REDred Photo: I was at a show this weekend and spent some time chatting with the Sony reps. I mentioned that, in my opinion, Minolta's Maxxum 7D was the finest ergonomic design of any DSLR ever made. It was truly a masterpiece of control. Nearly every control you'd ever need to change for different situations was available somewhere on the outside of the body. Menus were only for custom functions, quality settings, jpg options, etc.
Then Sony bought Minolta and moved away from the finest camera design paradigm ever made. The head rep responded with: "Sony needed to leave the past behind and move into the future."
Why does moving into the future have to mean abandoning the tactile controls which have evolved over a century of logical evolution? Do they really believe cameras would never have had dials and buttons if touch screens had existed back then?
Sometimes things are done the old way not because it's how things have always been done. Sometimes it just happens to be the best way to do it.
That Maxxum 7D is immense and needs something like the a99 in order to fit all those buttons.
lazy lightning: Yes, every six months we will come out with a new camera with a different lens mount and one or two primes with the promise of more to come!
You are very welcome over in the CaNikon area. They like for everything to stay exactly the way it is.
I hope that part of that $5000 includes an amazing lens instead of the kit 18-55 from Sony
Sdaniella: Finally a flexible screen that has Face-FORWARD utility topside and works while on a tripod... (rather than bottom side which doesn't work with a tripod)
now all they need to do is offer a flexible vari-angle swivel screen, VASS, like Canon PowerShots... and Sony CyberShot DSC-R1
given the NEX is a very small-form factor... such a VASS would make more sense on larger alpha-SLT models instead (which all currently STILL lack full flexibility, just up/down tilt only or flexible, but stuck 'bottom-side' (SLT-A65)).
however, given NEX are close to most digicams in size... a VASS isn't that unreasonalbe (PowerShot G series... Samsung TL500 (EX1) to mention a couple)
Implementing the screen the way you are saying isn't any better than what they have now. The way you are proposing doesn't improve on the top down shooting experience and I think detracts from it and I don't think it helps with the portrait node all that much. I think it makes holding the camera more awkward. The way they have it is good, some more engineering trickery is needed to make it truly usable in portrait mode.
Nate21: the viewfinder is amazing but do to the lack of good primes or vast selection of lens i will stick with the micro 4/3rds. But still congrats on the well reviewed camera and ratings.
I had a look at the NX200 and there is something about them that just offends me. Ergonomically I don't think they are even there yet compared to the Nex. They do have great little lenses though but then this and the 5n are a camera you can hold onto as the system matures, it's not like you are going to go out and buy the next iteration of this next year are you?
JackM: I think I'll stick with my 7D for real AF and 8fps at full res. I think I'll stick with my 5DII for the low light and shooting with primes. And both for the selection of lenses. If I want something smaller, I'll get a camera that fits in my pocket.
I had the Nex-5 in Japan in March, a wrist strap and my jacket pocket was all that was needed. I had a carry bag for it for when we were moving around but for city exploring carrying it in hand or the jacket pocket was all that was needed and this was with the 18-55 attached. It's pocketable and I made the conscious decision to stay away from the dSLR's and the gear and weight of those things. For travelling this is the system I want and for street shooting with manual lens, this thing is perfect. Party shots I'll slap on the 16mm and snap away. The system is versatile enough. Just have to use the imagination
Kenneth Margulies: Bravo!!! A home run for Sony. Waiting for Amazon to email me that the Nex 7 is available for sale. Love or hate Sony and their cameras, Sony is to be commended for raising the bar. Sony, and indeed all camera manufacturers, need to follow Apple's lead and simplify the user interface. Too many cameras are still working off 35 mm SLR film camera design, though the NEX 7 breaks new ground and Sony deserves kudos for the dial system developed for the camera. Perhaps cameras should be designed more like an iPhone or iPad's controls...perhaps voice control as the iPhone is controlled by the Siri voice interaction??? Who knows how we will be recording images in 20 years???
I don't think I want to be talking to my camera when I take a picture. And, I think the camera on the iPhone is an over simplification. There is pretty much the shutter button, the flash, grid line and camera switch. These cameras are meant to be more than a point an shoot , I think intuitiveness is what we are looking for here or just plain old customisability beyond what has already been given. That video recording button is going to annoy me to no end.
Marshal: I just bought the new Samsung Galaxy S II, which I'm going to keep, but I will give lots of credit where it's due and say that the iPhone 4S has great specs, both on the photo & video end and even more so, Siri, the virtual assistant who can do Voice to Text messaging and also does searches for you. That is really cool to me.
If I didn't already have a new phone, I'd consider holding out just another few weeks for the iP4S.
wow you don't seem to know about the capabilities of your phone if you think Siri is all that great. Voice search has been around on Android since before the 3Gs my little brother often chats to me on gtalk with the phone dictating for him and I get my phone to dial numbers and navigate me in the car all the time. The photo functions of the iPhone look to be pretty good but the Samsungs have been making great camera phones for a good length of time already.
win39: I was on a tour to Japan a couple of years ago. I saw very few Japanese with cameras at the tourist spots. Lots of young people with cell phones.which stunned me at the time. Now with the cell phone revolution here I understand. The dumbing down of the mirrorless cameras is to be expected. It is an attempt to lure them away from their cell phones. By compariosn, they do not sell nearly as well here. The problem is that the camera makers pay too much attention, in my opinion, to what sells in Japan.
Go again, these cameras are popping up everywhere. Just yesterday here in Brisbane at lunch I've seen an Olympus and Panasonic mirrorless around peoples necks, obviously for the majority of people it is more convenient to carry your mobile phone around and use the camera from that. At Osaka Aquarium in March it was me and an older man that I immediately recognised as having a Nex and some other people also had their slr's but it was difficult to see what they were. It is an emerging market and it's just going to get bigger.
Jogger: most people i know looking to upgrade from their compacts are looking for slrs. thy dont want the slr image quality in a compact by itself. they want the slr experience (and image quality of course).
Some certainly. I'm of the other school, I travel and I want to be able to take great photos (in my opinion) and not feel like I need a massage at the end of the day from carrying a dslr and its camera bag. I was in Japan and had my 2 week old Nex-5 and loved it. My girlfriend loves the camera as well coming from a compact it was easy to tell her to point it and shoot. I got the slr type quality without the slr experience of size.
Grant: What started as a pocket-able camera now needs a rolling case. Combine that with the price and fiddly IU and I'll keep my FF DSLR.
Grant are you saying your FF camera fits in your pocket?I had the Nex-5 w/ the attached 18-55 in various jackets of mine travelling around Japan. I didn't even bother with a neck strap, it's perfect for a wrist strap. This camera even if it is larger than the Nex-5 is still going to be smaller than my friends D7000 or my other friends 550D or my GF's 5DmkII! I'll take this Nex-7 and a jacket pocket of lenses any day!
sumit kishore: Anybody else think the NEX7 is uglier than the NEX5? - or other mirrorless?
I think it has gone a different style to the other Nex cameras, it seems to be a great mix of Rangefinder and Compact camera styles. You couldn't actually complain too much about how it looks strange having a large lens on a small body, personally I think they look awesome either way