fzrTom: One of the best camera slowly disapear : sad news.If the NX1 had been done by Canon, Nikon or Sony, this camera would have been a succes. I really hope that the Sony A7000 would be a clone of the NX1.
Yes, it would have been a smashhit. If Nikon would have come out in 2014 with that cam and some lenses it would be a very very very serious threat to all mirrorless cammakers and I am sure Nikon users would rejoice. It is disheartening to see Samsung leaving, even if I feel zero empathy for the company, I can vividly imagine how I would feel if mFTs would go that way. But inevitably, that will happen one day too...
kpaddler: Similar statement will come from some of the others sooner or later, including Sony....
Sony is the least likely of the "traditional mirrorless camp"to go. First will be Panasonic, then Fuji and then Olympus (or Olympus and then Fuji). That is what I think.
In the Leica part..It is not "Lecia" but "Leica". Typo...
Marty CL: Sounds like Samsung's photographic division really is about to pull the plug.
We need not wait for CES. They already said they abondon european markets (important ones like Germany and The NEtherlands, which comined are over 100 million people). Nothing mentioned at CES will get peoples trust back. If they want to come back, they have turned the clock back to 2010 for them: they can start all over again in a shrinking market.
Most likely thing is that it is simply over and done worldwide. It won't affect their TVs, harddisks, phones etc one bit because NX got no exposure in the first place. It is not like a whole crowd is now lamenting it. Just a few people so it doesn't matter all that much.
Stokis: I was ready to buy NX500 when they announced that it will have 4k video, but later when NX500 tests were taken it was revealed that it can handle 4k only in crop mode. So i bought Panasonic LX100.But if NX500 would be able to shoot 4k with whole sensor it would be a blast.
I don't agree. G7 has 4K mode that even is better than GH4 straight out of the cam! Look at reviews. But Panasonic was so smart to offer GH4 Vlog...I think NX1 has much more strengths than just 4K. How abotu a great EV|F versus none. How about weathersealing versus none/ How about a great buffer vs a far from great buffer.But without an EVF, an NX500 is already no longer comparable at all.
Samsung should have made an NX50 and NX500 about 6 months after NX1. NX50 would be a rival to G7 and get good 4K video just liek that one. And then they could have castrated NX500 with its video since people got a reasonable alternative.
Andrea Georgia: Accidentally, I just saw this DPR article from June 2015, confirming more or less what I wrote below about the US as an expanding market for mirrorless and Europe as a stagnant or contracting one. Samsung certainly act like they want a good share of this American market. That's still no excuse for their behaviour in Europe. That being said, they may not be the last to leave, unless the European market turns around, miraculously.
Andrea, I did not think you defended them. I read your other statements and feel sorry for you as an NX owner what happened. Surely now that finally they really had a groundbreaking cam. But you need to sell volumes to keep the business going in the case of Samsung. The USA market is simply way too small. Also: this news will affect sales throughout the globe negatively. Hence my response: I hoped the rumours of 3 months ago were just that. It is strange to realise about 2 days ago the various decisions in Europe clearly indicate these rumours were very correct. Wonder when the next one is going to shut down...
Andrea...it is simply over. Now that this i soffocial for Europe, you know Samsung is not going sell any better they even will sell worse since a huge part of the market is no longer attended to. To volume will go down further, you cannot make sensors dedicated for this in suc low volumes and make a profit. This is it unless indeed by some miracle they change their initial choice. fat chance for that to happen...
Mike FL: Samsung might still have some life left if Sam joined MFT club years ago rather than did the NX thing.
Now, we do not know if Sam will make NX600 as NX500 is very much under the gun of SONY A6000 and A5100.
SONY can kill NX500 by Black Friday, Cyber Monday if SONY wants to, and if NX500 is still alive after X-Mas, then there is always an after NEW YEARS sale.
Anyway, NX500 is in the hands of SONY now, and Samsung's whole camera business' life is in danger.
SONY is a killer.
It is over. Period. Samsung did not sell well, this news will filter through in magazines in the US etc so even if they continue over there the effect will be negative on a product that never got mainstream in the first place. Sad for the users, sad for the employees working on this project (but won't lose their jobs) but Samsung has got themselves to blame.
technotic: The bigger story here is is this the beginning of the implosion of the photography industry in general? Samsung are a highly profitable company from what I know and could easily sustain some losses in the camera division if they saw a future in this business. Is this sign of things to come?
Yes, I can see that happening too. Samsung is the first but the others aren't safe too in the relative shortterm, that is. Say 3-5 yrs...
Langusta: What a shame...not that I'm a user of fan of this brand, but it's bad news to everyone when an ambitious player quits the race. The competition now gets more movement (no pressure on R&D, more marketing b.s. instead of a genuine progress, "funnier" pricing policies, etc...) and customer gets less options.
Well...competition is good on one hand but when it means companies lose money time and time again I'd rather pay more so the system has a solid future.
Competition is good if it means we get the best camera's out there, so we'll miss that part since NX1 was really a tough competitor.
It is particulary very sad for the users, all those who share the same love for photography but now see their system having no future.
Fantastic score! Great for landscaping I think. Not for sports or other action (well: not that great).
I see a future however for Pentax and most of all Olympus Hires mode.Surely when it is true the latter will soon be so fast it even can be used for action (single shots I guess). Because such a cam can shoot in 20 MP in bursts, 10-15 fps with AF-c. But such a cam can also shoot 50 MP with subpixel accuracy and per pixel colour. At the size of a m43 camera, not a still larger body with especially larger glass.
But that is the future, I know, and this is now. So: good for Sony and thanks for giving all the competitors something to aim for!
Marty4650: No manufacturer would admit to discontinuing a camera because there are "better and more upgraded" models in that market.
Heck, five years AFTER Olympus discontinued Four Thirds, they are still claiming it has NOT been discontinued! They even list a five year old model on their website, and still offer lenses for a system they abandoned.
There is something very wrong with that email.
But as long as Samsung doesn't issue a firm denial, the speculation will continue.
So I can't use 4/3 lenses better than ever before on the EM1, Marty?E-5 was not newly designed in 2011?
Not saying your are completely wrong, 4/3 is discontinued as a pure 4/3 cam system, just try to get your facts straight...
Sure..somewhat translucent and shadows in the wrong direction....
lol101: Indeed... Deafening silence by Samsung...
I'm actually surprised, I thought they would just issue a blanket statement saying that these rumors were unfounded. They do not really have to say anything else, just denying these rumors would suffice.
I'm a long time Samsung user (nx10, nx1000, nx30 and some primes) and am really impressed by the fast evolution of their technology from average quality (nx10) to outstanding (nx1) in very little time.
I'd be sad to see them go. Still looking forward for some good news. Nx50 is due next year if they keep their usual schedule.
Lol101: true, but how about Panasonic? It is largely comprable: the made two DSLRs and that was that.
But most non-Canikon mirrorless makers continued to develop. Sony as a body orientated maker and m43s as a more lens orientated one.
Samsung made some pretty obvious mistakes. They were pointed to these soon when products were relased. But nothing....And it is likely end of the line because of that.
Fast? As compared to what? Not Sony for instance. In the same time (even less) Sony has two mirroless formats going. They have really rapidly learned with NEX7 (in 2011) they did what mFTs should have done. In 2013 they leapfrogged everyone with their A7 series. They also diversified there with A7s. A7 and A7r. IBIS is almost as good as Oly. Rapid!mFTs is far more consistent. By far the most diverse body and lens line-up that is cintinuously being updated. Very good and versatie lens lineup. 4/3 users not left in the cold with the Em1. Panasonic very good at video, excellent with AF and since 2014 CDAF that actually works for action like it shoul;d. Oly with stellar IBIS Etc. Fuji took another, consistent route: classy, different sensor, great glass.Samsung: only NX1 is terrific. So the 4 yrs prior were mostly senseless to me. Small steps and never learned that NX200 and up needed an EVF or add on possibility...They were slow and made crucial mistakes. It could cost them...
IamOUI: Samsung is moving from selling their cameras in stores + online to selling online only. This got mistranslated as "Samsung will no longer be making cameras." Pretty ridiculous.
Sure that is why they do not even seem to bother to respond to dpreview. If it is that simple, why does it take days to respond? I think they are debating what to say and then they will reply. If they won't reply at all....then may be it is better that they stop with it altogether. I have rarely seen a company so lacklustre when it comes to public relations.
Andrea Georgia: I'm utterly baffled, quite honestly, and have to agree with Andre below.
The NX500 beats the a6000 in most of the important aspects: the NX500 has a better sensor, better low light performance, a much better screen, indeed a touch screen, better video: 4K, a better menu, a better quality and largely very affordable native lens selection, a more solid feel and better ergonomics. It's only missing an EVF in comparison, which is not much of a miss as the screen is so excellent. And again, the a6000 has a poor screen and a poor EVF. The Sony was good, but has been superceded by the NX500 - did DPR test it with the latest FW?
I tried out the a6000 many times even before the NX500 was released and never liked the Sony for its hollow plasticy feel, bad menu, horrid EVF and poor quality native lens selection for those who don't want to shell out for overpriced Zeiss glass. I think there is a very significant bias at work here, and also with the reviewer of the NX500, as usual, sadly.
EVF is simply unforgivable. People have used and say in bright sunlight the screen is not usable anymore. If NX500 had a good EVF, it would stand a very good chance but as it is I feel it is punished for a serious lack. So that is deserved.
AngryCorgi: Weird. The NX1 and NX500 are the first Samsung cameras that I thought would be terribly competitive. The only thing holding the NX1, at this point, are a few ergonomic nitpicks and the limitations of the lens offerings. And by limitations, I specifically refer to a lack of options, not to the quality of the existing options. This is a very odd rumor.
Tecno: it is not too competitive. In NL they always had about zero presence. I hear the same things in the UK. Not the smallest markets in the world.
I hope it is all not true. I would like to think that they quit for a year or so (best possible scenario may be), but keep developping good lenses and then re-enter. But the writing is on the wall I fear.What do yoiu think the odds are? 20% chance NX-series remains? 40%? I am curiosu what your mind tells you. Hope the outcome will good for you!
arrr: *Patiently waiting for the firesale. C'mon, baby! Daddy needs a new 4k camera.
LX100 is no NX1. Not at all. I don't even understand such a comparison.It is hugely disappointng if this turns out to be true, unless they indeed have some great new cam up their sleeve.Fingers crossed for the SDamsung users and aspiring Samsung users. We need competition and the latesat Samsung products for sure delivered that!
Mike99999: Samsung's business strategies are suicidal and insane.
@ Eleson: these rumours have been around for many months. And nothing unequivocal as a reply by Samsung yet. Yes in these days that borders on Public Relations Instanity.