Derick59: What a load of rubbish. Use what's available at your camera store that will suit your pocket and gear.
All these heads are designed to do the same thing. a milli-micron this way or that won't change your photo.
Stop reading. Go out and take photos.
Yeah, Iphone and 1Dx doesn't make any different either, both can take some picture.
UnChatNoir: I didn't had my hands on an A7 or A7r, but I can imagine DPReview tells a few things that the fan crowd doesn't necessarily likes. The same happened for a long time with the Fuji X-series. Owning both a pro-DSLR and a X-Pro1, I can say, well, I like the MLIC lightweight and even IQ, but regarding reliability, speed and flexibility, nothing still beats a pro-line DSLR. However, having spend the money to MLIC, quite some people have problems to admit this, even more: they start believing the opposite. A DSLR is crap, outdated, for those 'not seeing the light'. Well, I'm one of those that returned from a MLIC to a full blown DSLR. And I must admit, everything falls back into its place. 55 years of Lens experience, 10 years of new models & firmware development have ironed out all the possible glitches while with a MLIC, every mission is a new challenge. And from what I read about the A7 and A7r, it's pretty much the same as with all the other MLIC: first gen stuff for the adventurers.
So true "@UnchatNoir", me too a long time owner of 1DS and D3 series pro camera and owner of Sony A7 and GF and "soon to be" A7R owner, I for one not going to replace any of my pro DSLR with any of the new mirrorlss as yet no matter what sensor they put in there, just can't stand the form factor and ergonomics of these little cameras as a everyday tools, for the case of D800E and A7R, I will definitely keep on using the D800E for any serious work over the a7R, actually I even have to put a vertical grip to my D800E to make it more comfortable to use it everyday, talking about size and weight, I wish they put that same sensor in the D4 body and I will be the first one to pre-order it. with that being said, the A7R will just be nice addition to what I have but definitely not replacement for my DSLRs.
One real benefit I saw in the a7R though, I can now use my TSE-17 and TSE 24 on a D800E quality sensor, that's something I can't do currently with my SLRs.
digimaan1: Same old problem with Sony, they can't seem to get the idea into their heads that whatever size the sensor is too many pixels = too much noise.12mp is more than enough. No need then for aggressive noise reduction and jpeg artefacts.My "old" Olympus EPL-1 doesn't suffer from this as much, it takes the sharpest pictures I've taken with anything lately, and no way could I ever afford the prices of these cameras that are supposed to be so much better.Phil
Yeah, for some 12MP may be even "too much" and for some 36MP is not enough, being a landscape shooter and current D800E owner and many many Canon DSLR owner including 1DS2 and 1DS3 currently, I for one will definitely not care for anything that offers less resolution and DR at base ISO than what I already have. I don't shoot any high ISO so I personally careless if my landscape camera even have ISO 800 or 1600 setting at all. and when I actually need the high ISO capabilities, there is a D4 and 1Dx out there.
dr.noise: wowsuch cameravery expandamaze
Cal22: You can't ignore the disadvantages this adapter comes along with (more CA, lower contrast, corner softening, poor AF, more weight and bulkiness of FF lens/adapter). That's why it won't be a tool for any photographer in the mirrorless sector. But for some the adapter might prove useful, especially if it comes to wide angle or high aperture FF lenses you possess anyway.
Question: What about the adapter combined with a wide angle shift lens? Will shiftening be increasing optical flaws?
It may not be a big deal for the Mirrorless only shooters, who may most likely don't care for the big SLR lenses anyway, but it definitely is a very nice product for the Canon FF owners that also own a NEX system, like myself, I am shooting Canon and Nikon for the last 20 years and also own a NEX7, already own the previous generation Metabones auto focus EF to NEX adapter and their Nikon F to E adapter for my Nikon AIS and D lesnes, works great for me, (other than the 1.5X crop facor limitation), being able to mount all my Zeiss ZE/ZF2, Nikon, Canon EF lenses to the NEX is just so cool, even I am willing to spend the money on a new set of E-mount lenses, there is no TSE 17, TSE 24, 851.2, 200F2 and 300 2.8L available for the NEX system today, and with the little adapter, all my lenses are useable on any NEX.
Nathaniel George Weir: But hey you've got to admit that the most exciting thing here is the new lens caps ;)
Me too, thanks Canon for saving me $20 every time I purchase a lens, I guess I can use those $20 saving for a new $1500 F4 zoom, LOL.
Daniel Yee: 21 f/2.8, 28 f/2.8, 35 f/1.4, 50 f/1.4, 85 f/1.4... this is seriously a sweet lens lineup.
Good to know that Fuji "upgraded" their lens roadmap for the 23mm from f/2 to f/1.4. A brighter 35mm for X-Pro1.
Yeah, as soon as they complete this lineup, it's hard for me not to get this whole system, the only reason I don't have it yet is because the lack of WA 21mm and 35mm equivalent lens at the time they introduced the X Pro 1. that's the most used FL I do on my FF DSLR systems, now time for me to save up for a new system.
Joe M Amadas: who in his right mind would use the Kodak name to offer a new camera?The Kodak name stands for cheap crap since a long time now.
may be for those don't want to sell whole a lot of cameras, hahaha, I was wondering what take them so long to find out it's good idea not to continue on making camera nobody wants.
tkbslc: I don't get why one would use this. What Canon EF lenses make sense to attach to a NEX? And there are decent used Canon bodies available for the price of this adapter.
ALL EF mount Zeiss and L primes I current have. few special one came to my mind: TSE 17, TSE 14, 85 1.2L, may be fun to use the 400 F2.8 there too.
jh2bh: Why would anyone pay that much for an adapter that doesn't do Auto Focus?
Because some people (myself included) using all those ZE and ZF mount Zeiss/Voigtlander lenses on Canon bodies are all manual focus lenses anyway and we don't have problem doing manual focus. especially for our landscape work, I manual focus my AF lenses anyway, so this adapter just adds the additional capability for multi-platform users to share our lenses easier.
Gavril Margittai: Hate to be a killjoy, but if anyone believes that possessing these two lenses will make them a better photographer he is wrong. Having these two lenses will not improve picture quality.
If serious about photography and with available money to spend I would rather buy studio lights if one works on portraits, or a good sturdy tripod if nature & landscape are your thing. Both these two will make much more impact. Oh and I almost forgot. Spend on Photography and Photoshop courses.
What makes you think those buying these two lenses doesn't already have and using a good tripod or own some studio lighting? so we should all go out to find some crappy lens then we can become better photographer?
Ztaz: Thats right price !!! If price will be like for Canon 17-40/4, so whos gona buy this Tokina?)))))
If the price is like the 17-40L and corner performance is not, sign me up for one. I don't think they can make a lens has worse corner sharpness than the 17-40L.