abolit: Hey, Fuji! Enough of F3.5 - F5.6 crap! Start making some good stuff! F2.8 all the way thru or , at least , F4 . Sick of it!
Reminds me of the old MiG fighters that were big jet engines with fins attached. I think this argument grows out of the evolution of cameras to lenses with sensors attached. Seems to me that there is an insurmountable restraint to how small you can make optics with a given speed. Until some breakthrough comes along, you can't make a 2.8 long telephoto that won't overwhelm a compact mirrorless like an X-T1. It's a state of mind: start thinking of holding up a lens rather than a camera to get the shot.
@Paul JM, I like your arguments, but you were wrong to go after forpetesake. He's on your side! The guy you originally were after is abolit.
Does anyone else see a thematic kinship between this and Avedon's In the American West?
By the way, the heyday of "freighthopping," traditionally called hoboing, was the Great Depression. There's an excellent book about it, Riding the Rails: Teenagers on the Move During the Great Depression, by Errol lincoln Uys.
This is the problem with editorial reviews. They are only critiques of the cameras out-of-the-box -- snapshots, so to speak. But to do like the car mags, and do long-term road tests would require DPR to buy and use over time at least the major cameras it reviews, and that's probably asking too much. Even after a top score, you still have to cross your fingers. One assumes finger-crossing isn't expected with the professional lines.
Typical editorial boilerplate. "What did I learn? Not much." And choose the one that suits you beat. Well, thank you for that.
rallyfan: I don't see the point in any sort of Nikon vs. Canon analyses at this market segment, and I mention it because so many comments are made about the 6D vs. the D600. My suppliers are generally fixed. It makes little sense now to switch a major provider. The questions then focus around what I can get, when, and for how much.
Of the "features" offered, WiFi is the most meaningful to me. My hope is the WiFi makes up for the lack of a second card slot by allowing images or videos to get OUT of the camera ASAP and on their way to someone that is willing to pay for them as directly and immediately as possible.
If I can get images out of my hands and sent to the recipient quickly, I can ask no more. The best workflow is no workflow. I'd rather shoot-send-repeat than shoot, go back to work, post process, introduce "artistry" (it's so cute to see the "artists" speak up, they're so quaint...), and then see who's buying.
A Canon shop is a Canon shop, generally; the issue is what's on offer.
Same here about WiFi. I love the idea. But I've seen angry user reports (on Amazon) that the D600 WiFi add-on (WU-1b) doesn't work. Maybe there's been an update. The 6D WiFi reviews read better. It comes down to the old question of how well the spec translates into real-world use.
For my money, the next worthwhile screen upgrade will be OLED. Perhaps ultimately 8K OLED, if i live long enough. I think that's what we should be working towards with the present technology.
itsastickup: Oh great. Now we'll all be able to to see their dreadful makeup.<br/>This HD business is not good for movies.
Maybe there needs to be a shift in the makeup paradigm. Or in the studio lighting that necessitates makeup. Or both. Good complexions will also become more important.
Joe Ogiba: I would rather pay $800 more for the FF Sony RX1, APS-C compacts are a dime a dozen but there are very few FF compacts under $3k.
You're hired, Gordon...as long as you don't "get too busy and forget." ;)
Follow the path that Google Glass is taking. Hero and other POV cams are just sideshows.
We know that 24/7 continuous, networked recordability of the individual life is the omega of photography and cinematography -- taking stills or videos of what we see, wherever we are, the moment we see it, stored and/or streamed to the network. The aim of cameras and sound has always been to live through each other's perceptions -- networking our eyes and ears.
Two hurdles to jump: merging the recording and networking device with the eye; imaging with the same quality as the eye or better. This is the future. Resistance is futile.
Donnie G: I am a photography enthusiast who enjoys taking pictures of people at fairs, festivals, and other tourist attractions. I shoot mostly outdoors using a run and gun style that has worked for me ever since my days as a wedding photographer. I have waited patiently for a replacement for my deceased original 5D body (destroyed in its prime by my then 6 year old niece, Brianna). For me, that replacement camera is the Canon 6D.
1). Perfectly compact one camera, one lens combo (24-105L) for what I do.2). Instant backup in the field via wi-fi without additional accessaries.3). Instant distribution of images in the field to social networks, etc. with a phone app.4). 100% compatibility with my 24-105L lens and other accessaries already owned.5). Controls are just like on my 60D, so there's nothing new to learn.6). 35mm full frame still camera with quality video capture available when needed.
The motto, K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid), just works for me.
K.I.S.S. works for me, too. I've been waiting. And waiting...and waiting for a full-frame x0D. OK, so call it a 6D. I'll pounce!
olyflyer: Nice display, but I will not be interested in Apple products until they do not implement SD card slots and standard interfaces. Proprietary interface is a dinosaur without user benefit, it is just a money maker for Apple and I am not interested in their products until they open up.
Can't believe all the 'likes' for this ridiculous post! The iPad DOES take SD (and USB) with a little adapter. 'Without user benefit'? It connects your SD card to the iPad!
This is a super-lame, super-trivial excuse. I could understand if they were saying 'sounds too slow' to me,' or 'display not good enough'(!), or 'too expensive' or 'can't expand RAM' or even 'just a toy'. But the fact you need an adapter for an SD card is a deal breaker???
'I agree! And Sam147 is a troll for saying otherwise' pretty much sums up the mentality here.
Baseman: Follow the leader leader leader, follow the leader.
Only reason Apple is doing so good is cause of it's marketing and ability to make you the consumer 'think' it's better than everything else. Funny there's still no memory card slot. Hmmmm.....better than the rest, I think not! It's only Apple's followers who will fight tooth and nail to proclaim it's the best. Still waiting for that memory card expansion. Oh wait, you'll never see it cause Apple can make you pay a lot more to get only a little. I like the ability to swap memory cards. Fill one, switch it for another. Need to transfer data across any platform, no problem with a memory card. But ooops, sorry Apple people, I'm talking another language to you. Just remember, Apple only wants your money by making you think you can't live without their product. Time to WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!
Hogwash. I don't 'think' it's better. It IS better, because Retina Display blows every other display out of the water, and it has 4G. Which means it can display photos and stream HD movies flawlessly.
So, you need an interface to connect USB or SD. Is that reason to go off on a tear? Calm down!
Amazing! Retina Display and 4G were what I said I was waiting for, and whadya know, they listened! 5MP stills and 1080p video are icing. I think this will be the tipping point for lots of other holdouts. The Apple online store was throttling traffic and hard to get into.
(unknown member): In case it hasn't already been posted here, I picked up this link in the Nikon 1 forum, and this article is an absolutely perfect review and indictment of this "DPR Review".
Indictment? A bit melodramatic, methinks. Nor is it an "absolutely perfect" (more drama) review of the DPR review. Brad Hill is a nature photographer and says his comments are purely from that point of view. DPR is not reviewing the V1 as a nature camera, but as a generic mirrorless camera, which is what it is and what Hill acknowledges.
It's not a perfect review because it bases its what you call "indictment" on something DPR repeatedly cautions: If you want a complete view of DPR's review, then you must read the complete review, not just the conclusion and score. (By the way, he admits his average score comes down exactly the same as DPR's.)
So, aside from quibbling about what an "average" photographer is, Hill's review of DPR's review is much ado about nothing.
I think Fuji is recognizing that the vast majority of photographers are moving away from print towards digital display. Limitation of the display medium is moving away from that of the printer to that of the LCD.
I'm typing this on my 55" screen. A 48 x 27 projected light image is far superior to my eyes than any reflective image. And think of the cost of such a print! I'm not arguing against the art and craft of printing, just that given the movement of the market to digital display, the marginal advantages of interchangeable lenses over compact zooms become moot.
Thus Fuji can -- and must -- make a compact like this, that can compete not only with other cameras but with smart phones with 8 mpx or more sensors. In fact, I'd say that most people are asking, Why do I want a camera when I have my smart phone -- just like many of us are asking ourselves, Why do I need a DSLR when I can get compacts with great IQ? And I don't think it's just about getting older.
Jon Stern: While credit should be given where it's due, Eric Fossum did NOT invent CMOS image sensors.
The invention of passive pixel sensors dates back to the late 1960s (it's generally credited to Peter Noble in 1968). As for commercialization, VVL had the first commercial CMOS sensor on the market around 1993 (if I recall correctly). This was a passive pixel device.
Eric's work at JPL was on active pixel sensors. This was a major improvement that allows the high-quality CMOS sensors we enjoy today. However, there was work in this area that predates Eric. Namely by Tsutomu Nakamura, at Olympus, and there's an even earlier claim by Hitachi.
Where Eric does have a good claim is to have invented the sensor that uses intra-pixel charge transfer and achieves real correlated double sampling, which is a big deal when it comes to noise reduction.
And let's not forget Carver Mead, who also had a little something to do with developing CMOS sensors.
And network streaming! Short of an input/output ocular implant, this is the omega of human development: everyone's experience networked with everyone else's. For better or worse we've already arrived at the terminal social order: a few doers and the rest watchers (or livestock aka consumers).
"A synthetic blur...to create a realistic simulation."
lbjack: This new Windows capability seems pretty limited compared to just downloading freeware Irfanview and associating your RAW files with it. It will instantly open any RAW file as a bitmap, which you can fool with -- Irfan has a nice selection of editing tools -- then save in lots of formats. If I want to do more, then I can open with PS.
Whatever. The point of this exercise is you get a preview. And what is a "fuke"?