Beat Traveller: This is a pretty awesome upgrade: you now get a camera with a bigger sensor than m4/3, with a longer zoom range than the standard kit zoom and a brighter lens than most, all in a body close to the size of the GM1. Really impressive.
Go to camerasize.com and see your "close to the size of GM1".Then report back and apologize or at least explain your definition of close. As an example, the moon is close to the size to Jupiter. This way we can get a full grasp of your lack of spatial relations.
D1N0: So now I am going to be a bitch and ask for a Pentax K-50 and K-3 Review because this is not a serious camera but a gadget vehicle.
Maybe they noticed a flaw and knew a firmware update was immanent so they waited - no seriously.
TakePictures: Looks great, as we have come to know from Fuji. For me, however, AF speed is going to be the decisive factor.
Just say something nice about Canon and he'll go away.I can't think of anything so you try.
There is a large variance between the colors in the comparison. Could you let us know which of the available cameras has the truest to life color in daylight and which in low light so we can use them as a reference or would that just start a new troll war?
SiliconVoid: I was not aware DPR, or the photographic community in general, had begun evaluating camera equipment on the basis of whether the user, or subjective audience, is instantly elevated to being a better photographer simply by holding/using or viewing images taken with said equipment... O.oAn image does not need to awe its audience in subject, composition, or creative lighting in order to represent a technical example of what the equipment is capable of providing. These are 'real-world' shots after all, that means just like the bulk of your 'real-world' shots sitting on 'your' computer there are any number of images that would not impress anyone photographically..Just as one can strip a nut with a $75 wrench, someone else can get the job done with a $5 pair of pliers - the tool is being evaluated here, not the wielder... Enough already.
You have to admit HIJ, Sili is a good writer and his/her diction is precise. I am sure Sili's teachers and parents would be proud + I totally agree. Unfortunately, I still want one.
Just out of curiosity, in your "I own it - I had it - I want it" there are folks who own a X-T1 (14 at this point) and some who "I had it" (18).Seeing as how this camera doesn't get released until early March, are these posts legit or just troll droppings?If so a troll filter may be necessary or this interactive spot will be suspect.
Underdog 3000: Thanks Barney,I was sipping water from a Ball jar as I perused your photos. I think many shots were able to give us an idea of what it's sensor can do in regard to it's color and depth capabilities (sorry colour) for those across the pond.I know this was just released so have no expectations on a review any time soon but was wondering your personal opinion regarding it's other capabilities. This one clicks off almost all of my boxes.
Thanks for responding Barney - slow to respond as it was bath/book/bed time for the kids. Here in Pensiltucky we have no legit photo stores to have hands on with the likes of Fugi much less Oly or Pentax. I would have to hike up to Manhattan to try them out so I have no experience with the X line.Your complaint is one of the few concerns I had with this camera. I wish it would have a n/s/e/w/OK layout (is there a name for this group) that is similar to the K-3. Each arrow should have it's own separate function and be more substantial especially at this price.
Thanks Barney,I was sipping water from a Ball jar as I perused your photos. I think many shots were able to give us an idea of what it's sensor can do in regard to it's color and depth capabilities (sorry colour) for those across the pond.I know this was just released so have no expectations on a review any time soon but was wondering your personal opinion regarding it's other capabilities. This one clicks off almost all of my boxes.
Waldman Jordaan: Very nice indeed. Not for me though - I refuse to purchase a camera without it having a built-in flash.
Also Fuji - when will we see 4:3 aspect ratio in the X-series ILC cameras? Surely it is only a firmware update away? A large percentage of people need 4:3 aspect, so why not?
Back in the day, 35mm film was considered to be poor in regards to IQ so the film was stretched to give more detail.All lenses (except with petal hoods attached) naturally cover a 1:1 orientation. Using a square sensor would eliminate the need to pivot to portrait for 2:3 or 3:4. Just crop PP as you see fit. Interesting step Waldman but why not go all out?
Revenant: Between this, the organic sensor, Panasonic's colour splitter, and the various CFA patterns and stacked sensors that Canon, Sony and others are experimenting with, I wonder which will actually make it into commercial production?
As much bashing as he/she/whatever does I'm not sure any actual photography has or ever been performed.The only thing yabokkie does is bring us all together in our mutual dislike of his posts.Thanks yabokkieBTW - I hope you at least get something from Canon for your drivel
forpetessake: It's been shown that Bayer sensor is optimal planar solution in respects to area/light and color information. Fuji is willing again to trade that for some questionable other advantages. So far it was always a failure, abandoned with the promise of the next 'better' design, it's not likely be any different this time.
Yes yabokkie. We should all buy Canons that way all of our reds are super RED and we can suffice with limited dynamic range. That way we won't need innovation and can all drink the kool-aid together. Bottoms up
The only issue I see is lack of in body flash. The rest is sweet. My wife (non-photo at all) thinks the wi-fi button is great.
Was debating EM1, a7R, K-3 and X-E2 but now reconfiguring.
I hope it can focus down to at least -2ev.
NancyP: technically and aesthetically wonderful photos. It is good that the general public gets to see the beauty and utility (pollen-covered bee in #1) of insects too often seen as hostile.
Nancy,Do you live in the western side of the US? Just wondering because the "killer" strain hasn't arrive on the east coast yet. It's the yellow jackets that are aggressive here.
Too bad. I was hoping the 24 would out perform the 36 due to excessive photo size - cost, AA filter, phase detect etc.Also was hoping the kit lens wouldn't be crap as the 24-70 is salty.
On a side note, am I the only one who thinks the 35mm lens looks ridiculous?
Joel Benford: 2 things I often see:
1. "Use a prime and just take a few steps"
In my world that means "a few steps forward into car traffic" or "a few steps back through a plate glass window". For street/indoor photography, a standard zoom is a blessing.
2. "Go through your EXIF data and see what you use most, so you can buy a prime".
I did. 35 and 50mm equiv were neck and neck, with 43mm (true standard) maybe 15% higher because that's how I set my lens between shots. I have shots of people sat around a table that need around 28-30mm.
So, yay for standard zooms instead of primes.
Personally I'd want it to go wider, for when I shoot "the room" rather than "people in the room". And I'd want brighter, because I live in the dark. I'd live with the weight to get those options.
But for outdoor SP guys, this could be really nice -- set it to a standard length between shots to be ready for grabs, zoom to frame when you have the time, choose a place to stand if you have the freedom.
The lens you seek then is called the Sigma 18-35.Cost about the same, is faster and probably has better optics.The one down side is it's size / weight.This one from Ricoh/Pentax is pretty though.
Donnie G: Innovation or desperation? Sony would like to turn a profit within their camera division. In order to do that they need strong sales at the mid to high end portion of the market, but, so far, nothing they've tried has worked. Can the A7 and A7R get the job done? While neither of these new Sony cameras would get me to switch from my current system, they are still technologically interesting since they seem to offer practically everything that's on the mirrorless ILC enthusiast's wish list, and at a reasonable price too. Based on that, these cameras should be a huge sales success for Sony that would finally allow them to break into the mid to high end of the market in a big way for the first time. Now lets see how many mirrorless ILC enthusiasts actually vote for these new cameras with their wallets. Good luck Sony!
Lets not get too cocky Donnie. If IQ and performance is there, then the mirror flap is over. It's a brave new world, time to let go of the rotary phone.
Pierre Racine: I don't the hell know how is this an attractive proposition! Ff? Who cares when 99% of photos are published on the web/computer sreens! The lenses are too big/expensive AND not fast enough to justify this compared to E-M1. Camera with lenses are NOT light weight and are comparable to FF gear. And we know AF will not shine... Camera toy for pixel peepers.
Not fast enough? You would need a metabones adaptor on a m4/3 2.8 to = 5.6 on ffSensor size does matter
comet suisei: I would like to have this body with the Fujifilm X Sensor and either Zuiko or Fujinon lens, it would be the best package out there
I have to agree with Naveed, WTF?You must need glasses or an upgrade on what you have. The IQ nearly equals the mk III that I use as a standard for IQ.Granted, I base this on the vaunted dpr comparison.I am a Pentax fan but must admit these initial results are extremely impressive for such a small sensor.
I also am confused to the addition of the OM-D and G6. Both excellent cameras in their own regard I am sure.Both are priced at the original manufacturers suggested retail price.Where is the deal.Sometime I think DPR puts out stuff like this just to see if we are following along.
BJL: ILC = interchangeable lena cameras which obviously covers DSLRs too, so it isa poor replacement for CSC or MILC or my favorite, EVIL. With Olympus, Panasonic amd Sony all at times using "Compact System Camera" when referring to their MFT or NEX products, I do not think that DPReview alone has the power to "forcibly retire" that naming.
I thought ILC meant interchangeable lens compact.Thanks for the info.