 4/3 is not the way to go for wide-angle. I didn't spend half that for my NEX-3 AND the wide-angle adapter that gets me down to 18mm. How much would it cost to go to 17mm? Is it possible with the small sensor cameras? I wonder how much a wide-angle lens would be for new little Nikons with the smaller than 4/3 sensor? Size does matter!
How good the 7-14 f4 is can be seen here:As can be read here:http://slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1252
Is there a NEX lens 9E-lens) that performs as well.
D135ima: The pursuit of a large aperture on micro 4/3 looks strange
This is sensorrelated?
There is a 14 mm equiv. Panasonic, may be you did not notice it. it is a 1000 dollar. A very good performer, but sensitive to flaring. I don't think your NEX with that adapter will get the same, very good IQ.For about 550 dollar there is the 9-18 mm (18-36 mm equiv) Oly lens. Still good. At that price it seems to be cheaper than your NEX3 + adapter.
mpgxsvcd: I have to say that the GF7 looks outstanding for its sensor size at ISO 6400. Compare it to the E-M5 MK II. I actually think the GF7 handles the noise better in RAW images at ISO 6400 than the E-M5 MK II does.
Well I see a clear advantage of the GF7 over the Em5 MK at higher ISO. And I looked at the GH4 too and the GF7 is better than my GH4.
Just look in lightbulb mode at the green thingy + brown leaves in the lower left corner. I think a notbale difference! GF7 together with GM5 seems to be the best mFT sensors around! The same as in GH4, but Panny ahs tweaked them better it seems.
My experience with the Gh4 compared to the EPL5 too: the GH4 simply looks better. Not much but still...
rockjano: Now the nice thing is that not just the D7200 is very good but the MUCH cheaper D5500-5300 and D3300 has just as good low light capabilities. The Sony/Toshiba sensors and how Nikon use them are just great!!!!
At least Nikon understand that a camera and how good or bad it is, is not dependant on a sensor (only). SOme people over here seem to think so....
justmeMN: "The Nikon D5500 is as close to a 'pocketable' DSLR as you'll find. While it's a bit larger than the Canon EOS Rebel SL1 (100D), you can slip the D5500 into a small bag if you're using a compact lens." -DPR
Neither a D5500/SL1 nor a mirrorless camera will fit in my jeans pocket, so they are equally convenient/inconvenient. In both cases, you are using a small camera bag.
So frankly there is not difference at all. Once you cannot fit in yuor jeans it is all the same...a 500 mm f1 lens or a 500 mm f8....one weighing 20 kilo the other a pound...all the same...right..
bobn2: I'm interested by you comment on the lab test, p8. - '*We originally shot the scene with the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art as part of an attempt to introduce that lens as the standard across systems, but we ran into an issue whereby images from the D5500 were coming out noticeably noisier than the D5300. We found that at f/5.6 the native Nikon 50mm was giving consistent exposures shot-to-shot, while the Sigma was underexposing and yielding somewhat inconsistent exposures. Further testing is required and we'll keep looking into it.'.
Does that mean that the Sigma is not actually setting the f-stop that has been set?
May be different t-stops.
zodiacfml: Awesome DR at base ISO found in DXO. Though the NX1 is even better, the price is out of reach for many. I also appreciate they have reduced the weight so much that it weighs less than a d3300. More than a decade ago, Japanese were trying to reduce fuel consumption even though fuel prices were affordable or few was asking for it.
That battery life is something too for something like a day of travel as a tourist.
NX1 is not reviewed at DxO so you cannot compare...
Jorginho: Nx1 review...just wonder if we will see it after the nikkn v4 review somewhere in november...
@techno....Well i don't think it is reasonable to expect users to go to such lengths to obtain a good result. Nice to see younare enjoying the cam so much more than the nx300 btw and good for you to stick with sammy!
I disagree with fw getting ghings stalled. If I reviewed a final model that is sold that way in the shops then it is okey. A company that brings a cam to market with substantial fw updates shortly afterwards simply did not put a final product to the market and that is their problem. As if everyone is aware of such a fw update or even knows this is common with cams these days. So to mymind, if a brand comes up with a cam and fw 1.0 than it is okey to review it. If the results are subpar, next time that brand should do better.
Nx1 review...just wonder if we will see it after the nikkn v4 review somewhere in november...
tkbslc: If I shot Nikon 1 already, I'd be excited about this. If I did not already shoot Nikon 1, I don't see why I'd pick this over a Panasonic Gm1 or GM5 if I wanted a tiny ILC with a retro look.
Well.....each and every nikon sensor has had virtually the same score. The g1 in2008 has the same iq as the current nikons. Then came the gh2 sensor, which scored substantially better. In2012 came the sony m43 doing a lot better still. In 2014 the gh4 came which was a bit better still.The gap between m43 and the nikon 1 is at its widest currently. Also that difference is much bigger than we would expect from sensorsize. So this sensor indeed needs to do a lot better and it is quire possible but we need a thorough review to assess it.
Stanny1: 2.7 crop factor? Widest lens gives 27mm? I'm so glad I own a Sony NEX-3 with real 18mm capability. Go APS-C or you don't have a serious mirrorless. Only a real amateur with too much money will buy this Nikon.
mFT gives real 14mm..Forgot about that?
5inchfloppy: It's exactly the same size as the Panny GM-1, so I guess that's the market Nikon is targeting.
This plus the Nikkor 18.5/1.8 seems fantastic. Consider me intrigued. Yes, I can achieve the same with GM-1/5 with Oly 25mm or PL 25mm, but this will still be smaller and have accurate PDAF.
This is what the Pentax Q series could have been methinks.
More accurate than m43? I don't think so. Also GM5 has an EVF this cam, in my view, badly lacks. Also GM5 has DFD which works well for C-AF. So I see it differently: Nikon1 should offer a clear size advantage and it can. It does so with the 70-300 btw. But not so with other lenses.
The point is that a m43 of course can achieve what a 18,5mm f1.8 Nikon1 can, a 25 mm f1.4 or 42,5 mm f1.7 gives you (much) shallower DOF. SO itachieves more than the 1.I am not saying it is better or worse, depends on your use.
But the main thing is that sensor. I hope this is a sensor made by Sony or at least on par to it. Cause with it, the Nikon1 series really becomes viable and has great base ISO IQ. Currently i think it is lacking too much.
Boissez: I'm sorry but this list is seriously outdated. Where's the Samsung S6, Note 4, the Lenovo Vibeshot and the Panasonic CM1?
Indeed I am baffled.....where is the CM1? I am not saying it is the best out there as a cam per se but surely has the best IQ?
0,5 pnts given...pathetic...so this somehow deserves the lowest score???