sunjester: 1200 bucks seems like a lot for a pen.
I don't understand. It is expensive for what it is as a camera upon release price or as a "Pen" ?I mean, should have they branded it "OMD-F" instead, would have been fine?In the interview, he does state that it's not a EP-5 replacement.
Valentinian: DPREVIEW writes:'the most direct competitors for the PEN-F are probably Sony's a6000 and Fujifilm's just-announced X-E2S - both of which are APS-C format cameras".
The only mention of the GX8 was that the Pen F uses the same sensor of the GX8.
I am biased, I tend to prefer the GX8, tho I suspect I'd be very happy with the Pen-F. But in the comparison department, we have to be honest, the GX-8 is significantly bulkier. And I share the same feeling, it is a direct competitor.
How about one that will prevent selfies? :p
belle100: Judging from the price, they must all be much higher quality. However, I don't understand why it needs to be higher quality than their still counterparts. I mean the resolution of 4K is 4096x2160, which is much lower than those of still image (typical 24MP) required.
Sharpness isn't the biggest deal in cine lenses. It is always important, but never as much as low distorsion, low vignette and low aberration. When the footage pans around, those pops in the eye immediately.Low vignette wide open, that's why those lenses are big and expensive.
MustyMarie: AFAIK, Samyang have not produced an AF or full elec lens for any purpose, so manual all, and adding the gear driven is a good place to specialize in and make big profits, I am sure Indies will like them, or for Drone use as well.
Their 'normal' use lens (ILC, DSLR) seem to be pretty good, not best in class but then better than many name brands also!
a cine lens on a drone?!?
Rick Knepper: The struggle with this decision has generated years of mind-numbing posts regarding format equivalence. Hopefully, 'affordable' FF cameras will put those still in the throes of FFAS out of their misery once and for all. FF is a general purpose format. APS-C is either for the budget conscious or the reach-restricted (another way of saying budget conscious).
I've seen so many sports photographers covering the Canadian olympic swim trials, all carrying huge mono-pod mounted lenses. Not as if any of them couldn't afford a FF if they really needed it, yet the most common format I've seen is APS-C.
majicmoments: Progress is important i know... but i dont need 40 million pixels per image clogging up my i pad... How about achieving 25 iso Olympus?... or graduated filters in camera?..say grey/blue/nd grads.. now that would be a blast!
And it probably will be a feature that can be turned on and off.
RStyga: These announcements in the MF sector reinforce Pentax 645 digital series system as the most user-friendly, cost-friendly and full-featured one by far. Some pros would still pay the insane price of a Phase One (I'm referring to the cost of the matching back not the body or lenses) because of a certain feature they need but for everyone else Pentax 645 digital is the king.
Many medium format shooters, pros like you call them, uses gear they don't own. Rented or owned by the company they work for.To them, the cost of the gear is not an issue.
dmartin92: So it's probably a waste to get 4K if you don't have a 4K television ? That's my question.
One of my friend has no 4K television at his home. Some of his videos have been projected on movie screens, tho. He knows why he wants 4K.
dialstatic: Many (hopefully) sarcastic comments here about how this lens would be a poor choice for an APS-C photo camera like 'it's not f/2.8', but I truly don't understand. Not being a video shooter, I wonder why this lens is so desirable for video. That's not a value judgment by the way: I know next to nothing about video and I'm honestly hoping to learn something here. Is it the incredible range? I would think videographers would use multiple lenses (as in the 7D mk video). What would be a typical use for a huge zoom like this one? And while I understand enough physics to see why they don't make a 50-1000 zoom 2.8, I wonder why this slow (...compared to photo zooms) aperture is apparently unproblematic for video. Can anyone explain?
Broadcast is mentionned and then there is all those optic requirements for cine lenses : extremely low tollerence to vignette, aberration and distorsion
you really don't want to pan through a lanscape following a golf ball with any significant vignette, distortion or aberration, they all show far more than on still images.
Hen3ry: Not interested. No built-in flash.
It has built in EVF and a hot shoe as well as a bundled flash unitThrere is only that much space and that's the compromise they took.Too bad if thats not your cut of tea. I think its a defensible decision.
stevedigiphoto: Really this is not huge! My Oly 70-300 II zoomed to 250mm reaches the 'huge' length of 163mm and at 79mm diameter its only about 5mm larger. For me this looks to be a great addition to lens options for M43 - nice 2.8 aperture, fast focussing, great range, weather sealed and a perfect match for the excellent 12-40.
I hear you, and as a Panasonic shooter, this Olympus piece of glass has got some serious arguments over the excellent X35-100.Neither of these lenses are macro, not by any stretch, but the 70cm minimal focus distance at the tele end of the Olympus is a good 15cm better than that of the Panasonic. Its quite a difference, both on the field and on explaining the size difference.
I actually value that too, as well as the extra reach and to me it outweigh the lack of IS.
Jogger: £549.99 = DOA
Sure, and I recall the same doom and gloom prophecy on the announcement of the PL25...
bluevellet: Pricey on its own, but a fair deal with the GM1.
I still think the Lumix 14mm and the 20mm pancake primes make more sense size-wise on the GM1. This new 15mm prime looks better suited for bigger m43 cameras.
Nice touch with the aperture ring too, more m43 optics should have that feature.
How do you know its pricey? You saw the MTF charts..?
Madaboutpix: Okay, I dig the comments about the 6 aperture blades and the considerable weight. But we're talking a fairly fast metal-barrel f2.8 lens, and as a Pentaxian, I'm pleased to see a third-party manufacturer still bothering to produce K-mount lenses. And much as I love the IQ and the starbursts from my Pentax smc DA 15mm Limited, I must say that with every new lens Samyang is offering in the ultra-wide and fisheye compartments (where non-AF isn't such a big deal), I'm more tempted to give them a try. Especially when I look at their budget prices.
Pentax do have a DA 12-28mm ultra-wide zoom on their roadmap, which may well turn out to be a colaboration with Tokina. I expect that to be a wonderful lens, but I'm not so sure if I will be able to afford it without breaking the bank. Therfore, keep on, Samyang!
Hyperfocal distance is short for 10mm angle on APS-C, but when critical focus is needed, AF actually is a very big deal on wide angles.
Tomee21: But why 15mm? Why not 12? Or at least 14? Those would make more sense to me than a 30mm equivalent.
Its meant as a tool to take pictures, not specs. On a field review, you ought not to be bothered that its 15mm and not 14mm.
Mirrorless Crusader: They already have a 14mm f/2.5 why are they making a 15mm f/1.7? A 12mm f/2.8 that's cheaper than Oly's 12/2 would have been better.
Olympus also have two 17mm, none of which is being an alternative product for the other.
Jogger: Prob $1000 going by the other "Leica" lenses for m43.
Last time I checked
PL 1.4/25 : $600PL 2.8/45 : $800PL 1.2/42.5 : don't know yet
If its the case, kudos to Olympus for seeing the quality in that patent. The 1.8/75 isn't short of very favorable reviews!
Artistico: Had Panasonic come out with this before the excellent and sharp-wide-open 45mm f/1.8, this would probably have sold a bit. Now more people will wait and see the test results before buying as this lens simply has to perform really well below 1.8 to be worth buying.
Unlike sentiments expressed in numerous other comments, I do like the name Nocticron. Summicron, Summilux and Noctilux probably all had some people doubting the naming choice when those came out.
I forsee myself framing, focusing and thinking before pressing the shutter : "Dammit! Why Nocticron?!?" :D